Anonymous
Post 03/23/2021 16:27     Subject: Re:Brother in law and His girlfriend proclaim DH’s family racist this on social media.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Watch the video in the link.
https://www.popbuzz.com/tv-film/news/tiger-king-joe-exotic-n-word-racist-video/


Lemme get this straight OP. You dressed up like this man "Tiger King" who is a reality TV personality and racist to boot. And I am presuming your BIL's common law wife is Black? Yes, you are messed up racist, and so are your other relatives who are asking her to calm down.



No, her SIL is half Korean. Makes no difference. SIL was right, OP did this for Halloween! During a pandemic and didn't bother to see if there was any truth to SIL's claims. The op was offended, insulted and dropped SIL! Who was then attacked by the rest of their "liberal" left wing relatives! LOL!
And OP is still upset as there was no Confederate flag in the play! Well, if there was, she could maybe see what SIL was about!
Must be a troll.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2021 16:24     Subject: Re:Brother in law and His girlfriend proclaim DH’s family racist this on social media.
Anonymous wrote:Watch the video in the link.
https://www.popbuzz.com/tv-film/news/tiger-king-joe-exotic-n-word-racist-video/


Lemme get this straight OP. You dressed up like this man "Tiger King" who is a reality TV personality and racist to boot. And I am presuming your BIL's common law wife is Black? Yes, you are messed up racist, and so are your other relatives who are asking her to calm down.


Anonymous
Post 03/23/2021 15:47     Subject: Brother in law and His girlfriend proclaim DH’s family racist this on social media.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Didn’t mean to post and run-had to work.

No Confederate flags! This is what irks me. This side of the family is extremely progressive. We are all social justice advocates. No one in the family is a Trumper or even a conservative. No one has made racial comments about anything it was simply the tiger King costume and my silence in explaining it. Also, the fact that nobody wanted to engage in large conversations over text about racial injustice. Frankly, they have no kids they have jobs as starving artists. They never ask anything about the family beyond wanting to talk race . The rest of the family have kids have lost jobs and are trying to see our way through a pandemic. Yes social justice and racial injustice are important but it is not our 24 hour gig as it is their’s.

I don’t believe anybody has ever made a comment to her about anything offensive but then again I am not her and I don’t walk in her shoes so I understand this part now. It’s been hard though to see the shaming of a family when I don’t think that it is justified. Again though I guess it’s not up to me to determine if it is justified or not. The costume consisted of a Hawaiian shirt and a blond mullet wig. I dressed as the Carol lady with a floral crown. Yes, we are all white.

It’s very convenient for white people that they can choose to just not discuss racism and then go about their lives like nothing is happening. Racism is a daily experience for your SIL, and yet no one in your family seems to have the slightest interest in understanding where she’s coming from or how it affects her. You are not as progressive as you think you are, OP.


I'm Asian too. Stop that. She's crazy to pretend this costume is racist. Of course it's not, even if the person in question is racist. There is a difference between wearing a costume from a TV show about trainwreck-type people and their tigers; and signaling that by dressing up as this person, she's also supporting racist beliefs because he happened to have said racist things that were later cut from the show and that very few people actually know about! I mean, come on. I've never seen this show, I'm not on social media, I couldn't pick this Tiger King person out of a line-up... like most people in the USA.


Oh dear Japanese pp, stop the pretense! Japanese people are some of the worst racists in the world! And you are showing us why!
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2021 15:30     Subject: Brother in law and His girlfriend proclaim DH’s family racist this on social media.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Joe Exotic used strong racist language while filming the doc. It was cut out. He is a racist. You dressed up as a racist.


So, if all I saw was the documentary, and not any of the stuff on social media, I wouldn't know that he used this kind of language? So I might not be aware that he was such a racist? Would I still be racist if I dressed up like him, not knowing about the rants and offensive language?

Like, instead of saying that OP is racist, why not point out, "Hey, you might not know this, but JE uses really graphic, offensive, and racist language. They cut it out of the documentary, but there are lots of videos of him saying truly awful things." Then OP and her husband, if they are normal, decent people, would say, "Oh, wow, no, I didn't know. We definitely won't be dressing up like him again! Thanks for telling us; I think we'll take down the photo." Instead of "He's racist, so you're racist."


Well, I wrote, "you dressed up as a racist." I did not call op racist. Her SIL did.


You are aware that most people in the recent past were racist. It was taught at school and believed as gospel that different races had inherently different attributes and that the white race was the most successful economically, culturally, and morally (Christianity was the only recognized moral standard). I've seen my French grandmother's school textbooks, and even those of my mother. You should also know that non-whites are racist against each other (the paler you are the better), and that some of your beloved political, literary, religious and scientific leaders of the Western world, the USA included, were racist, even though most did not own slaves.

So when you dress up as a figure from the past, you are dressing up as a racist by default.

Also, ALL of these people were misogynist. Don't dress up as one either, PP!




Not in my country. We learned that all people are equal, human beings, and that the slavery that was present in the Western World has been one of the worst things ins the world. Further, we learned that countries that call themselves democratic, but enforce racial discrimination and had slavery, now or in the past, can never be democratic.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2021 15:06     Subject: Brother in law and His girlfriend proclaim DH’s family racist this on social media.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You are racist op, and ignorant about being racist. Just bcs you don't think you are racist, doesn't mean you are not.


Please enlighten us as to how on earth the OP is racist.

OP, this is why social media is so toxic. The good news is that she and BIL are exposing themselves for the idiots they are. You don't need to say a word. Just let it all play out. The more they post, the more people see they're ridiculous.

I'm part Japanese. I have no problem with geisha costumes or any other depiction of Asian people at Halloween. Some microaggressions can be really burdensome, but this isn't one of them.


I posted links above! They dressed up as a confirmed racist. Caught on film, you can see it all over YouTube. Would you dress as a person that is known for hate speech towards Japanese people?


At a costume party, possibly! You realize that most historical figures were racist and/or misogynist? Japanese leaders were also racist and responsible for terrible acts of murder and cruelty.

Again, it's just costume.

Still are. As are you.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2021 15:04     Subject: Brother in law and His girlfriend proclaim DH’s family racist this on social media.
LOL! I am the one that pointed out JE is a racist.
But, I do find it slightly weird that this Korean American is so enlightened! Many of her former homeland people are most raging nationalist and racist around!
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2021 14:58     Subject: Brother in law and His girlfriend proclaim DH’s family racist this on social media.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Didn’t mean to post and run-had to work.

No Confederate flags! This is what irks me. This side of the family is extremely progressive. We are all social justice advocates. No one in the family is a Trumper or even a conservative. No one has made racial comments about anything it was simply the tiger King costume and my silence in explaining it. Also, the fact that nobody wanted to engage in large conversations over text about racial injustice. Frankly, they have no kids they have jobs as starving artists. They never ask anything about the family beyond wanting to talk race . The rest of the family have kids have lost jobs and are trying to see our way through a pandemic. Yes social justice and racial injustice are important but it is not our 24 hour gig as it is their’s.

I don’t believe anybody has ever made a comment to her about anything offensive but then again I am not her and I don’t walk in her shoes so I understand this part now. It’s been hard though to see the shaming of a family when I don’t think that it is justified. Again though I guess it’s not up to me to determine if it is justified or not. The costume consisted of a Hawaiian shirt and a blond mullet wig. I dressed as the Carol lady with a floral crown. Yes, we are all white.

It’s very convenient for white people that they can choose to just not discuss racism and then go about their lives like nothing is happening. Racism is a daily experience for your SIL, and yet no one in your family seems to have the slightest interest in understanding where she’s coming from or how it affects her. You are not as progressive as you think you are, OP.


I'm Asian too. Stop that. She's crazy to pretend this costume is racist. Of course it's not, even if the person in question is racist. There is a difference between wearing a costume from a TV show about trainwreck-type people and their tigers; and signaling that by dressing up as this person, she's also supporting racist beliefs because he happened to have said racist things that were later cut from the show and that very few people actually know about! I mean, come on. I've never seen this show, I'm not on social media, I couldn't pick this Tiger King person out of a line-up... like most people in the USA.

Anonymous
Post 03/23/2021 14:56     Subject: Brother in law and His girlfriend proclaim DH’s family racist this on social media.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Didn’t mean to post and run-had to work.

No Confederate flags! This is what irks me. This side of the family is extremely progressive. We are all social justice advocates. No one in the family is a Trumper or even a conservative. No one has made racial comments about anything it was simply the tiger King costume and my silence in explaining it. Also, the fact that nobody wanted to engage in large conversations over text about racial injustice. Frankly, they have no kids they have jobs as starving artists. They never ask anything about the family beyond wanting to talk race . The rest of the family have kids have lost jobs and are trying to see our way through a pandemic. Yes social justice and racial injustice are important but it is not our 24 hour gig as it is their’s.

I don’t believe anybody has ever made a comment to her about anything offensive but then again I am not her and I don’t walk in her shoes so I understand this part now. It’s been hard though to see the shaming of a family when I don’t think that it is justified. Again though I guess it’s not up to me to determine if it is justified or not. The costume consisted of a Hawaiian shirt and a blond mullet wig. I dressed as the Carol lady with a floral crown. Yes, we are all white.

It’s very convenient for white people that they can choose to just not discuss racism and then go about their lives like nothing is happening. Racism is a daily experience for your SIL, and yet no one in your family seems to have the slightest interest in understanding where she’s coming from or how it affects her. You are not as progressive as you think you are, OP.

DP. And when we was informed that JE is a racist... she acknowledged what? Where is the post that she will call SIL and explain her ignorance? Nope. Instead, OP acted like the offended party! This is why we have a country on the brink of violence! Some white people have accepted, in their head, and all imagined! that they are victims! That is the most dangerous kind of narrative to adopt, and they are armed.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2021 14:54     Subject: Brother in law and His girlfriend proclaim DH’s family racist this on social media.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Joe Exotic used strong racist language while filming the doc. It was cut out. He is a racist. You dressed up as a racist.


So, if all I saw was the documentary, and not any of the stuff on social media, I wouldn't know that he used this kind of language? So I might not be aware that he was such a racist? Would I still be racist if I dressed up like him, not knowing about the rants and offensive language?

Like, instead of saying that OP is racist, why not point out, "Hey, you might not know this, but JE uses really graphic, offensive, and racist language. They cut it out of the documentary, but there are lots of videos of him saying truly awful things." Then OP and her husband, if they are normal, decent people, would say, "Oh, wow, no, I didn't know. We definitely won't be dressing up like him again! Thanks for telling us; I think we'll take down the photo." Instead of "He's racist, so you're racist."


Well, I wrote, "you dressed up as a racist." I did not call op racist. Her SIL did.


You are aware that most people in the recent past were racist. It was taught at school and believed as gospel that different races had inherently different attributes and that the white race was the most successful economically, culturally, and morally (Christianity was the only recognized moral standard). I've seen my French grandmother's school textbooks, and even those of my mother. You should also know that non-whites are racist against each other (the paler you are the better), and that some of your beloved political, literary, religious and scientific leaders of the Western world, the USA included, were racist, even though most did not own slaves.

So when you dress up as a figure from the past, you are dressing up as a racist by default.

Also, ALL of these people were misogynist. Don't dress up as one either, PP!



Anonymous
Post 03/23/2021 14:52     Subject: Brother in law and His girlfriend proclaim DH’s family racist this on social media.
Anonymous wrote:Didn’t mean to post and run-had to work.

No Confederate flags! This is what irks me. This side of the family is extremely progressive. We are all social justice advocates. No one in the family is a Trumper or even a conservative. No one has made racial comments about anything it was simply the tiger King costume and my silence in explaining it. Also, the fact that nobody wanted to engage in large conversations over text about racial injustice. Frankly, they have no kids they have jobs as starving artists. They never ask anything about the family beyond wanting to talk race . The rest of the family have kids have lost jobs and are trying to see our way through a pandemic. Yes social justice and racial injustice are important but it is not our 24 hour gig as it is their’s.

I don’t believe anybody has ever made a comment to her about anything offensive but then again I am not her and I don’t walk in her shoes so I understand this part now. It’s been hard though to see the shaming of a family when I don’t think that it is justified. Again though I guess it’s not up to me to determine if it is justified or not. The costume consisted of a Hawaiian shirt and a blond mullet wig. I dressed as the Carol lady with a floral crown. Yes, we are all white.

How are you progressive if you dressed like a guy/ gal from a show that shoots horses and tiger cubs in the head? Who drugged his husband and made him so crazy he killed himself?
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2021 14:51     Subject: Brother in law and His girlfriend proclaim DH’s family racist this on social media.
Anonymous wrote:Didn’t mean to post and run-had to work.

No Confederate flags! This is what irks me. This side of the family is extremely progressive. We are all social justice advocates. No one in the family is a Trumper or even a conservative. No one has made racial comments about anything it was simply the tiger King costume and my silence in explaining it. Also, the fact that nobody wanted to engage in large conversations over text about racial injustice. Frankly, they have no kids they have jobs as starving artists. They never ask anything about the family beyond wanting to talk race . The rest of the family have kids have lost jobs and are trying to see our way through a pandemic. Yes social justice and racial injustice are important but it is not our 24 hour gig as it is their’s.

I don’t believe anybody has ever made a comment to her about anything offensive but then again I am not her and I don’t walk in her shoes so I understand this part now. It’s been hard though to see the shaming of a family when I don’t think that it is justified. Again though I guess it’s not up to me to determine if it is justified or not. The costume consisted of a Hawaiian shirt and a blond mullet wig. I dressed as the Carol lady with a floral crown. Yes, we are all white.

So, after seeing posts that JE is a raging racist, this is what you post? Why are you trying to stir trouble here?
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2021 14:48     Subject: Brother in law and His girlfriend proclaim DH’s family racist this on social media.
Anonymous wrote:I suspect that OP and her husband aren't as innocent as they pretend to be, but it's also possible that it was other family members who really threw the fuel on the fire. Like, OP could have just explained the costume and said that she didn't realize it would be offensive. But instead, it sounds like OP and her husband just left without saying anything, and the rest of the family attacked the BIL/girlfriend. And then it just kept festering, and everyone probably took turns adding to it with more accusations and insults. The BIL/GF shouldn't lie about the family's actions, but I think everyone needs to learn better ways of managing conflict.

Spot on. Who dresses like white racist killer of animals? White trash? Oh, no did I just racially profile OP? No doubt, she is a Trumper who wants to stir trouble, here and with SIL if she is a real person.
I hope this is actually SIL posting! We do have pp like that.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2021 14:46     Subject: Re:Brother in law and His girlfriend proclaim DH’s family racist this on social media.
Anonymous wrote:People on this thread are nuts. Maybe the tiger king is a racist but it’s not like that’s his primary claim to fame and why people are choosing to dress up like (mock) him. He’s famous for being a crazy loon who kept tigers in captivity, got in a feud with another tiger obsessed person and made a music video about her feeding her husband to a tiger. Amidst all the crazy I doubt the racist comments were even on most people’s radar. These are probably the same people who would say kids shouldn’t dress up like George Washington for a history project because it’s promoting slavery.

Well, if they watched the documentary there are accusations that JE shot tigers in the head, and buried them. Even pups when they got too big. And the story that he promised a woman that he will take care of her horse and make sure he is happy. Minutes after she left he shot the horse in the head and fed him to tigers.
Apart from being racist, JE is a terrible, cruel person that kept his lover on drugs. I think people who think it is funny to dress like a such a horrible person, are likely not at all in tune with what could be perceived as racist, insensitive or offensive. No doubt, OP posted this to stir trouble here.
The reason we have argument about what is racist and what is not is that many people are not aware how their words or actions might sound and appear racist, even if that was not their intention.
OP is likely a troll who wanted to stir trouble and a polemic here about race issues. If she is not where is she now? Did she update?
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2021 14:40     Subject: Brother in law and His girlfriend proclaim DH’s family racist this on social media.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Joe Exotic used strong racist language while filming the doc. It was cut out. He is a racist. You dressed up as a racist.


So, if all I saw was the documentary, and not any of the stuff on social media, I wouldn't know that he used this kind of language? So I might not be aware that he was such a racist? Would I still be racist if I dressed up like him, not knowing about the rants and offensive language?

Like, instead of saying that OP is racist, why not point out, "Hey, you might not know this, but JE uses really graphic, offensive, and racist language. They cut it out of the documentary, but there are lots of videos of him saying truly awful things." Then OP and her husband, if they are normal, decent people, would say, "Oh, wow, no, I didn't know. We definitely won't be dressing up like him again! Thanks for telling us; I think we'll take down the photo." Instead of "He's racist, so you're racist."


Well, I wrote, "you dressed up as a racist." I did not call op racist. Her SIL did.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2021 12:39     Subject: Brother in law and His girlfriend proclaim DH’s family racist this on social media.
Anonymous wrote:Didn’t mean to post and run-had to work.

No Confederate flags! This is what irks me. This side of the family is extremely progressive. We are all social justice advocates. No one in the family is a Trumper or even a conservative. No one has made racial comments about anything it was simply the tiger King costume and my silence in explaining it. Also, the fact that nobody wanted to engage in large conversations over text about racial injustice. Frankly, they have no kids they have jobs as starving artists. They never ask anything about the family beyond wanting to talk race . The rest of the family have kids have lost jobs and are trying to see our way through a pandemic. Yes social justice and racial injustice are important but it is not our 24 hour gig as it is their’s.

I don’t believe anybody has ever made a comment to her about anything offensive but then again I am not her and I don’t walk in her shoes so I understand this part now. It’s been hard though to see the shaming of a family when I don’t think that it is justified. Again though I guess it’s not up to me to determine if it is justified or not. The costume consisted of a Hawaiian shirt and a blond mullet wig. I dressed as the Carol lady with a floral crown. Yes, we are all white.

It’s very convenient for white people that they can choose to just not discuss racism and then go about their lives like nothing is happening. Racism is a daily experience for your SIL, and yet no one in your family seems to have the slightest interest in understanding where she’s coming from or how it affects her. You are not as progressive as you think you are, OP.