Anonymous wrote:Go outside and get his attention, ask him if he needs anything.

Please don’t this, OP.

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IT IS ILLEGAL TO IDLE A CAR FOR MORE THAN 5 MINUTES AND 3 MINUTES IN MD AND DC, RESPECTIVELY. Except in less than 32 degree weather, if stopped in traffic or under mechanical failure.

In VA cars used for public service or for commercial purposes are not allowed to idle in residential areas.

Yeah, we can start with literally every police car out there.

When they stop idling, I’ll stop.

Those engines are actually made to idle longer than normal cars.

Ha ha ha ha ha. Who told you that? You realize they’re the same engine in everyday cars right? There are no special "cop engines"

Not really. Ford, the largest supplier of cop cars, did install special cop engines.

This happened when I was a kid. Guys hanging out in a sedan just watching.

It was the FBI.

Keeping tabs on Stokely Carmichael who was staying with our neighbors.

The Sixties were awesome!

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IT IS ILLEGAL TO IDLE A CAR FOR MORE THAN 5 MINUTES AND 3 MINUTES IN MD AND DC, RESPECTIVELY. Except in less than 32 degree weather, if stopped in traffic or under mechanical failure.

In VA cars used for public service or for commercial purposes are not allowed to idle in residential areas.

Yeah, we can start with literally every police car out there.

When they stop idling, I’ll stop.

Those engines are actually made to idle longer than normal cars.

Ha ha ha ha ha. Who told you that? You realize they’re the same engine in everyday cars right? There are no special "cop engines"

Well, you're wrong. I couldn't remember what my friend called the engine on his mom's car, but looked up police cruiser engines. For calls them "Interceptor" engines today and called them that 55 years ago.

Wow, I'm surprised this thread is still going on. Is the guy still there? What's he peeing in? Is someone bringing him coffee?

I assume the idling cop vehicles is because if you shut off an engine you never can be 100% sure it will start again. As to engines, I know nothing about modern engines and not a lot about engines in general, but a friend has his mother's original 1965 Ford Custom which was bought with an engine (I forget the size/name of the engine but we were looking it up one day) generally used for law enforcement vehicles at the time. I don't know how or why she happened to pick that engine, except that it was the last Ford Custom on the lot that year. I imagine the extra cooling mentioned by one poster also reduces the odds of overheating when idling, especially if AC is running as well.

The claim that the engine shuts down when at a red light was perplexing, so I looked that up. As I understand it (there has been extensive debate about the issue over the years between auto manufacturers and regulators as well as interested parties) about auto shut off--for vehicles idling for extended time periods. Such as when someone is parked idling with heat or AC on. On the other hand, when keyless operation showed up, people died when they left their car idling in the garage for hours after forgetting to shut it off using the key fob.

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IT IS ILLEGAL TO IDLE A CAR FOR MORE THAN 5 MINUTES AND 3 MINUTES IN MD AND DC, RESPECTIVELY. Except in less than 32 degree weather, if stopped in traffic or under mechanical failure.

In VA cars used for public service or for commercial purposes are not allowed to idle in residential areas.

Yeah, we can start with literally every police car out there.

When they stop idling, I’ll stop.

Those engines are actually made to idle longer than normal cars.

Ha ha ha ha ha. Who told you that? You realize they’re the same engine in everyday cars right? There are no special "cop engines"

As a food delivery person, wow, I won't sit in front of anyone else's house anymore between orders. No wonder I keep getting the cops passing me, slowing down and looking at me funny while I am legally parked on the side of the road checking my map or just taking a breather to eat my own food, especially in NW.

Maybe I should go sit in SE from now on? Is that what you want?

Signed,

A black female food delivery worker

Anonymous wrote:I hate the whole Karen thing, but... this is one of the most Karen things I've ever read. He's parked on a public street. So what?

There is no way this guy is white.

If he’s white, maybe he’s part of the planned attack on the Capitol they were reacting to today.

If you see a suspicious white guy, say something.

Modern internal combustion cars automatically shut off the motor when stopped at, e.g. a red traffic signal. BTW, this is a "feature" I cannot stand, but the manufacturers adopted it for alleged fuel economy. Electric vehicles consume only minimal power when stopped. I will defer to gear-heads to explain why idling an engine for a long time is bad. Cops don't care because it's not their car.

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Anonymous wrote:We have a neighbor who leads the neighborhood watch program. His house sits at a point where he can see a lot of the street. If a situation like the one you describe happens he masks up, goes over to the car, knocks on the window (steps back 6 feet) and says in a very polite tone "hey there, do you need help or assistance?" He explains that we're a close neighborhood that watches out for each other. Most of the time it's someone making a call (better to park than to drive while distracted) or something equally innocent. Is it possible for one or two people to approach the car and ask?

This would be my exact approach if I did anything at all.

If the dude showed up a second day I would definitely ask what the deal is.

And when he told you to f**k off, what would you do? Call the cops?

Maybe. I mean, this isn't the Starbucks or a local park's parking lot - which, by the way, are both places that the cops might come and ask you what your deal is. This is a residential street. Part of asking someone what they are doing there in a situation like this is to let them know that people are observing their presence. This is not a foreign concept and we're not talking about someone sitting outside for a half hour or forty five minutes (also a long time) on a phone call or reading a book.

So someone is doing something legal, and not bothering anyone. You ask/demand to know what they are doing, which you have to right to require them to tell you. They, not very politely, refuse to tell you. And for that, you call the police?

This is the literal definition of a Karen. No different, at all, from the dog-walking woman in NYC.

Update us OP!

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IT IS ILLEGAL TO IDLE A CAR FOR MORE THAN 5 MINUTES AND 3 MINUTES IN MD AND DC, RESPECTIVELY. Except in less than 32 degree weather, if stopped in traffic or under mechanical failure.

In VA cars used for public service or for commercial purposes are not allowed to idle in residential areas.

For weeks in January, someone idled outside of Josh Hawley’s house for hours on end (3 shifts a day). All Maryland plates on non-official looking vehicles (Jeep Wrangler, Chevy Trailblazer, etc.). Several of us called the Vienna PD to complain because they were blocking the stop sign, next to the crosswalk, idling, etc. The police repeatedly told us that idling isn’t against the law in Vienna even though we had Fairfax County code stating it is. I’d love to know how to get this enforced because I’m sure it will happen again because Josh Hawley.

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Anonymous wrote:We have a neighbor who leads the neighborhood watch program. His house sits at a point where he can see a lot of the street. If a situation like the one you describe happens he masks up, goes over to the car, knocks on the window (steps back 6 feet) and says in a very polite tone "hey there, do you need help or assistance?" He explains that we're a close neighborhood that watches out for each other. Most of the time it's someone making a call (better to park than to drive while distracted) or something equally innocent. Is it possible for one or two people to approach the car and ask?

This would be my exact approach if I did anything at all.

If the dude showed up a second day I would definitely ask what the deal is.

And when he told you to f**k off, what would you do? Call the cops?

Maybe. I mean, this isn't the Starbucks or a local park's parking lot - which, by the way, are both places that the cops might come and ask you what your deal is. This is a residential street. Part of asking someone what they are doing there in a situation like this is to let them know that people are observing their presence. This is not a foreign concept and we're not talking about someone sitting outside for a half hour or forty five minutes (also a long time) on a phone call or reading a book.

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IT IS ILLEGAL TO IDLE A CAR FOR MORE THAN 5 MINUTES AND 3 MINUTES IN MD AND DC, RESPECTIVELY. Except in less than 32 degree weather, if stopped in traffic or under mechanical failure.

In VA cars used for public service or for commercial purposes are not allowed to idle in residential areas.

Yeah, we can start with literally every police car out there.

When they stop idling, I’ll stop.

Those engines are actually made to idle longer than normal cars.

You’re going to need to back this claim up. I can’t wait to hear it, haha!!!


The only difference between current police cars (called commercial/LE chassis pkg in the industry) and regular cars are: dual batteries, higher output alternator (both for powering more electronics found in LE vehicles) and a larger radiator and transmission cooler (for pursuits/chases), larger brake rotors and calipers (again, for chases) and heavier rear suspension (cop cars always have a bunch of stuff in the trunk). Absolutely none of those things has anything to do with idling.



So let’s hear it. What’s your expertise here? Impress everyone with your knowledge. I can’t wait to hear it.

You are charming. Let me guess-white man?

Basically I was referring to the cooling. Those cars are left idling a lot for a few reasons. I oversaw a private security force and apparently before I got there, they basically put a decal and lights on a regular car. We changed from private to hiring a public police dept and the cops in charge told me the car was not outfitted as a cop car because of the cooling.

Please go back to torturing your wife or coworkers.

Wow, you totally don’t sound like a racist misandrist. Nah.

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Anonymous wrote:
IT IS ILLEGAL TO IDLE A CAR FOR MORE THAN 5 MINUTES AND 3 MINUTES IN MD AND DC, RESPECTIVELY. Except in less than 32 degree weather, if stopped in traffic or under mechanical failure.

In VA cars used for public service or for commercial purposes are not allowed to idle in residential areas.

Yeah, we can start with literally every police car out there.

When they stop idling, I’ll stop.

Those engines are actually made to idle longer than normal cars.

You’re going to need to back this claim up. I can’t wait to hear it, haha!!!


The only difference between current police cars (called commercial/LE chassis pkg in the industry) and regular cars are: dual batteries, higher output alternator (both for powering more electronics found in LE vehicles) and a larger radiator and transmission cooler (for pursuits/chases), larger brake rotors and calipers (again, for chases) and heavier rear suspension (cop cars always have a bunch of stuff in the trunk). Absolutely none of those things has anything to do with idling.



So let’s hear it. What’s your expertise here? Impress everyone with your knowledge. I can’t wait to hear it.

You are charming. Let me guess-white man?

Basically I was referring to the cooling. Those cars are left idling a lot for a few reasons. I oversaw a private security force and apparently before I got there, they basically put a decal and lights on a regular car. We changed from private to hiring a public police dept and the cops in charge told me the car was not outfitted as a cop car because of the cooling.

Please go back to torturing your wife or coworkers.

You’re just trying to look cool and unruffled after the knowledgeable PP called you out. Thanks for the laugh!