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Anonymous wrote:APS teacher here. I am in meetings for usually 5 hours on Mondays. I spend 2-3 hours with my language arts team planning and preparing the comi week’s (or the week after if we are ahead) lessons, assignments, and recordings. So, we aren’t continuously live that whole time. Then in the afternoon we meet as a grade level team and review the planned lessons each person did for the week with the team so we are all prepared to teach it as well as discuss assessments, scheduling for interventions, projects coming up. Then I also work preparing things on my own and working on IEPs or other paperwork (I’m a special Ed teacher for this grade level).

APS changed their plan for tomorrow just a few weeks ago, and some teachers, like MANY students, will still be traveling back and not able to hold synchronous classes tomorrow. You wouldn’t know if they had taken the day of asynchronous but it was likely already planned in advance. Sorry yea hers don’t get to take their earned leave in your view.

When did all this stuff occur prior to Asych Mondays? Did it just happen after the school day? I am just curious.

One thing you should understand is how much work related to teaching is expected to be done on our own time. There is quite literally not enough time in the contract hours to do it all. Yes there is “planning time” - that is usually when you have CLT meetings or PD they make us do once a month or an IEP meeting. Yes, meetings also occur before and after school. For example I have a department meeting tomorrow morning at 8 am. Faculty meetings were always after school on the first Tuesday of the month or whatever. Lesson planning and grading - the assumption is you’ll do it at home. And I used to, but I don’t anymore. If I can’t teach, grade, plan, pull data, give IEP feedback, attend meetings and trainings in the contracted hours, they gave me too much to do. I do absolutely zero work outside of contract any longer because I’m done doing work for free. It gets done on contract time, however many days that takes.

Wow. And this is the difference between public and private school teachers. I’ve always wondered why private school teachers are so good and part of it seems they have such a work ethic. They bring stacks of papers home with them, sit in their beds or at their dining table or on their sofas and grade, grade, grade. They read long essays and research reports. They give VERY detailed and thoughtful feedback and comments. They spend their own $$ often and they spend hours outside of school hours planning.

It’s what teachers DO, for godsakes!! It’s been this way forever. It’s how my own public school teachers used to be as well. Why even go into teaching, if you don’t want to grade on weekends or in evenings?

First of all, we are all doing that. There’s one teacher on here saying she doesn’t, and, God bless her, I don’t know how it’s humanly possible to complete the functions of her job. Second, there are people on here comparing working outside hours in their professional jobs to those of educators. Nope. Don’t do it. You don’t even come close. Lastly, while I do, indeed, cover the dining room table, sit in bed with the laptop, and work constantly- I think you are disgusting to EXPECT that. My kids are important, too. Summer is usually when I make it all up to them. Except last summer, because I was learning how to turn all of this fabulous textbook information you speak of into a virtual platform. Some people. I really just can’t believe that- that you EXPECT it.

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Anonymous wrote:APS teacher here. I am in meetings for usually 5 hours on Mondays. I spend 2-3 hours with my language arts team planning and preparing the comi week’s (or the week after if we are ahead) lessons, assignments, and recordings. So, we aren’t continuously live that whole time. Then in the afternoon we meet as a grade level team and review the planned lessons each person did for the week with the team so we are all prepared to teach it as well as discuss assessments, scheduling for interventions, projects coming up. Then I also work preparing things on my own and working on IEPs or other paperwork (I’m a special Ed teacher for this grade level).

APS changed their plan for tomorrow just a few weeks ago, and some teachers, like MANY students, will still be traveling back and not able to hold synchronous classes tomorrow. You wouldn’t know if they had taken the day of asynchronous but it was likely already planned in advance. Sorry yea hers don’t get to take their earned leave in your view.

When did all this stuff occur prior to Asych Mondays? Did it just happen after the school day? I am just curious.

One thing you should understand is how much work related to teaching is expected to be done on our own time. There is quite literally not enough time in the contract hours to do it all. Yes there is “planning time” - that is usually when you have CLT meetings or PD they make us do once a month or an IEP meeting. Yes, meetings also occur before and after school. For example I have a department meeting tomorrow morning at 8 am. Faculty meetings were always after school on the first Tuesday of the month or whatever. Lesson planning and grading - the assumption is you’ll do it at home. And I used to, but I don’t anymore. If I can’t teach, grade, plan, pull data, give IEP feedback, attend meetings and trainings in the contracted hours, they gave me too much to do. I do absolutely zero work outside of contract any longer because I’m done doing work for free. It gets done on contract time, however many days that takes.

Wow. And this is the difference between public and private school teachers. I’ve always wondered why private school teachers are so good and part of it seems they have such a work ethic. They bring stacks of papers home with them, sit in their beds or at their dining table or on their sofas and grade, grade, grade. They read long essays and research reports. They give VERY detailed and thoughtful feedback and comments. They spend their own $$ often and they spend hours outside of school hours planning.

It’s what teachers DO, for godsakes!! It’s been this way forever. It’s how my own public school teachers used to be as well. Why even go into teaching, if you don’t want to grade on weekends or in evenings?

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Anonymous wrote:Both my kids had all of their teachers in live sessions today. *shrug*

Oh yes, because APS is the picture of uniformity. Nothing ever varies between schools.

Try supporting other parents. Next time it could just as easily be you in our shoes.

Unlike yours, apparently, my kids would cope. I support teachers as well as parents, when they are being reasonable and rational

Thank you. I don’t think this is a system wide issue. Every teacher I know worked yesterday.

I’m sorry you had a couple that utilized a personal day. PP, please consider their personal day may have been planned before the live Monday ever was. Perhaps they chose to take of on an asynchronous day so that they wouldn’t have to miss an instructional day. Maybe their Principal had already approved it, and let them keep their plans.

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Anonymous wrote:Both my kids had all of their teachers in live sessions today. *shrug*

Oh yes, because APS is the picture of uniformity. Nothing ever varies between schools.

Try supporting other parents. Next time it could just as easily be you in our shoes.

Unlike yours, apparently, my kids would cope. I support teachers as well as parents, when they are being reasonable and rational

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Anonymous wrote:APS teacher here. I am in meetings for usually 5 hours on Mondays. I spend 2-3 hours with my language arts team planning and preparing the comi week’s (or the week after if we are ahead) lessons, assignments, and recordings. So, we aren’t continuously live that whole time. Then in the afternoon we meet as a grade level team and review the planned lessons each person did for the week with the team so we are all prepared to teach it as well as discuss assessments, scheduling for interventions, projects coming up. Then I also work preparing things on my own and working on IEPs or other paperwork (I’m a special Ed teacher for this grade level).

APS changed their plan for tomorrow just a few weeks ago, and some teachers, like MANY students, will still be traveling back and not able to hold synchronous classes tomorrow. You wouldn’t know if they had taken the day of asynchronous but it was likely already planned in advance. Sorry yea hers don’t get to take their earned leave in your view.

When did all this stuff occur prior to Asych Mondays? Did it just happen after the school day? I am just curious.

One thing you should understand is how much work related to teaching is expected to be done on our own time. There is quite literally not enough time in the contract hours to do it all. Yes there is “planning time” - that is usually when you have CLT meetings or PD they make us do once a month or an IEP meeting. Yes, meetings also occur before and after school. For example I have a department meeting tomorrow morning at 8 am. Faculty meetings were always after school on the first Tuesday of the month or whatever. Lesson planning and grading - the assumption is you’ll do it at home. And I used to, but I don’t anymore. If I can’t teach, grade, plan, pull data, give IEP feedback, attend meetings and trainings in the contracted hours, they gave me too much to do. I do absolutely zero work outside of contract any longer because I’m done doing work for free. It gets done on contract time, however many days that takes.

Wow. And this is the difference between public and private school teachers. I’ve always wondered why private school teachers are so good and part of it seems they have such a work ethic. They bring stacks of papers home with them, sit in their beds or at their dining table or on their sofas and grade, grade, grade. They read long essays and research reports. They give VERY detailed and thoughtful feedback and comments. They spend their own $$ often and they spend hours outside of school hours planning.

It’s what teachers DO, for godsakes!! It’s been this way forever. It’s how my own public school teachers used to be as well. Why even go into teaching, if you don’t want to grade on weekends or in evenings?

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Anonymous wrote:APS teacher here. I am in meetings for usually 5 hours on Mondays. I spend 2-3 hours with my language arts team planning and preparing the comi week’s (or the week after if we are ahead) lessons, assignments, and recordings. So, we aren’t continuously live that whole time. Then in the afternoon we meet as a grade level team and review the planned lessons each person did for the week with the team so we are all prepared to teach it as well as discuss assessments, scheduling for interventions, projects coming up. Then I also work preparing things on my own and working on IEPs or other paperwork (I’m a special Ed teacher for this grade level).

APS changed their plan for tomorrow just a few weeks ago, and some teachers, like MANY students, will still be traveling back and not able to hold synchronous classes tomorrow. You wouldn’t know if they had taken the day of asynchronous but it was likely already planned in advance. Sorry yea hers don’t get to take their earned leave in your view.

When did all this stuff occur prior to Asych Mondays? Did it just happen after the school day? I am just curious.

One thing you should understand is how much work related to teaching is expected to be done on our own time. There is quite literally not enough time in the contract hours to do it all. Yes there is “planning time” - that is usually when you have CLT meetings or PD they make us do once a month or an IEP meeting. Yes, meetings also occur before and after school. For example I have a department meeting tomorrow morning at 8 am. Faculty meetings were always after school on the first Tuesday of the month or whatever. Lesson planning and grading - the assumption is you’ll do it at home. And I used to, but I don’t anymore. If I can’t teach, grade, plan, pull data, give IEP feedback, attend meetings and trainings in the contracted hours, they gave me too much to do. I do absolutely zero work outside of contract any longer because I’m done doing work for free. It gets done on contract time, however many days that takes.

I get that, but I mean we will (hopefully from a parent perspective) have the kids in school 5 days a week next year. So, it sounds like they need to expand contracted hours

But they won’t. Because then they’d have to pay more. And there is this very toxic attitude around education that teachers should be HAPPY to do unpaid work because it’s “for the kids.” The education system completely exploits that and a lot of teachers (myself included up until a few years ago) let them do it, because we fall for the trap. If they give us too much to do during our actual work hours, I no longer spend weekends or precious free time with my family picking up slack and getting it done. I prioritize the stuff dealing directly with the kids, use every minute of my contract time, and whatever doesn’t get done will get done when I get to it.

Do you realize that many professional people who make the same salaries as teachers regularly do work outside of normal hours?

The idea of contracted hours is a foreign concept to me. I know no professional level person who sticks to - I only work between hours x and y. You do what you need to do to get your job done.

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Anonymous wrote:APS teacher here. I am in meetings for usually 5 hours on Mondays. I spend 2-3 hours with my language arts team planning and preparing the comi week’s (or the week after if we are ahead) lessons, assignments, and recordings. So, we aren’t continuously live that whole time. Then in the afternoon we meet as a grade level team and review the planned lessons each person did for the week with the team so we are all prepared to teach it as well as discuss assessments, scheduling for interventions, projects coming up. Then I also work preparing things on my own and working on IEPs or other paperwork (I’m a special Ed teacher for this grade level).

APS changed their plan for tomorrow just a few weeks ago, and some teachers, like MANY students, will still be traveling back and not able to hold synchronous classes tomorrow. You wouldn’t know if they had taken the day of asynchronous but it was likely already planned in advance. Sorry yea hers don’t get to take their earned leave in your view.

When did all this stuff occur prior to Asych Mondays? Did it just happen after the school day? I am just curious.

One thing you should understand is how much work related to teaching is expected to be done on our own time. There is quite literally not enough time in the contract hours to do it all. Yes there is “planning time” - that is usually when you have CLT meetings or PD they make us do once a month or an IEP meeting. Yes, meetings also occur before and after school. For example I have a department meeting tomorrow morning at 8 am. Faculty meetings were always after school on the first Tuesday of the month or whatever. Lesson planning and grading - the assumption is you’ll do it at home. And I used to, but I don’t anymore. If I can’t teach, grade, plan, pull data, give IEP feedback, attend meetings and trainings in the contracted hours, they gave me too much to do. I do absolutely zero work outside of contract any longer because I’m done doing work for free. It gets done on contract time, however many days that takes.

I get that, but I mean we will (hopefully from a parent perspective) have the kids in school 5 days a week next year. So, it sounds like they need to expand contracted hours

But they won’t. Because then they’d have to pay more. And there is this very toxic attitude around education that teachers should be HAPPY to do unpaid work because it’s “for the kids.” The education system completely exploits that and a lot of teachers (myself included up until a few years ago) let them do it, because we fall for the trap. If they give us too much to do during our actual work hours, I no longer spend weekends or precious free time with my family picking up slack and getting it done. I prioritize the stuff dealing directly with the kids, use every minute of my contract time, and whatever doesn’t get done will get done when I get to it.

Do you realize that many professional people who make the same salaries as teachers regularly do work outside of normal hours?

The idea of contracted hours is a foreign concept to me. I know no professional level person who sticks to - I only work between hours x and y. You do what you need to do to get your job done.

Yep and we work year round with 2-4 weeks off a year.

We need to make changes. It’s unacceptable to have a significant portion of teachers who simply don’t want to go above & beyond. It truly makes me sick. In any other profession, people would be fired for delivering such mediocre results. I blame District and administrative officials for creating such a burdensome work environment with IEPs and other draining, time sucking tasks. But let’s face it, teacher are increasing refusing to work beyond contract hours. Many many people do work in off hours. It is NORMAL.

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Anonymous wrote:APS teacher here. I am in meetings for usually 5 hours on Mondays. I spend 2-3 hours with my language arts team planning and preparing the comi week’s (or the week after if we are ahead) lessons, assignments, and recordings. So, we aren’t continuously live that whole time. Then in the afternoon we meet as a grade level team and review the planned lessons each person did for the week with the team so we are all prepared to teach it as well as discuss assessments, scheduling for interventions, projects coming up. Then I also work preparing things on my own and working on IEPs or other paperwork (I’m a special Ed teacher for this grade level).

APS changed their plan for tomorrow just a few weeks ago, and some teachers, like MANY students, will still be traveling back and not able to hold synchronous classes tomorrow. You wouldn’t know if they had taken the day of asynchronous but it was likely already planned in advance. Sorry yea hers don’t get to take their earned leave in your view.

When did all this stuff occur prior to Asych Mondays? Did it just happen after the school day? I am just curious.

One thing you should understand is how much work related to teaching is expected to be done on our own time. There is quite literally not enough time in the contract hours to do it all. Yes there is “planning time” - that is usually when you have CLT meetings or PD they make us do once a month or an IEP meeting. Yes, meetings also occur before and after school. For example I have a department meeting tomorrow morning at 8 am. Faculty meetings were always after school on the first Tuesday of the month or whatever. Lesson planning and grading - the assumption is you’ll do it at home. And I used to, but I don’t anymore. If I can’t teach, grade, plan, pull data, give IEP feedback, attend meetings and trainings in the contracted hours, they gave me too much to do. I do absolutely zero work outside of contract any longer because I’m done doing work for free. It gets done on contract time, however many days that takes.

I get that, but I mean we will (hopefully from a parent perspective) have the kids in school 5 days a week next year. So, it sounds like they need to expand contracted hours

But they won’t. Because then they’d have to pay more. And there is this very toxic attitude around education that teachers should be HAPPY to do unpaid work because it’s “for the kids.” The education system completely exploits that and a lot of teachers (myself included up until a few years ago) let them do it, because we fall for the trap. If they give us too much to do during our actual work hours, I no longer spend weekends or precious free time with my family picking up slack and getting it done. I prioritize the stuff dealing directly with the kids, use every minute of my contract time, and whatever doesn’t get done will get done when I get to it.

Do you realize that many professional people who make the same salaries as teachers regularly do work outside of normal hours?

The idea of contracted hours is a foreign concept to me. I know no professional level person who sticks to - I only work between hours x and y. You do what you need to do to get your job done.

Yep and we work year round with 2-4 weeks off a year.

Let me guess, you walk to work uphill too.

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Anonymous wrote:APS teacher here. I am in meetings for usually 5 hours on Mondays. I spend 2-3 hours with my language arts team planning and preparing the comi week’s (or the week after if we are ahead) lessons, assignments, and recordings. So, we aren’t continuously live that whole time. Then in the afternoon we meet as a grade level team and review the planned lessons each person did for the week with the team so we are all prepared to teach it as well as discuss assessments, scheduling for interventions, projects coming up. Then I also work preparing things on my own and working on IEPs or other paperwork (I’m a special Ed teacher for this grade level).

APS changed their plan for tomorrow just a few weeks ago, and some teachers, like MANY students, will still be traveling back and not able to hold synchronous classes tomorrow. You wouldn’t know if they had taken the day of asynchronous but it was likely already planned in advance. Sorry yea hers don’t get to take their earned leave in your view.

When did all this stuff occur prior to Asych Mondays? Did it just happen after the school day? I am just curious.

One thing you should understand is how much work related to teaching is expected to be done on our own time. There is quite literally not enough time in the contract hours to do it all. Yes there is “planning time” - that is usually when you have CLT meetings or PD they make us do once a month or an IEP meeting. Yes, meetings also occur before and after school. For example I have a department meeting tomorrow morning at 8 am. Faculty meetings were always after school on the first Tuesday of the month or whatever. Lesson planning and grading - the assumption is you’ll do it at home. And I used to, but I don’t anymore. If I can’t teach, grade, plan, pull data, give IEP feedback, attend meetings and trainings in the contracted hours, they gave me too much to do. I do absolutely zero work outside of contract any longer because I’m done doing work for free. It gets done on contract time, however many days that takes.

I get that, but I mean we will (hopefully from a parent perspective) have the kids in school 5 days a week next year. So, it sounds like they need to expand contracted hours

But they won’t. Because then they’d have to pay more. And there is this very toxic attitude around education that teachers should be HAPPY to do unpaid work because it’s “for the kids.” The education system completely exploits that and a lot of teachers (myself included up until a few years ago) let them do it, because we fall for the trap. If they give us too much to do during our actual work hours, I no longer spend weekends or precious free time with my family picking up slack and getting it done. I prioritize the stuff dealing directly with the kids, use every minute of my contract time, and whatever doesn’t get done will get done when I get to it.

Do you realize that many professional people who make the same salaries as teachers regularly do work outside of normal hours?

The idea of contracted hours is a foreign concept to me. I know no professional level person who sticks to - I only work between hours x and y. You do what you need to do to get your job done.

Yep and we work year round with 2-4 weeks off a year.

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Anonymous wrote:APS teacher here. I am in meetings for usually 5 hours on Mondays. I spend 2-3 hours with my language arts team planning and preparing the comi week’s (or the week after if we are ahead) lessons, assignments, and recordings. So, we aren’t continuously live that whole time. Then in the afternoon we meet as a grade level team and review the planned lessons each person did for the week with the team so we are all prepared to teach it as well as discuss assessments, scheduling for interventions, projects coming up. Then I also work preparing things on my own and working on IEPs or other paperwork (I’m a special Ed teacher for this grade level).

APS changed their plan for tomorrow just a few weeks ago, and some teachers, like MANY students, will still be traveling back and not able to hold synchronous classes tomorrow. You wouldn’t know if they had taken the day of asynchronous but it was likely already planned in advance. Sorry yea hers don’t get to take their earned leave in your view.

When did all this stuff occur prior to Asych Mondays? Did it just happen after the school day? I am just curious.

One thing you should understand is how much work related to teaching is expected to be done on our own time. There is quite literally not enough time in the contract hours to do it all. Yes there is “planning time” - that is usually when you have CLT meetings or PD they make us do once a month or an IEP meeting. Yes, meetings also occur before and after school. For example I have a department meeting tomorrow morning at 8 am. Faculty meetings were always after school on the first Tuesday of the month or whatever. Lesson planning and grading - the assumption is you’ll do it at home. And I used to, but I don’t anymore. If I can’t teach, grade, plan, pull data, give IEP feedback, attend meetings and trainings in the contracted hours, they gave me too much to do. I do absolutely zero work outside of contract any longer because I’m done doing work for free. It gets done on contract time, however many days that takes.

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Anonymous wrote:APS teacher here. I am in meetings for usually 5 hours on Mondays. I spend 2-3 hours with my language arts team planning and preparing the comi week’s (or the week after if we are ahead) lessons, assignments, and recordings. So, we aren’t continuously live that whole time. Then in the afternoon we meet as a grade level team and review the planned lessons each person did for the week with the team so we are all prepared to teach it as well as discuss assessments, scheduling for interventions, projects coming up. Then I also work preparing things on my own and working on IEPs or other paperwork (I’m a special Ed teacher for this grade level).

APS changed their plan for tomorrow just a few weeks ago, and some teachers, like MANY students, will still be traveling back and not able to hold synchronous classes tomorrow. You wouldn’t know if they had taken the day of asynchronous but it was likely already planned in advance. Sorry yea hers don’t get to take their earned leave in your view.

When did all this stuff occur prior to Asych Mondays? Did it just happen after the school day? I am just curious.

One thing you should understand is how much work related to teaching is expected to be done on our own time. There is quite literally not enough time in the contract hours to do it all. Yes there is “planning time” - that is usually when you have CLT meetings or PD they make us do once a month or an IEP meeting. Yes, meetings also occur before and after school. For example I have a department meeting tomorrow morning at 8 am. Faculty meetings were always after school on the first Tuesday of the month or whatever. Lesson planning and grading - the assumption is you’ll do it at home. And I used to, but I don’t anymore. If I can’t teach, grade, plan, pull data, give IEP feedback, attend meetings and trainings in the contracted hours, they gave me too much to do. I do absolutely zero work outside of contract any longer because I’m done doing work for free. It gets done on contract time, however many days that takes.

I get that, but I mean we will (hopefully from a parent perspective) have the kids in school 5 days a week next year. So, it sounds like they need to expand contracted hours

But they won’t. Because then they’d have to pay more. And there is this very toxic attitude around education that teachers should be HAPPY to do unpaid work because it’s “for the kids.” The education system completely exploits that and a lot of teachers (myself included up until a few years ago) let them do it, because we fall for the trap. If they give us too much to do during our actual work hours, I no longer spend weekends or precious free time with my family picking up slack and getting it done. I prioritize the stuff dealing directly with the kids, use every minute of my contract time, and whatever doesn’t get done will get done when I get to it.

Do you realize that many professional people who make the same salaries as teachers regularly do work outside of normal hours?

The idea of contracted hours is a foreign concept to me. I know no professional level person who sticks to - I only work between hours x and y. You do what you need to do to get your job done.

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Anonymous wrote:APS teacher here. I am in meetings for usually 5 hours on Mondays. I spend 2-3 hours with my language arts team planning and preparing the comi week’s (or the week after if we are ahead) lessons, assignments, and recordings. So, we aren’t continuously live that whole time. Then in the afternoon we meet as a grade level team and review the planned lessons each person did for the week with the team so we are all prepared to teach it as well as discuss assessments, scheduling for interventions, projects coming up. Then I also work preparing things on my own and working on IEPs or other paperwork (I’m a special Ed teacher for this grade level).

APS changed their plan for tomorrow just a few weeks ago, and some teachers, like MANY students, will still be traveling back and not able to hold synchronous classes tomorrow. You wouldn’t know if they had taken the day of asynchronous but it was likely already planned in advance. Sorry yea hers don’t get to take their earned leave in your view.

When did all this stuff occur prior to Asych Mondays? Did it just happen after the school day? I am just curious.

One thing you should understand is how much work related to teaching is expected to be done on our own time. There is quite literally not enough time in the contract hours to do it all. Yes there is “planning time” - that is usually when you have CLT meetings or PD they make us do once a month or an IEP meeting. Yes, meetings also occur before and after school. For example I have a department meeting tomorrow morning at 8 am. Faculty meetings were always after school on the first Tuesday of the month or whatever. Lesson planning and grading - the assumption is you’ll do it at home. And I used to, but I don’t anymore. If I can’t teach, grade, plan, pull data, give IEP feedback, attend meetings and trainings in the contracted hours, they gave me too much to do. I do absolutely zero work outside of contract any longer because I’m done doing work for free. It gets done on contract time, however many days that takes.

I get that, but I mean we will (hopefully from a parent perspective) have the kids in school 5 days a week next year. So, it sounds like they need to expand contracted hours

But they won’t. Because then they’d have to pay more. And there is this very toxic attitude around education that teachers should be HAPPY to do unpaid work because it’s “for the kids.” The education system completely exploits that and a lot of teachers (myself included up until a few years ago) let them do it, because we fall for the trap. If they give us too much to do during our actual work hours, I no longer spend weekends or precious free time with my family picking up slack and getting it done. I prioritize the stuff dealing directly with the kids, use every minute of my contract time, and whatever doesn’t get done will get done when I get to it.

Do you realize that many professional people who make the same salaries as teachers regularly do work outside of normal hours?

The idea of contracted hours is a foreign concept to me. I know no professional level person who sticks to - I only work between hours x and y. You do what you need to do to get your job done.

Yep and we work year round with 2-4 weeks off a year.

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Anonymous wrote:Both my kids had all of their teachers in live sessions today. *shrug*

Oh yes, because APS is the picture of uniformity. Nothing ever varies between schools.

Try supporting other parents. Next time it could just as easily be you in our shoes.

Unlike yours, apparently, my kids would cope. I support teachers as well as parents, when they are being reasonable and rational

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Anonymous wrote:APS teacher here. I am in meetings for usually 5 hours on Mondays. I spend 2-3 hours with my language arts team planning and preparing the comi week’s (or the week after if we are ahead) lessons, assignments, and recordings. So, we aren’t continuously live that whole time. Then in the afternoon we meet as a grade level team and review the planned lessons each person did for the week with the team so we are all prepared to teach it as well as discuss assessments, scheduling for interventions, projects coming up. Then I also work preparing things on my own and working on IEPs or other paperwork (I’m a special Ed teacher for this grade level).

APS changed their plan for tomorrow just a few weeks ago, and some teachers, like MANY students, will still be traveling back and not able to hold synchronous classes tomorrow. You wouldn’t know if they had taken the day of asynchronous but it was likely already planned in advance. Sorry yea hers don’t get to take their earned leave in your view.

When did all this stuff occur prior to Asych Mondays? Did it just happen after the school day? I am just curious.

One thing you should understand is how much work related to teaching is expected to be done on our own time. There is quite literally not enough time in the contract hours to do it all. Yes there is “planning time” - that is usually when you have CLT meetings or PD they make us do once a month or an IEP meeting. Yes, meetings also occur before and after school. For example I have a department meeting tomorrow morning at 8 am. Faculty meetings were always after school on the first Tuesday of the month or whatever. Lesson planning and grading - the assumption is you’ll do it at home. And I used to, but I don’t anymore. If I can’t teach, grade, plan, pull data, give IEP feedback, attend meetings and trainings in the contracted hours, they gave me too much to do. I do absolutely zero work outside of contract any longer because I’m done doing work for free. It gets done on contract time, however many days that takes.

I get that, but I mean we will (hopefully from a parent perspective) have the kids in school 5 days a week next year. So, it sounds like they need to expand contracted hours

But they won’t. Because then they’d have to pay more. And there is this very toxic attitude around education that teachers should be HAPPY to do unpaid work because it’s “for the kids.” The education system completely exploits that and a lot of teachers (myself included up until a few years ago) let them do it, because we fall for the trap. If they give us too much to do during our actual work hours, I no longer spend weekends or precious free time with my family picking up slack and getting it done. I prioritize the stuff dealing directly with the kids, use every minute of my contract time, and whatever doesn’t get done will get done when I get to it.

Do you realize that many professional people who make the same salaries as teachers regularly do work outside of normal hours?

The idea of contracted hours is a foreign concept to me. I know no professional level person who sticks to - I only work between hours x and y. You do what you need to do to get your job done.

Yep and we work year round with 2-4 weeks off a year.

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Anonymous wrote:Both my kids had all of their teachers in live sessions today. *shrug*

Oh yes, because APS is the picture of uniformity. Nothing ever varies between schools.

Try supporting other parents. Next time it could just as easily be you in our shoes.