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Anonymous wrote:Again, it is not woke to refuse to acknowledge that little girls should not be in Rock Creek Park after dark. This is not giving a pass to would be rapists. This is acknowledging the reality of the world we live in. It is possible to keep these two ideas in your head at the same time: 1) women and girls should not have to worry about their safety at all times and it is not their fault when men attack them, and 2) men often attack girls and women after dark, especially on trails, so it is not safe to be there. I wish it were safe and worry for my daughters as they become teens. I also am a feminist. But I don’t let them walk in parks after dark, nor do I encourage them to feel safe under those circumstances. I also will tell them not to get wasted around strange men, not to get into cars with men under many circumstances, etc. That is not victim blaming. It is living in reality. Until men provide otherwise, we have to assume they will take advantage. It’s not our fault, but we can’t make these situations safe, so we have to continue to avoid them. It’s infuriating.

Again, nobody is saying that we shouldn’t teach our kids about this stuff and I do talk about it.

However, this is a 13 year old girl. Maybe she was heading home at the time, and ran a little late. It was barely past sunset, so it’s not like she was roaming around late at night.

Not to mention that some 13 year olds make mistakes. Does she ‘deserve’ to be groped? No way.

Who said she deserved it? I said it’s part of the sad reality of this world. She certainly didn’t deserve it. Believing in reality is not the same thing as thinking things are as they SHOULD be.

Taken from a University website (it sounds like some of you are far from "woke"):

Rape Culture, Victim Blaming, And The Facts

What is Rape Culture?

Rape Culture is an environment in which rape is prevalent and in which sexual violence is normalized and excused in the media and popular culture. Rape culture is perpetuated through the use of misogynistic language, the objectification of women’s bodies, and the glamorization of sexual violence, thereby creating a society that disregards women’s rights and safety.

Examples of Rape Culture

Blaming the victim (“She asked for it!”)
Trivializing sexual assault (“Boys will be boys!”)
Sexually explicit jokes
Tolerance of sexual harassment
Inflating false rape report statistics
Publicly scrutinizing a victim’s dress, mental state, motives, and history
Gratuitous gendered violence in movies and television
Defining “manhood” as dominant and sexually aggressive
Defining “womanhood” as submissive and sexually passive
Pressure on men to “score”
Pressure on women to not appear “cold”
Assuming only promiscuous women get raped
Assuming that men don’t get raped or that only “weak” men get raped
Refusing to take rape accusations seriously
Teaching women to avoid getting raped

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Anonymous wrote:No one in my house goes walking alone or without having a phone, mask, pepper spray on hand.

All this free ranging is very dangerous especially now.

The chances a man would wrestle a pepper spray from a young girl and use it against her are high. Why would a 13 year old girl be in the park after dark??

You are an asshole, victim-blaming piece of crap.

This is not victim-blaming. It's just teaching our kids to be smart. I know a brave woman who jogs alone on trails, whether they are deserted or not. She now jogs with a gun. I think that is a little crazy, but at least she's not being naive.

PP was absolutely victim-blaming.

Yes. We need to reach out kids to be careful. But the girl was walking close to her home, at 6:45. Not midnight.

Asking why a 13 year old girl was in a park? That is blaming the victim.

+1

So much victim blaming. It’s disgusting.

They’re brainwashed. Society has told them to blame women and that’s what they do.

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Anonymous wrote:No one in my house goes walking alone or without having a phone, mask, pepper spray on hand.

All this free ranging is very dangerous especially now.

The chances a man would wrestle a pepper spray from a young girl and use it against her are high. Why would a 13 year old girl be in the park after dark??

You are an asshole, victim-blaming piece of crap.

This is not victim-blaming. It's just teaching our kids to be smart. I know a brave woman who jogs alone on trails, whether they are deserted or not. She now jogs with a gun. I think that is a little crazy, but at least she's not being naive.

PP was absolutely victim-blaming.

Yes. We need to reach out kids to be careful. But the girl was walking close to her home, at 6:45. Not midnight.

Asking why a 13 year old girl was in a park? That is blaming the victim.

+1

So much victim blaming. It’s disgusting.

There is a lot of guessing and projecting going on here. Remember we have very, very little information about what actually happened here.

Anonymous wrote:Again, it is not woke to refuse to acknowledge that little girls should not be in Rock Creek Park after dark. This is not giving a pass to would be rapists. This is acknowledging the reality of the world we live in. It is possible to keep these two ideas in your head at the same time: 1) women and girls should not have to worry about their safety at all times and it is not their fault when men attack them, and 2) men often attack girls and women after dark, especially on trails, so it is not safe to be there. I wish it were safe and worry for my daughters as they become teens. I also am a feminist. But I don’t let them walk in parks after dark, nor do I encourage them to feel safe under those circumstances. I also will tell them not to get wasted around strange men, not to get into cars with men under many circumstances, etc. That is not victim blaming. It is living in reality. Until men provide otherwise, we have to assume they will take advantage. It’s not our fault, but we can’t make these situations safe, so we have to continue to avoid them. It’s infuriating.

Again, nobody is saying that we shouldn’t teach our kids about this stuff and I do talk about it.

However, this is a 13 year old girl. Maybe she was heading home at the time, and ran a little late. It was barely past sunset, so it’s not like she was roaming around late at night.

Not to mention that some 13 year olds make mistakes. Does she ‘deserve’ to be groped? No way.

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Anonymous wrote:No one in my house goes walking alone or without having a phone, mask, pepper spray on hand.

All this free ranging is very dangerous especially now.

The chances a man would wrestle a pepper spray from a young girl and use it against her are high. Why would a 13 year old girl be in the park after dark??

You are an asshole, victim-blaming piece of crap.

This is not victim-blaming. It's just teaching our kids to be smart. I know a brave woman who jogs alone on trails, whether they are deserted or not. She now jogs with a gun. I think that is a little crazy, but at least she's not being naive.

PP was absolutely victim-blaming.

Yes. We need to reach out kids to be careful. But the girl was walking close to her home, at 6:45. Not midnight.

Asking why a 13 year old girl was in a park? That is blaming the victim.

I’m curious why anyone believes Rock Creek Park is safe?

Maybe it’s because I’m a lifelong local, but I feel it’s common knowledge that women have been assaulted and even murdered in RCP. Google it.

The sad part is this stuff happens in daylight, too.

Again, it is not woke to refuse to acknowledge that little girls should not be in Rock Creek Park after dark. This is not giving a pass to would be rapists. This is acknowledging the reality of the world we live in. It is possible to keep these two ideas in your head at the same time: 1) women and girls should not have to worry about their safety at all times and it is not their fault when men attack them, and 2) men often attack girls and women after dark, especially on trails, so it is not safe to be there. I wish it were safe and worry for my daughters as they become teens. I also am a feminist. But I don’t let them walk in parks after dark, nor do I encourage them to feel safe under those circumstances. I also will tell them not to get wasted around strange men, not to get into cars with men under many circumstances, etc. That is not victim blaming. It is living in reality. Until men provide otherwise, we have to assume they will take advantage. It’s not our fault, but we can’t make these situations safe, so we have to continue to avoid them. It’s infuriating.

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Anonymous wrote:No one in my house goes walking alone or without having a phone, mask, pepper spray on hand.

All this free ranging is very dangerous especially now.

The chances a man would wrestle a pepper spray from a young girl and use it against her are high. Why would a 13 year old girl be in the park after dark??

You are an asshole, victim-blaming piece of crap.

This is not victim-blaming. It's just teaching our kids to be smart. I know a brave woman who jogs alone on trails, whether they are deserted or not. She now jogs with a gun. I think that is a little crazy, but at least she's not being naive.

PP was absolutely victim-blaming.

Yes. We need to reach out kids to be careful. But the girl was walking close to her home, at 6:45. Not midnight.

Asking why a 13 year old girl was in a park? That is blaming the victim.

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Anonymous wrote:No one in my house goes walking alone or without having a phone, mask, pepper spray on hand.

All this free ranging is very dangerous especially now.

The chances a man would wrestle a pepper spray from a young girl and use it against her are high. Why would a 13 year old girl be in the park after dark??

You are an asshole, victim-blaming piece of crap.

This is not victim-blaming. It's just teaching our kids to be smart. I know a brave woman who jogs alone on trails, whether they are deserted or not. She now jogs with a gun. I think that is a little crazy, but at least she's not being naive.

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And two years ago, a teen BOY was sexually assaulted by a man just outside the Bethesda Metro station.

What I don't understand is why so many people want to hurt others. They should either go to jail for a really long time, or accept some kind of castrating medication that dampens their urges.

And boys who are sexually abused typically go on to become sexual predators themselves. So we already know what future awaits that kid. Hopefully LE will keep close tabs on him.

Typically? No.

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And two years ago, a teen BOY was sexually assaulted by a man just outside the Bethesda Metro station.

What I don't understand is why so many people want to hurt others. They should either go to jail for a really long time, or accept some kind of castrating medication that dampens their urges.

And boys who are sexually abused typically go on to become sexual predators themselves. So we already know what future awaits that kid. Hopefully LE will keep close tabs on him.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't police female behavior. Tell your sons to stop attacking women. Heck, start telling your sons they can't be outside after sundown.

I'm sure a bunch of "boy moms" are going to bitch at me, but it's interesting how we think girls need to police their behavior but when it comes to boys we all shrug and say it's normal. If you don't want your son to sexually assault someone stop letting him out by himself at night.

Are you for real? What’s with the antagonism toward ‘boy moms’?

Maybe you should go find this young man’s mom and tell her she was a poor parent.

This man was in his 20s.

This has nothing to do with moms on DCUM letting their 13 year old boys ride bikes in the neighborhood.

13 year old boys riding bikes right now grow up be the 20 year old men that are attacking our daughters in 7 years.

Wow. If you actually believe that, that is incredibly sad. Do you really think every 13 year old boy will potentially be an attacker?

Every male has the capacity to be a rapist. Every. Single. One.

Even your little 13 year old on his bike.

Wow. Seek help. You are insane.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't police female behavior. Tell your sons to stop attacking women. Heck, start telling your sons they can't be outside after sundown.

I'm sure a bunch of "boy moms" are going to bitch at me, but it's interesting how we think girls need to police their behavior but when it comes to boys we all shrug and say it's normal. If you don't want your son to sexually assault someone stop letting him out by himself at night.

Are you for real? What’s with the antagonism toward ‘boy moms’?

Maybe you should go find this young man’s mom and tell her she was a poor parent.

This man was in his 20s.

This has nothing to do with moms on DCUM letting their 13 year old boys ride bikes in the neighborhood.

13 year old boys riding bikes right now grow up be the 20 year old men that are attacking our daughters in 7 years.

Wow. If you actually believe that, that is incredibly sad. Do you really think every 13 year old boy will potentially be an attacker?

Every male has the capacity to be a rapist. Every. Single. One.

Even your little 13 year old on his bike.

Wow. You’re either a troll or effed up beyond belief.