Anonymous
04/08/2021 21:38
Subject: UVA Microaggression case
This is very troubling.
Anonymous
04/08/2021 21:26
Subject: Re:UVA Microaggression case
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We’re in a strange time now. We’re trying to navigate a brave new world of racial interaction and equality. There are big considerations of bad publicity , especially for colleges trying to placate an increasingly vocal social justice movement concerned student body, who may view offensive language as physically harmful. These institutions have to balance free speech concerns and all sort of potential racial minefields they may unintentionally fall into by not addressing things the right way. It’s pretty crazy actually. Also this trickles down to the average person now who has to walk on eggshells or mind any criticism or question they may have for fear of being branded discriminatory or racist. What if constructive critiisicm is deemed racist? Honestly not sure how things aren’t just going to end up in gridlock. If you can’t question the foundations of a theory, in good faith, without malice, without fear of retribution, what happens? I guess timeg grinds on and society just uses those unquestionable theories as bedrock.
+1 I just played the recording of the seminar with the student's questions for my teenaged boys. Then I told them what wound up happening based upon the exchange. Their response was: "Don't worry Mom. We won't ever ask any questions." Is that the message we want to send when the goal of the movement is to educate and promote understanding? The message my kids are taking away is that it better not to speak to anyone than to have good-faith interactions that carry a risk of offending someone.
How has the left not learned that when you behave the way UVA is, you wind up with Donald Trump as president. Silencing every opinion that doesn't align with the left narrative is only fanning the flames. The left thinks opinions such as his are few--but as we learned in 2016, the outrage can lead to horribl consequnces.
Oh please. People trying to get others to be MORE sensitive are it responsible for the election of a racist ignoramus buffoon with zero moral compass. No. Just no.
Anonymous
04/08/2021 21:13
Subject: UVA Microaggression case
At Albion University in Minnesota an African-American male student was caught on video and has confessed to writing hateful messages on dormitory walls.
The students still staged a walkout in protest of racism.
Oh and remember the rape case at UVA in 2014?
There are hundreds of documented fake hate crimes. Yes, hate crimes are real, but they are so few and far between that people literally have created a category of crime, microaggressions, just in case there's not real hate.
The students still staged a walkout in protest of racism.
Oh and remember the rape case at UVA in 2014?
There are hundreds of documented fake hate crimes. Yes, hate crimes are real, but they are so few and far between that people literally have created a category of crime, microaggressions, just in case there's not real hate.
Anonymous
04/08/2021 21:13
Subject: Re:UVA Microaggression case
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Very Soviet Union. What colleges /universities are there left for those of us not seeking this for our kids? Overseas? Looking down the line here...
How is this “very Soviet Union?” Was there borscht? You make no sense.
S/he makes plenty of sense, and you are an idiot. Can the desire for comedy and pick up a history book.
Anonymous
04/08/2021 21:09
Subject: Re:UVA Microaggression case
Anonymous wrote:Very Soviet Union. What colleges /universities are there left for those of us not seeking this for our kids? Overseas? Looking down the line here...
How is this “very Soviet Union?” Was there borscht? You make no sense.
Anonymous
04/08/2021 20:35
Subject: Re:UVA Microaggression case
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We’re in a strange time now. We’re trying to navigate a brave new world of racial interaction and equality. There are big considerations of bad publicity , especially for colleges trying to placate an increasingly vocal social justice movement concerned student body, who may view offensive language as physically harmful. These institutions have to balance free speech concerns and all sort of potential racial minefields they may unintentionally fall into by not addressing things the right way. It’s pretty crazy actually. Also this trickles down to the average person now who has to walk on eggshells or mind any criticism or question they may have for fear of being branded discriminatory or racist. What if constructive critiisicm is deemed racist? Honestly not sure how things aren’t just going to end up in gridlock. If you can’t question the foundations of a theory, in good faith, without malice, without fear of retribution, what happens? I guess timeg grinds on and society just uses those unquestionable theories as bedrock.
+1 I just played the recording of the seminar with the student's questions for my teenaged boys. Then I told them what wound up happening based upon the exchange. Their response was: "Don't worry Mom. We won't ever ask any questions." Is that the message we want to send when the goal of the movement is to educate and promote understanding? The message my kids are taking away is that it better not to speak to anyone than to have good-faith interactions that carry a risk of offending someone.
How has the left not learned that when you behave the way UVA is, you wind up with Donald Trump as president. Silencing every opinion that doesn't align with the left narrative is only fanning the flames. The left thinks opinions such as his are few--but as we learned in 2016, the outrage can lead to horribl consequnces.
Haha. Blame it on the libs.
Anonymous
04/08/2021 15:10
Subject: Re:UVA Microaggression case
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We’re in a strange time now. We’re trying to navigate a brave new world of racial interaction and equality. There are big considerations of bad publicity , especially for colleges trying to placate an increasingly vocal social justice movement concerned student body, who may view offensive language as physically harmful. These institutions have to balance free speech concerns and all sort of potential racial minefields they may unintentionally fall into by not addressing things the right way. It’s pretty crazy actually. Also this trickles down to the average person now who has to walk on eggshells or mind any criticism or question they may have for fear of being branded discriminatory or racist. What if constructive critiisicm is deemed racist? Honestly not sure how things aren’t just going to end up in gridlock. If you can’t question the foundations of a theory, in good faith, without malice, without fear of retribution, what happens? I guess timeg grinds on and society just uses those unquestionable theories as bedrock.
+1 I just played the recording of the seminar with the student's questions for my teenaged boys. Then I told them what wound up happening based upon the exchange. Their response was: "Don't worry Mom. We won't ever ask any questions." Is that the message we want to send when the goal of the movement is to educate and promote understanding? The message my kids are taking away is that it better not to speak to anyone than to have good-faith interactions that carry a risk of offending someone.
How has the left not learned that when you behave the way UVA is, you wind up with Donald Trump as president. Silencing every opinion that doesn't align with the left narrative is only fanning the flames. The left thinks opinions such as his are few--but as we learned in 2016, the outrage can lead to horribl consequnces.
people have learned to shut up and nod and then vote what they really think
Anonymous
04/08/2021 15:07
Subject: Re:UVA Microaggression case
Very Soviet Union. What colleges /universities are there left for those of us not seeking this for our kids? Overseas? Looking down the line here...
Anonymous
04/08/2021 15:03
Subject: UVA Microaggression case
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have links to the Reddit discussions mentioned in this thread?
There are a few. Google uva microaggression case Reddit. Here is on that link to (some deleted) 4chan threads.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UVA/comments/ab1dy7/university_of_virginia_med_student_receives_1year/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Oh well if the 4chan trolls are all up in this it must be a scandal. /s
So, if you actually read the thread, it appears the plaintiff was posting on 4chan. There were multiple threads, some deleted, which included screenshots from the hearing and internal communications, and the context of the posts appear to be supportive of the plaintiff and out details about those involved in the matter.
Anonymous
04/08/2021 14:00
Subject: Re:UVA Microaggression case
Anonymous wrote:We’re in a strange time now. We’re trying to navigate a brave new world of racial interaction and equality. There are big considerations of bad publicity , especially for colleges trying to placate an increasingly vocal social justice movement concerned student body, who may view offensive language as physically harmful. These institutions have to balance free speech concerns and all sort of potential racial minefields they may unintentionally fall into by not addressing things the right way. It’s pretty crazy actually. Also this trickles down to the average person now who has to walk on eggshells or mind any criticism or question they may have for fear of being branded discriminatory or racist. What if constructive critiisicm is deemed racist? Honestly not sure how things aren’t just going to end up in gridlock. If you can’t question the foundations of a theory, in good faith, without malice, without fear of retribution, what happens? I guess timeg grinds on and society just uses those unquestionable theories as bedrock.
+1 I just played the recording of the seminar with the student's questions for my teenaged boys. Then I told them what wound up happening based upon the exchange. Their response was: "Don't worry Mom. We won't ever ask any questions." Is that the message we want to send when the goal of the movement is to educate and promote understanding? The message my kids are taking away is that it better not to speak to anyone than to have good-faith interactions that carry a risk of offending someone.
How has the left not learned that when you behave the way UVA is, you wind up with Donald Trump as president. Silencing every opinion that doesn't align with the left narrative is only fanning the flames. The left thinks opinions such as his are few--but as we learned in 2016, the outrage can lead to horribl consequnces.
Anonymous
04/08/2021 13:43
Subject: Re:UVA Microaggression case
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It sounds bad but I suspect there might be more to the story.
OP’s story comes from Reason magazine, a Libertarian foundation so f course it’s telling only one side if the story!
But the whole point is many of the facts in the case are not disputed. We have transcripts and audio recordings. So we don’t have to take anyone’s word that the accusations are vague, we can literally hear the expulsion panel make said vague accusations.
Anonymous
04/08/2021 13:12
Subject: Re:UVA Microaggression case
We’re in a strange time now. We’re trying to navigate a brave new world of racial interaction and equality. There are big considerations of bad publicity , especially for colleges trying to placate an increasingly vocal social justice movement concerned student body, who may view offensive language as physically harmful. These institutions have to balance free speech concerns and all sort of potential racial minefields they may unintentionally fall into by not addressing things the right way. It’s pretty crazy actually. Also this trickles down to the average person now who has to walk on eggshells or mind any criticism or question they may have for fear of being branded discriminatory or racist. What if constructive critiisicm is deemed racist? Honestly not sure how things aren’t just going to end up in gridlock. If you can’t question the foundations of a theory, in good faith, without malice, without fear of retribution, what happens? I guess timeg grinds on and society just uses those unquestionable theories as bedrock.
+1 I just played the recording of the seminar with the student's questions for my teenaged boys. Then I told them what wound up happening based upon the exchange. Their response was: "Don't worry Mom. We won't ever ask any questions." Is that the message we want to send when the goal of the movement is to educate and promote understanding? The message my kids are taking away is that it better not to speak to anyone than to have good-faith interactions that carry a risk of offending someone.
Anonymous
04/08/2021 13:12
Subject: UVA Microaggression case
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Rather than defend themselves and the subject of micro-aggressions in court, UVA will definitely settle. No way do they want a public trial.
What's to defend? These professors screwed up and they know it.
Yep. I would honestly like to see them defend the theory and their handling of the student in public. Sadly they know they can’t and we will be denied the entertainment. They’ll unfortunately settle.
Anonymous
04/08/2021 12:48
Subject: UVA Microaggression case
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have links to the Reddit discussions mentioned in this thread?
There are a few. Google uva microaggression case Reddit. Here is on that link to (some deleted) 4chan threads.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UVA/comments/ab1dy7/university_of_virginia_med_student_receives_1year/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Oh well if the 4chan trolls are all up in this it must be a scandal. /s
Anonymous
04/08/2021 12:32
Subject: Re:UVA Microaggression case
A well reasoned judicial opinion. No idea who will prevail. But qualified immunity will also have to be litigated, it sounds like. Gulp.