Anonymous
Post 03/16/2021 01:49     Subject: Nanny wants three days off for 2nd vaccine
I’m a nanny and technically could have worked after getting my second shot, but after a year of WAH parents I told my boss I was too ill to come in. I was sick from thr parents not the shot!! I never ever call in sick. It’s been years. But I just needed a break. Your nanny probably needs one too, anx you need to give it to her so she doesn’t end up quitting. Asking for 3 days off is crazy and that tells me she’s totally burned out. Let her have time off or else you’re going to be looking for a new nanny.
Anonymous
Post 03/07/2021 19:32     Subject: Re:Nanny wants three days off for 2nd vaccine
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You should give it to her. No questions asked. She is entitled to it. I would not try and compromise on it. Look up DC Sick and Safe Leave Act. It was also amended in October, 2020 to include COVID related scenarios.

Clearly you have a good and personal relationship with your nanny, which is great. But when it comes to employee time off requests any conversation or reworking of an employees request needs to occur within the confines of their time off rights.

No she isn't! What about the rest of us who get the vaccines and then wait and see what happens? Some people sail through without a problem. Some have a problem with a second one. Some have a problem with the first one. Even my 87 year old MIL sailed right through. Of course, the nanny might not be honest after getting it but OP should say "we need you; let's see how you feel". THREE DAYS! No!


She is entitled to use her PTO, which OP says she has available to her and has used zero days over a year. So yes. She is entitled to use her benefits.
Anonymous
Post 03/07/2021 19:23     Subject: Nanny wants three days off for 2nd vaccine
No - you are being ridiculous and selfish - my lord. I definitely felt bad for 36 hours after mine. I told our caregiver to let us know how she was feeling the day after and we would take a sick/family day. She texted that morning that she was fine but when I came to pick them up I could tell she was feeling weak and I feel kind of bad I didn’t insist more.
Anonymous
Post 03/07/2021 18:28     Subject: Re:Nanny wants three days off for 2nd vaccine
Anonymous wrote:OP here. It’s true our nanny has never once called in sick in two years. And yes, for the last year due to covid, she hasn’t taken any vacation except paid holidays. We have a toddler and a baby. She unquestionably has the PTO coming and I’m not denying her that. Yes, I’m sure she’s afraid to be or feel sick here rather than home.

It’s the timing. DH and I both have huge work commitments this month and our toddler is in a real nanny-only phase. With the new baby, this will definitely be hard not to see her for five days.

Would it really be so wrong to ask her just to play it by ear and see how she feels? We’ll take over the instant she starts feeling poorly as we’re both home. And she lives just a mile a way and can drive those days in five minutes.


OP, please read what you wrote here. I pray that this is a troll post.
Anonymous
Post 03/07/2021 09:20     Subject: Re:Nanny wants three days off for 2nd vaccine
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a healthcare provider who was vaccinated at the same time as many others in my practice setting. Two days is adequate. The first 24 hours is when most of my colleagues and I had immune responses, some stronger than others. More than half of us had to use unexpected liberal leave because we were sidelined by the second dose (Pfizer/BioNTech, FWIW).

I had a fever, chills, severe body aches, and nausea/dry heaving with no appetite and needed about 36 hours to feel somewhat normal. It was a combination of feeling like I'd gotten into a fight, had a bad hangover, and was postpartum day 1 after a rough delivery (all things I'd previously experienced).

Assume she will feel like garbage the first day and will need a second day to recover.


If OP’s nanny has the days coming to her, it’s not for OP or YOU to say what’s adequate. She may take her time as she wishes.


I believe the third day is a weekend.
Anonymous
Post 03/07/2021 08:41     Subject: Nanny wants three days off for 2nd vaccine
I'm a nanny. We don't like to take time off because we know very well how it effects our employers. That being said I feel that way because my boss would encourage me to stay home if I didn't feel well and probably pay me without counting it towards PTO. Nannies being vaccinated is a GOOD thing OP and if nannies feel that they will be penalized in some way for getting it they may think twice. The fact that she actually has the PTO and is willing to use it to recover from a vaccine that keeps not just her safe but to some extent your family safe as well is very responsible on her part. I understand it will be tough for you but I think you need to focus on the big picture here.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2021 19:27     Subject: Nanny wants three days off for 2nd vaccine
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope she has a mild reaction and is able to use those two days to find a new employer.


+1

Yep


Agree! I have a friend who’d love to hire her!
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2021 19:13     Subject: Nanny wants three days off for 2nd vaccine
Anonymous wrote:I hope she has a mild reaction and is able to use those two days to find a new employer.


+1

Yep
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2021 18:19     Subject: Nanny wants three days off for 2nd vaccine
I hope she has a mild reaction and is able to use those two days to find a new employer.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2021 18:11     Subject: Re:Nanny wants three days off for 2nd vaccine
Also I just have to say, your posting this makes me suspicious that you are a very difficult boss. I’d love to have a conversation with your nanny, to hear her take on you. I wonder how she would feel if she knew you were actually contemplating refusing her sick leave for this reason.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2021 16:26     Subject: Nanny wants three days off for 2nd vaccine
Anonymous wrote:Our nanny is never sick but has asked that she take three days off when she gets the second vaccine shot for fear of being sick. She’ll be off for the day of the inoculation as well as the two following days and then the weekend.

It’s going to be really, really hard for us right now with working from home but she definitely has the time coming. And our toddler will have a hard time without her. How can we compromise on this?


The advisement of vaccine makers is to have no plans or flexible plans for two days following the second dose vaccine. If she has the time coming, it’s a legitimate use of time off and you need to accommodate it.

I felt miserable for a day and a half following my 2nd dose. You wouldn’t have wanted me caring for your child. Try to put common sense ahead of your annoyance at the inconvenience this causes you.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2021 16:24     Subject: Nanny wants three days off for 2nd vaccine
What’s her contact info, OP?
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2021 15:25     Subject: Nanny wants three days off for 2nd vaccine
You can say no, but be prepared for her to leave within the month. There are SO many people looking for good nannies right now, she could get a new job in two weeks and walk away.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2021 15:25     Subject: Re:Nanny wants three days off for 2nd vaccine
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You should give it to her. No questions asked. She is entitled to it. I would not try and compromise on it. Look up DC Sick and Safe Leave Act. It was also amended in October, 2020 to include COVID related scenarios.

Clearly you have a good and personal relationship with your nanny, which is great. But when it comes to employee time off requests any conversation or reworking of an employees request needs to occur within the confines of their time off rights.

No she isn't! What about the rest of us who get the vaccines and then wait and see what happens? Some people sail through without a problem. Some have a problem with a second one. Some have a problem with the first one. Even my 87 year old MIL sailed right through. Of course, the nanny might not be honest after getting it but OP should say "we need you; let's see how you feel". THREE DAYS! No!


Such selfish perspectives -- from people who, like the OP, surely took weeks, if not months of maternity leave. Wow.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2021 15:22     Subject: Nanny wants three days off for 2nd vaccine
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow. Imagine if you had to deal with an actual emergency? And may your boss treat you the way you treat your nanny.

Are most bosses allowing three days off for a vaccine? Mine sure wasn’t.


If one of my staff gave me enough notice that they were going to take the day off to get their shot and was planning to take an additional two days off to recover and relax, I would say "thanks for letting me know, I hope it goes well, and enjoy your time off, you deserve it!"

My team works hard, and as long as they give me some notice so that I can reschedule anything that might be affected, I'm fine with taking their time off. They earned it, it's part of their benefits package, who am I to say no or try to get them to "compromise".