Anonymous
Post 04/06/2021 17:50     Subject: CCL extincting

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Anonymous wrote:I have no problem with the travel as I know what I signed up for but would love a local competitive league with all the talent around here. How do we go about doing that?


After CCL is extinct (possibly next year) maybe you will get your wish.


There is no easy answer, but if more families opted for reason and resisted getting sucked into the youth soccer trap, maybe supply and demand would lead to more options that make sense. I can assure you that your average young soccer player is better off playing in local game or league and spending the them saved from driving messing around with friends or practicing in the back yard that driving hours each way for what is often not a competitive game. The cream will always rise to the top, and if your child is ultra talented, he or she will find their way. You don't need to spend the U-little years driving around.


Again, those choices exist, stop acting as if they don't.


Can you name the league where you have local high level competition?


NCSL if your DC is good enough to be in a 1st or 2nd division roster.


There is a huge gap between NCSL D1 and CCL, let alone ECNL.


I have kids in both CCL and NCSL D1 and this just isn't true. First of all, there are no teams as weak as the weakest CCL teams in NCSL Division 1. You could argue that prior to U13, CCL's strongest teams are the future ECNL teams but the top NCSL teams are more solidly the future EDP teams, whereas a lot of those CCL teams only become very competitive once they hold ECNL tryouts. Maybe there are more very strong teams in CCL but the inconsistency is maddening, as are the distances. Obviously, both drop in quality in the older ages but NCSL just makes more sense. Much bigger, promotion and relegation, more games. CCL should fold!
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2021 17:35     Subject: CCL extincting

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Anonymous wrote:I have no problem with the travel as I know what I signed up for but would love a local competitive league with all the talent around here. How do we go about doing that?


After CCL is extinct (possibly next year) maybe you will get your wish.


There is no easy answer, but if more families opted for reason and resisted getting sucked into the youth soccer trap, maybe supply and demand would lead to more options that make sense. I can assure you that your average young soccer player is better off playing in local game or league and spending the them saved from driving messing around with friends or practicing in the back yard that driving hours each way for what is often not a competitive game. The cream will always rise to the top, and if your child is ultra talented, he or she will find their way. You don't need to spend the U-little years driving around.


Again, those choices exist, stop acting as if they don't.


Can you name the league where you have local high level competition?


NCSL if your DC is good enough to be in a 1st or 2nd division roster.


There is a huge gap between NCSL D1 and CCL, let alone ECNL.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2021 17:31     Subject: CCL extincting

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Anonymous wrote:I have no problem with the travel as I know what I signed up for but would love a local competitive league with all the talent around here. How do we go about doing that?


After CCL is extinct (possibly next year) maybe you will get your wish.


There is no easy answer, but if more families opted for reason and resisted getting sucked into the youth soccer trap, maybe supply and demand would lead to more options that make sense. I can assure you that your average young soccer player is better off playing in local game or league and spending the them saved from driving messing around with friends or practicing in the back yard that driving hours each way for what is often not a competitive game. The cream will always rise to the top, and if your child is ultra talented, he or she will find their way. You don't need to spend the U-little years driving around.


Again, those choices exist, stop acting as if they don't.


Can you name the league where you have local high level competition?


You could probably make one if you could get them all to play in the same league. For boys DCU, Arlington, Baltimore Armor, Bethesda, Pipeline, Richmond and VDA would form the basis of a good high level league without having to travel too far. Add SYC, Alexandria, and Skyline and you've got nine teams that would play at a pretty solid level most weeks. I'm sure here are a couple more local clubs that could at least match the level of a LeHigh Valley or one of the weaker Carolina ECNL clubs.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2021 17:22     Subject: CCL extincting

Anonymous wrote:Just to clarify a previous post from another PP. Alexandria is.l not leaving CCL. What the PP was saying is that the U9/2012 girls will not be competing in CCL next gen this spring. That is all.



Not will the u10 (2011) girls
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2021 17:19     Subject: CCL extincting

Just to clarify a previous post from another PP. Alexandria is.l not leaving CCL. What the PP was saying is that the U9/2012 girls will not be competing in CCL next gen this spring. That is all.

Anonymous
Post 04/06/2021 16:54     Subject: CCL extincting

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Anonymous wrote:I have no problem with the travel as I know what I signed up for but would love a local competitive league with all the talent around here. How do we go about doing that?


After CCL is extinct (possibly next year) maybe you will get your wish.


There is no easy answer, but if more families opted for reason and resisted getting sucked into the youth soccer trap, maybe supply and demand would lead to more options that make sense. I can assure you that your average young soccer player is better off playing in local game or league and spending the them saved from driving messing around with friends or practicing in the back yard that driving hours each way for what is often not a competitive game. The cream will always rise to the top, and if your child is ultra talented, he or she will find their way. You don't need to spend the U-little years driving around.


Again, those choices exist, stop acting as if they don't.


Can you name the league where you have local high level competition?


NCSL if your DC is good enough to be in a 1st or 2nd division roster.


NCSL has teams in West Virginia and southern Maryland and throughout virginia - the driving is no better or worse than CCL
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2021 16:41     Subject: CCL extincting

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Anonymous wrote:I have no problem with the travel as I know what I signed up for but would love a local competitive league with all the talent around here. How do we go about doing that?


After CCL is extinct (possibly next year) maybe you will get your wish.


There is no easy answer, but if more families opted for reason and resisted getting sucked into the youth soccer trap, maybe supply and demand would lead to more options that make sense. I can assure you that your average young soccer player is better off playing in local game or league and spending the them saved from driving messing around with friends or practicing in the back yard that driving hours each way for what is often not a competitive game. The cream will always rise to the top, and if your child is ultra talented, he or she will find their way. You don't need to spend the U-little years driving around.


Again, those choices exist, stop acting as if they don't.


Can you name the league where you have local high level competition?


NCSL if your DC is good enough to be in a 1st or 2nd division roster.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2021 14:36     Subject: CCL extincting

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Anonymous wrote:I have no problem with the travel as I know what I signed up for but would love a local competitive league with all the talent around here. How do we go about doing that?


After CCL is extinct (possibly next year) maybe you will get your wish.


There is no easy answer, but if more families opted for reason and resisted getting sucked into the youth soccer trap, maybe supply and demand would lead to more options that make sense. I can assure you that your average young soccer player is better off playing in local game or league and spending the them saved from driving messing around with friends or practicing in the back yard that driving hours each way for what is often not a competitive game. The cream will always rise to the top, and if your child is ultra talented, he or she will find their way. You don't need to spend the U-little years driving around.


Again, those choices exist, stop acting as if they don't.


Can you name the league where you have local high level competition?


If you think the dilution of ECNL and GA clubs is high level competition I will go a step further and say that no real "high level" of competition exists in the area.

You either want to play soccer or showcase. If you want to showcase then travel is a part of the deal. If you are not interested in showcasing then find a neighborhood club, play soccer and live in peace.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2021 14:32     Subject: CCL extincting

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I have no problem with the travel as I know what I signed up for but would love a local competitive league with all the talent around here. How do we go about doing that?


After CCL is extinct (possibly next year) maybe you will get your wish.


There is no easy answer, but if more families opted for reason and resisted getting sucked into the youth soccer trap, maybe supply and demand would lead to more options that make sense. I can assure you that your average young soccer player is better off playing in local game or league and spending the them saved from driving messing around with friends or practicing in the back yard that driving hours each way for what is often not a competitive game. The cream will always rise to the top, and if your child is ultra talented, he or she will find their way. You don't need to spend the U-little years driving around.


Again, those choices exist, stop acting as if they don't.


Can you name the league where you have local high level competition?
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2021 14:26     Subject: CCL extincting

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have no problem with the travel as I know what I signed up for but would love a local competitive league with all the talent around here. How do we go about doing that?


After CCL is extinct (possibly next year) maybe you will get your wish.


There is no easy answer, but if more families opted for reason and resisted getting sucked into the youth soccer trap, maybe supply and demand would lead to more options that make sense. I can assure you that your average young soccer player is better off playing in local game or league and spending the them saved from driving messing around with friends or practicing in the back yard that driving hours each way for what is often not a competitive game. The cream will always rise to the top, and if your child is ultra talented, he or she will find their way. You don't need to spend the U-little years driving around.


Again, those choices exist, stop acting as if they don't.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2021 14:20     Subject: Re:CCL extincting

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Anonymous wrote:I would be so thrilled if CCL North folded and NCSL (and EDP) were left standing below ECNL and MLS Next.


You should be. CCL is a money making scam.

NCSL and EDP are the best leagues after ECNL/GA/MLS


NCSL is not a good league.


Overall no but there are a few NCSL D-1 boys u14 and u15 teams that can consistently beat the local ECNL teams.


No there aren't. There are zero NCSL teams which can consistently beat any ECNL teams. There are one or two teams per age group which are on a par with the worst ECNL teams and which would win some games against them, and lose others. They don't even belong on the same field as the better ECNL teams.


!00% both BAC and PAC from NCSL could beat the BRYC u14 b ecnl easily, Also the u14 Team America would beat them too. No doubts.


It's hard to find too many opponents in common - but BRYC and BAC have both player Prince William Pride and Stafford recently. Burke lost 1-2 and 0-1 to Prince William and won 3-2 against Stafford. BRYC beat Stafford 1-0 and Prince William 3-2. From those results it appears to me that the teams are similar in ability, with BRYC perhaps having the edge.

On the other hand youth soccer rankings gives Burke a slightly higher rating 33.63 vs 33.02 so maybe Burke is slightly better. In any event it seems likely that games between the would be good contests with neither side "consistently beating" the other.

But BRYC is the basement dweller of ECNL. The better ECNL teams (Arlington, Richmond, VDA) would consistently beat Burke which would be lucky to win more than one game out of eight against any of them.

Anonymous
Post 04/06/2021 14:05     Subject: CCL extincting

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have no problem with the travel as I know what I signed up for but would love a local competitive league with all the talent around here. How do we go about doing that?


After CCL is extinct (possibly next year) maybe you will get your wish.


There is no easy answer, but if more families opted for reason and resisted getting sucked into the youth soccer trap, maybe supply and demand would lead to more options that make sense. I can assure you that your average young soccer player is better off playing in local game or league and spending the them saved from driving messing around with friends or practicing in the back yard that driving hours each way for what is often not a competitive game. The cream will always rise to the top, and if your child is ultra talented, he or she will find their way. You don't need to spend the U-little years driving around.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2021 13:59     Subject: CCL extincting

Anonymous wrote:I have no problem with the travel as I know what I signed up for but would love a local competitive league with all the talent around here. How do we go about doing that?


After CCL is extinct (possibly next year) maybe you will get your wish.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2021 13:49     Subject: CCL extincting

Anonymous wrote:I have no problem with the travel as I know what I signed up for but would love a local competitive league with all the talent around here. How do we go about doing that?


We don't so stop dreaming about it. the market is what it currently is. Pick the best fit that works for you and your family and move on.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2021 13:47     Subject: CCL extincting

I have no problem with the travel as I know what I signed up for but would love a local competitive league with all the talent around here. How do we go about doing that?