Anonymous
Post 04/07/2021 18:19     Subject: out of control teens steal car and kill ANOTHER person

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, DC. I just left the city after nearly 18 years and took my six figure salary with me. As of today, you're up 31 percent in homicides compared to 2020, and 2020 was up from 2019, etc. The tax base needs to dry up- the city should not continually be rewarded more tax dollars for incompetence and negligence in protecting its citizens. Now I'm just watching from afar, reading stories that reaffirm my decision to leave.


Mayor says crime is down. Don't know what you are talking about.




+1

And you believe her?
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2021 18:18     Subject: out of control teens steal car and kill ANOTHER person

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Anonymous wrote:This is a reason the schools need to open. Teens have been neglected by the city for the last year. We can open bars - but can't figure out how to open schools. These kids need to supports that are provided by the structure of the school system.


Aren't schools open in DC?


No, public schools are not.

Signed,
Tired parent
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2021 16:56     Subject: out of control teens steal car and kill ANOTHER person

If being tough on crime and putting perps in jail were enough to curb crime then we should be the safest country in the world....because we incarcerate more people than any other country in the world!

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2019-05-13/10-countries-with-the-highest-incarceration-rates

Anonymous
Post 04/07/2021 13:53     Subject: Re:out of control teens steal car and kill ANOTHER person

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Anonymous wrote:
I’m all for tough on crime policing and sentencing, as long as it is accompanied by a focus on values as well. The problem with tough on crime is you have the left telling people that it’s not their fault and they are victims of various ——isms. The tough on crime thing works for a while but then people actually start believing those promoting the blameless victim narrative and the whole thing falls apart. So yes, tough on crime but values need to be hammered on.


The tough on crime thing works for a while, if you discount the staggering human cost because you're not the one paying it.


Are there any other examples in history of great civilizations that began to identify and sympathize with perpetrators of violence crimes like murder and rape, over the victims? If so, what were the ultimate outcomes?

At this point, everyone is so scared of offending anyone, lest they be branded on the internet with the scarlet letter of unwokeness, that there is just massive groupthink controlling criminal justice. I mean imagine advocating for, Gasp, more police to actually stop the 31% increase is homicides!!!??? Can you imagine? Or someone actually going to jail for raping someone and not being released in 2 years from a plea deal? Noooo. That would be messed up. We need to get the parties together to discuss their thoughts and feelings in a safe environment.

It sucks Bob got smashed in the head with a hammer and now can’t talk, but he got to sit in a room with his attacker and learn how sorry the attacker was. Justice restored!!!!

Or like that lady who was raped in Capitol Hill a few years ago, while her kids were home, and had her nose broken, her attacker was lucky enough to have the youth rehabilitation act so he could get out and rape again! Thanks woke justice advocates. Everyday your policies get someone out of jail early and make us less safe the better! Because it’s not about protecting people, it’s about righting wrongs through social engineering.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/dc-rapist-subject-of-congressional-investigation-into-sexual-misconduct-in-federal-prison/2017/05/11/f6ec4a30-365f-11e7-b373-418f6849a004_story.html
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2021 11:47     Subject: Re:out of control teens steal car and kill ANOTHER person

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I’m all for tough on crime policing and sentencing, as long as it is accompanied by a focus on values as well. The problem with tough on crime is you have the left telling people that it’s not their fault and they are victims of various ——isms. The tough on crime thing works for a while but then people actually start believing those promoting the blameless victim narrative and the whole thing falls apart. So yes, tough on crime but values need to be hammered on.


The tough on crime thing works for a while, if you discount the staggering human cost because you're not the one paying it.



Baltimore knows the costs of being lax on crime. 300+ murders every year since the SJW version of criminal justice has taken over.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2021 11:40     Subject: Re:out of control teens steal car and kill ANOTHER person

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I’m all for tough on crime policing and sentencing, as long as it is accompanied by a focus on values as well. The problem with tough on crime is you have the left telling people that it’s not their fault and they are victims of various ——isms. The tough on crime thing works for a while but then people actually start believing those promoting the blameless victim narrative and the whole thing falls apart. So yes, tough on crime but values need to be hammered on.


The tough on crime thing works for a while, if you discount the staggering human cost because you're not the one paying it.


The cost is.. more lawbreakers in jail, and fewer innocent people being murdered or victims of violent crimes? Sign me up!
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2021 11:37     Subject: Re:out of control teens steal car and kill ANOTHER person

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I’m all for tough on crime policing and sentencing, as long as it is accompanied by a focus on values as well. The problem with tough on crime is you have the left telling people that it’s not their fault and they are victims of various ——isms. The tough on crime thing works for a while but then people actually start believing those promoting the blameless victim narrative and the whole thing falls apart. So yes, tough on crime but values need to be hammered on.


The tough on crime thing works for a while, if you discount the staggering human cost because you're not the one paying it.


Mr. Anwar and his family know the staggering human cost of few to no consequences for criminal behavior.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2021 11:27     Subject: Re:out of control teens steal car and kill ANOTHER person

Anonymous wrote:
I’m all for tough on crime policing and sentencing, as long as it is accompanied by a focus on values as well. The problem with tough on crime is you have the left telling people that it’s not their fault and they are victims of various ——isms. The tough on crime thing works for a while but then people actually start believing those promoting the blameless victim narrative and the whole thing falls apart. So yes, tough on crime but values need to be hammered on.


The tough on crime thing works for a while, if you discount the staggering human cost because you're not the one paying it.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2021 11:21     Subject: out of control teens steal car and kill ANOTHER person

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, DC. I just left the city after nearly 18 years and took my six figure salary with me. As of today, you're up 31 percent in homicides compared to 2020, and 2020 was up from 2019, etc. The tax base needs to dry up- the city should not continually be rewarded more tax dollars for incompetence and negligence in protecting its citizens. Now I'm just watching from afar, reading stories that reaffirm my decision to leave.


Mayor says crime is down. Don't know what you are talking about.


Anonymous
Post 04/07/2021 11:20     Subject: out of control teens steal car and kill ANOTHER person

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, DC. I just left the city after nearly 18 years and took my six figure salary with me. As of today, you're up 31 percent in homicides compared to 2020, and 2020 was up from 2019, etc. The tax base needs to dry up- the city should not continually be rewarded more tax dollars for incompetence and negligence in protecting its citizens. Now I'm just watching from afar, reading stories that reaffirm my decision to leave.


+100
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2021 11:07     Subject: Re:out of control teens steal car and kill ANOTHER person

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That’s what’s insane. At no point is there any self accountability for these actions. It’s always “the system did this!” and because of hyper wokeness anyone who says otherwise will lose their job or be shamed on social media. So there really is no recourse. It’s just a super liberal city council that will continue to pass soft on crime laws that allow crime with impunity and then a bunch of poor people or gentrifiers getting shot and life just goes on apparently. Don’t even think about actually policing anymore. That’s racist.


Please describe what you mean by "actually policing."


I doubt you were arguing in good faith, and are merely looking for an opportunity to post a woke hot take or a snarky comment meant to dunk on my interpretation of what community policing should mean, and anything I say will be met with an instant knee jerk rebuttal about how stop and frisk and broken windows policing was racist and all that, but here goes:

Police should not feel or be handicapped in their ability to stop violent crime. They should wear body cameras and if they break the law be arrested. We should get rid of qualified immunity. However, the tough on crime policing of the 90s worked. Many people were incarcerated and many lives were shattered because of that rise in arrests, but crime was measurably lowered. We have now hit the era that since there is a disproportionate rate of arrest and incarceration by a certain group of people, even if those arrests and convictions are justified, because of the disproportionate arrest statistics being so outsized, rather than actually trying to stymy the crime commiters actions (no matter what group they belong to) the latest movement is to provide “restorative justice” for violent crime, to lower sentences which incentives crime. That’s not racist that’s a fact.


The "tough on crime" policing worked, if the goal was to incarcerate people, break up families, destabilize society, and enrich the for-profit prison industry. If you think that statement is "snarky" or "woke", I don't know what to say.

You might try reading "Locking Up Our Own," by James Forman.


You might try reading the most recent Atlantic article that showed tough on crime policing worked.

I guess there is a study for everything though. And now because we’re see sawing to the other side of criminal prosecution, where is hugs and restorative justice and no one will go to jail or face accountability for violent crime, I guess we get to find out in another 10 years how that affected crime when another study comes out. And if dc goes back to being a crime ridden cesspool like the Barry years well I guess the woke folks will have been right all along. I’m pretty sure though, based on the increase in teen violence and car jackings that they’re wrong.

I’m all for tough on crime policing and sentencing, as long as it is accompanied by a focus on values as well. The problem with tough on crime is you have the left telling people that it’s not their fault and they are victims of various ——isms. The tough on crime thing works for a while but then people actually start believing those promoting the blameless victim narrative and the whole thing falls apart. So yes, tough on crime but values need to be hammered on.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2021 10:10     Subject: out of control teens steal car and kill ANOTHER person

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, DC. I just left the city after nearly 18 years and took my six figure salary with me. As of today, you're up 31 percent in homicides compared to 2020, and 2020 was up from 2019, etc. The tax base needs to dry up- the city should not continually be rewarded more tax dollars for incompetence and negligence in protecting its citizens. Now I'm just watching from afar, reading stories that reaffirm my decision to leave.


Why? Usually people who are confident that they made the correct decision don't need continual reaffirmation that they made the correct decision.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2021 09:52     Subject: out of control teens steal car and kill ANOTHER person

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Anonymous wrote:It's obvious that parents need help with their parenting. We can't rely on schools to fill in the gap, especially during the pandemic. Neighbors and elders and extended family need to step up. Unfortunately, there is a pervasive attitude not to get involved, which only leaves the problem of juvenile criminality to fester. I'm not sure that having well-intentioned white people here is going to help. This really has to be done neighborhood by neighborhood, and the city needs to step up and help citizens who want to help.


You assume they have (two) parents that are alive and functioning. And “elders”? Is this some sort of ancient church-based society? Or, if you meant grandparents, they’re likely dead or laying in an alley hoped up on opium. The city will not step up. The city can’t even administer itself much less solve this complex issue. Criminals have been emboldened and until an opposing force scares them into thinking twice, these incidents will escalate.


Why are you assuming that their grandparents are dead. When I grew up in Anacostia it was the Grandmas that rules the neighborhood. The biggest threat you could be told by anyone, including a police officer, was that you would be taken your grandma. I think that the PP is making lots of woke assumptions about raising kids in black neighborhoods. But I am not sure why they think that all of the grandparents are dead.


Yeah, sorry, that's... not my experience. In many cases, grandparents are the ones raising their grandchildren!


Exactly...the grandparents are not dead, they are raising the grandkids.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2021 09:51     Subject: out of control teens steal car and kill ANOTHER person

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, DC. I just left the city after nearly 18 years and took my six figure salary with me. As of today, you're up 31 percent in homicides compared to 2020, and 2020 was up from 2019, etc. The tax base needs to dry up- the city should not continually be rewarded more tax dollars for incompetence and negligence in protecting its citizens. Now I'm just watching from afar, reading stories that reaffirm my decision to leave.


Mayor says crime is down. Don't know what you are talking about.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2021 09:48     Subject: out of control teens steal car and kill ANOTHER person

Sorry, DC. I just left the city after nearly 18 years and took my six figure salary with me. As of today, you're up 31 percent in homicides compared to 2020, and 2020 was up from 2019, etc. The tax base needs to dry up- the city should not continually be rewarded more tax dollars for incompetence and negligence in protecting its citizens. Now I'm just watching from afar, reading stories that reaffirm my decision to leave.