Anonymous
Post 05/16/2021 09:27     Subject: Re:New club forming! Dmv United in herndon/reston
I heard communication hasn't been there, rumors that they can't find a league, or ODSL accepted them, etc. But like the previous poster said, it's hard to say if their own teams are imploding from within and players jumping ship. Nobody's talking anything concrete.
Anonymous
Post 05/14/2021 14:16     Subject: New club forming! Dmv United in herndon/reston
Anonymous wrote:How are the team formations going? Any word on how this club is doing


Our first tryout day was rained out and we attended the second. There wasn't a parent meeting the day of the tryouts and haven't received any further communications. We were coming from outside/had no previous relationship with the coaches/teams. We had other active offers on the table, so went with the another club.
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2021 16:37     Subject: New club forming! Dmv United in herndon/reston
How are the team formations going? Any word on how this club is doing
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2021 14:47     Subject: Re:New club forming! Dmv United in herndon/reston
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:On the boys’ side, coaches often rostered too many players who couldn’t pay even after the scholarship money and team fundraising (as in couldn’t pay anything) and then coaches would agree to take a pay cut when the team couldn’t come up with the money.


This was the point. I heard this is a source of tension as some have speculated that this move is to appropriate (and raise) girl's teams fees to fund the boy's "scholarships" and, thus, relieve the burden from boy's coaches and equalize pay. Let's face facts, the interest audience and demographic between boy's and girl's soccer is different. One glimpse of both gender's World Cup results reveal that.


One look at the World Cup gives you insight into HYS gender demographics?
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2021 14:25     Subject: Re:New club forming! Dmv United in herndon/reston
Anonymous wrote:On the boys’ side, coaches often rostered too many players who couldn’t pay even after the scholarship money and team fundraising (as in couldn’t pay anything) and then coaches would agree to take a pay cut when the team couldn’t come up with the money.


This was the point. I heard this is a source of tension as some have speculated that this move is to appropriate (and raise) girl's teams fees to fund the boy's "scholarships" and, thus, relieve the burden from boy's coaches and equalize pay. Let's face facts, the interest audience and demographic between boy's and girl's soccer is different. One glimpse of both gender's World Cup results reveal that.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2021 16:55     Subject: Re:New club forming! Dmv United in herndon/reston
Anonymous wrote:what about the "scholarships" HYS long offered/coerce TOH and locals boys? I heard this was a source of contention as the boy's coaches would take less $ to partially finance than girl's (including TF). On top of this, girl's parents were upset that their fees were higher to partially fund the "scholarships".


Zero truth to this. Players (up to 5 per team) on boys’ and girls’ side could get a scholarship as long as the team did concessions in one of the two Herndon tournaments. It wasn’t much. About $200-300 in fall and about same in spring. It had nothing to do with coaching fees.

Total Futbol on the girls’ side ran a fundraiser among TF teams and gave additional scholarship money to TF players.

On the boys’ side, coaches often rostered too many players who couldn’t pay even after the scholarship money and team fundraising (as in couldn’t pay anything) and then coaches would agree to take a pay cut when the team couldn’t come up with the money.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2021 11:32     Subject: Re:New club forming! Dmv United in herndon/reston
what about the "scholarships" HYS long offered/coerce TOH and locals boys? I heard this was a source of contention as the boy's coaches would take less $ to partially finance than girl's (including TF). On top of this, girl's parents were upset that their fees were higher to partially fund the "scholarships".
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2021 20:23     Subject: New club forming! Dmv United in herndon/reston
Seems like the right thing to do is build your own field complex and rent it out
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2021 15:32     Subject: New club forming! Dmv United in herndon/reston
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Fairfax County determines who gets field space and when.


that might be the situation at Arrow...the "non-profit" status might give HYS the drop on TF since it's arbitrated by a public entity.


The new DMV FC club is a non-profit 501c(3), same as HYS. No difference with HYS. Hutch and Arrowbrook will come down to player numbers. Private schools and adult leagues also get Arrowbrook; HYS only had Arrowbrook 3 days a week in the fall. The other 2 days went to other clubs/entities.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2021 15:07     Subject: New club forming! Dmv United in herndon/reston
Anonymous wrote:Fairfax County determines who gets field space and when.


that might be the situation at Arrow...the "non-profit" status might give HYS the drop on TF since it's arbitrated by a public entity.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2021 15:01     Subject: New club forming! Dmv United in herndon/reston
Anonymous wrote:HYS only paid (in part) for Bready. No dibs on Arrowbrook, Hutchison, etc. Anything beyond Bready depends on number of players in the club. Fairfax County determines who gets field space and when.


Interesting. I wonder what the situation is at Arrow, it sounded as though HYS had some sort of leverage. I know HYS pitched in at HHS with the original turfing of stadio and aux. Not sure about the recent resurfacing. I heard Langley HS booster/parents or whatever turned down contributions from McLean or GF or whomever cuz they didn't want to be beholden to clubs trampling the field to death, ala Hutch. Although I think mostly locals damaged that to dust.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2021 11:25     Subject: New club forming! Dmv United in herndon/reston
Anonymous wrote:I believe the local clubs pitched in on turf installation so they have first/exclusive rights? Since they are already tripling up in cramped fairfax co... I suppose TF has to try lease turf from some private entity or a high school where the field wasn't partially funded by a club. If I were a parent in this mess, that's my concern. Yeah, we stick with this DMV or TF, but then find out the practices are at Long Park or something.

i don't know about Arrowbrook, FFx Co. zoning extorted that homes developer into building Arrowbrook but I'm not sure if HYS partially paid for turfing. If I were TF, I'd look at Dominion and Park View HS. I don't think major clubs are operating in eastern Loudoun and if they can share with the high school teams.

Yes, we'll go with TF, then find out the practivces are at the complex in Haymarket or whatever.


HYS only paid (in part) for Bready. No dibs on Arrowbrook, Hutchison, etc. Anything beyond Bready depends on number of players in the club. Fairfax County determines who gets field space and when.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2021 09:33     Subject: New club forming! Dmv United in herndon/reston
I believe the local clubs pitched in on turf installation so they have first/exclusive rights? Since they are already tripling up in cramped fairfax co... I suppose TF has to try lease turf from some private entity or a high school where the field wasn't partially funded by a club. If I were a parent in this mess, that's my concern. Yeah, we stick with this DMV or TF, but then find out the practices are at Long Park or something.

i don't know about Arrowbrook, FFx Co. zoning extorted that homes developer into building Arrowbrook but I'm not sure if HYS partially paid for turfing. If I were TF, I'd look at Dominion and Park View HS. I don't think major clubs are operating in eastern Loudoun and if they can share with the high school teams.

Yes, we'll go with TF, then find out the practivces are at the complex in Haymarket or whatever.
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2021 14:55     Subject: New club forming! Dmv United in herndon/reston
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:What is NCSL?


The league they planned on playing in. Now they don't have a league



That sounds pretty ridiculous to be a club with top performing teams and they wouldn’t have a league, I seriously would doubt NCSL declining the offer to have top teams in their league of someone with the recognition that NM brings to the league. On the flip side, that probably isn’t their first choice anyway.


It is ridiculous and also untrue. This is just another rumor that the Herndon TD started. He has always been jealous of NM.


Hah. While I have no knowledge of this particular situation, this would be the classic oft-repeated reason for a youth soccer club imploding - petty jealousy. Oh - what hope is there for us?


What reason does Herndon need? TF might get a few kids the real joke will be when TF can't even field a team let alone a boys and girls club. Just becausw you have a few kids switching doesnt mean you can start a club. Herndon will get the last laugh


Pretty sad when too many people are focusing on the “Herndon/club getting the last laugh”. It is just more of an example that they do not have players or families in mind... that sounds exactly like the petty behavior that created this problem in the first place. Players deserve better than this and youth soccer needs to improve and remember who the focus “SHOULD” be.


Exactly. And my guess is no-one gets the last laugh. Everyone is going to wish they hadn't gone down this road. Everyone.
Anonymous
Post 05/01/2021 14:37     Subject: New club forming! Dmv United in herndon/reston
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is NCSL?


The league they planned on playing in. Now they don't have a league



That sounds pretty ridiculous to be a club with top performing teams and they wouldn’t have a league, I seriously would doubt NCSL declining the offer to have top teams in their league of someone with the recognition that NM brings to the league. On the flip side, that probably isn’t their first choice anyway.


It is ridiculous and also untrue. This is just another rumor that the Herndon TD started. He has always been jealous of NM.


Hah. While I have no knowledge of this particular situation, this would be the classic oft-repeated reason for a youth soccer club imploding - petty jealousy. Oh - what hope is there for us?


What reason does Herndon need? TF might get a few kids the real joke will be when TF can't even field a team let alone a boys and girls club. Just becausw you have a few kids switching doesnt mean you can start a club. Herndon will get the last laugh


Pretty sad when too many people are focusing on the “Herndon/club getting the last laugh”. It is just more of an example that they do not have players or families in mind... that sounds exactly like the petty behavior that created this problem in the first place. Players deserve better than this and youth soccer needs to improve and remember who the focus “SHOULD” be.