Anonymous
Post 03/15/2021 08:53     Subject: E-mail says students and staff can't log in from abroad
We switched to private a while back. My 4th grader has a classmate currently in an African country—kid was apparently visiting pre-pandemic and then was unable to travel back once the pandemic started. Not sure what the issue is, since it’s not intended to be permanent.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2021 07:39     Subject: E-mail says students and staff can't log in from abroad
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DCPS sent an email out this week saying people can't log in from outside of the continental United States anymore unless they their principal or assistant principal fills out some application.

Another layer of red tape for anyone trying to take a trip to Hawaii for an extended spring break it looks like.

Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone knows what prompted this? Was their a cyber security threat and a large number of folks logging in from abroad?


Nah, they can still take the trip. They will just be officially absent. Which is ok. Staff can use leave. Student absences can be excused (or not) by admin.

I think there’s an effort to make sure enrolled students live in the district.

WRT staff, the location should not matter. I teach in another district. I had three days of medical testing at Hopkins recently. A parent who works at Hopkins spotted me. She approached me to about 6 feet away and asked if I was “M_. Whomever”, her teacher’s kid. I replied yes. We chatted briefly about her kid and school in general and then she left. Two days later, my principal emailed to ask me if I had been in Baltimore that day. I said yes. Then he asked why I didn’t take leave. I told him that I taught two classes, attended a meeting, and did my planning/grading at the hospital. His reply was “Okay.” Not “Okay, sorry I bothered you without checking first that you met your obligations that day.” Or “Okay, hope everything works out for you medically.”


That mom's a bitch.


And if she works at Hopkins she should know about patient privacy.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2021 07:25     Subject: E-mail says students and staff can't log in from abroad
Reporting from the beach day # I’ve lost track.

Yesterday was eventful. We found a dead lizard and buried it with a cute little tombstone. The sun was strong in the afternoon so I took a nap while my kids laid under the shade of a palm tree and did something. Probably killed the lizard. Dinner was freshly caught wahoo, which was surprisingly not as amazing as it sounds, but the ice cold beer was acceptable.

This morning I hear the mockingbirds out the window and can’t hear the ocean. Must mean calm seas. The moons been waxing so I wonder if that’s related. Today may be a good kayak day.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2021 15:39     Subject: E-mail says students and staff can't log in from abroad
PP, who the hell cares at this point!!!! Are you kidding me? We are war with covid we were told. WE are in war situation, don't you know? Special times, special rules, everyone knows that. If it's ok not to pay your mortgage or rent for months due to covid, then this should be ok too. People who log in from outside of DC (no matter if within the US or overseas) are doing this because they can provide a better quality of life for their kids and themselves during covid. Many times it is a mental health issue. What can be more important? It has been a year now since both school and my work has gone on-line; no-one can possibly argue that it was in my family's best interest to move out of town where I can family assistance and support. I would not have been able to do this on my own - work full-time from home and DL my two ES kids. Don't be jealous of those of us who were able to arrange a better arrangement for ourselves.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2021 15:14     Subject: Re:E-mail says students and staff can't log in from abroad
The only reason it matters is if the parents end up paying less tax do DC (and to the fed gov) because the parents are physically somewhere else when working.

But that’s a pretty big deal if so.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2021 15:10     Subject: E-mail says students and staff can't log in from abroad
Anonymous wrote:I know a family who has been in Turkey since November that as of today still logs in. Kids adjusted quit well to the time difference.


We have been in Europe since end of Summer.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2021 15:09     Subject: E-mail says students and staff can't log in from abroad
Anonymous wrote:Why are there DCPS students abroad?


Why does it matter where DCPS student is learning from? Same thing if they are sitting in DC at home or anywhere else in the world. Same for me for work.
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2021 20:15     Subject: Re:E-mail says students and staff can't log in from abroad
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how DCPS can prevent students from logging in from abroad.

You can just use a good VPN and you're into Canvas.



You can see VPN connections from outside the country.


No you can’t, that’s the entire point.

You connect to a computer in the Us. That computer connects to DCPS.

A thousand points for such a great explanation for a tech ignoramus like me. Thank you

At my org, we see them. We constantly monitor them. We block them. But ok.


I'm not sure that you have the technical background to understand what you're claiming.

When organizations say they "block VPNs", that typically means they block OUTGOING CONNECTIONS TO VPNS OVER THEIR WIFI, not that they are blocking incoming traffic to public resources like Web sites which happens to come from a VPN IP address. It's trivial for an organization to block people on their local WIFI network from connecting to a VPN service. When my kid was in DCPS, they had not yet figured out how to do that (students used VPNs to get around social media site blocks at high schools), but it's not difficult.

Thats an entirely different task than having a firewall in front of your Web server with rules to block incoming traffic to the Web server from the literally millions of VPN IP addresses public and private throughout the world. Unlike traffic TO A VPN service over local WIFI, there are not spefic ports or protocols to check on inbound traffic to your Website that originates from a VPN. It would just be a different remote host IP address over the same port/protocol as your normal traffic. You would need to know that one particular DC-geolocated IP address is an Express VPN user who is connecting from Spain to an express VNP server in DC and from that DC IP address to your Web server. I doubt your organization is doing that. If they are, then they piss off a lot of people like me who ARE PHYSICALLY IN DC who use Express VPN to connect to your servers from the exact same DC IP address for reasons of privacy/security.
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2021 15:44     Subject: Re:E-mail says students and staff can't log in from abroad
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how DCPS can prevent students from logging in from abroad.

You can just use a good VPN and you're into Canvas.



You can see VPN connections from outside the country.


No you can’t, that’s the entire point.

You connect to a computer in the Us. That computer connects to DCPS.



At my org, we see them. We constantly monitor them. We block them. But ok.


I'm not sure that you have the technical background to understand what you're claiming.

When organizations say they "block VPNs", that typically means they block OUTGOING CONNECTIONS TO VPNS OVER THEIR WIFI, not that they are blocking incoming traffic to public resources like Web sites which happens to come from a VPN IP address. It's trivial for an organization to block people on their local WIFI network from connecting to a VPN service. When my kid was in DCPS, they had not yet figured out how to do that (students used VPNs to get around social media site blocks at high schools), but it's not difficult.

Thats an entirely different task than having a firewall in front of your Web server with rules to block incoming traffic to the Web server from the literally millions of VPN IP addresses public and private throughout the world. Unlike traffic TO A VPN service over local WIFI, there are not spefic ports or protocols to check on inbound traffic to your Website that originates from a VPN. It would just be a different remote host IP address over the same port/protocol as your normal traffic. You would need to know that one particular DC-geolocated IP address is an Express VPN user who is connecting from Spain to an express VNP server in DC and from that DC IP address to your Web server. I doubt your organization is doing that. If they are, then they piss off a lot of people like me who ARE PHYSICALLY IN DC who use Express VPN to connect to your servers from the exact same DC IP address for reasons of privacy/security.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2021 21:41     Subject: E-mail says students and staff can't log in from abroad
Anonymous wrote:I entirely understand and support that kids should attend schools where they live. At the same time, my kids teachers have been teaching from California, Indiana, Kentucky, and one from Mexico where he actually contracted Covid. So...I get the poster's ire.


Wow, I've been teaching from my house and now I wish I could rewind and go abroad.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2021 21:16     Subject: E-mail says students and staff can't log in from abroad
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ok, your kid should be in school not traveling. So, how is this an issue. If you child is on vacation, let the school know.


Because some people moved during the pandemic ?


Oh my actual God. Then they are entitled to public schools in the place they MOVED to, but not the place they MOVED from.



Its a vacation or short term move you weapons grade muppet. Do you pull your kids out of school when you go on spring break? Do you get a new drivers license too?
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2021 07:40     Subject: E-mail says students and staff can't log in from abroad
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sounds remarkably reasonable.


You know what would be reasonable? Opening the damn schools. If they don’t want to open the schools and insist that virtual learning is the same as in person then they can deal with people being abroad


Nope. To utilize public schools, you are required to live (not just own a house/rent) in the school district. They are not required to support you gallavating off on vacation. So sorry. Feel free to homeschool if you don't like the rules.


Yes, open the schools, put the kids' needs first already. Don't hassle parents who are coping with the dearth of in-person learning as best they can, under very difficult circumstances, wherever they are. If you're going to come at these parents, OK, but expect pushback (if just in the form of good VPNs). Come on, hardy anybody is off on vacation, but some parents are tolerating crappy DL out of the city in circumstances more tolerable than within the District. They pay DC taxes. More power to to them.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2021 23:41     Subject: E-mail says students and staff can't log in from abroad
I entirely understand and support that kids should attend schools where they live. At the same time, my kids teachers have been teaching from California, Indiana, Kentucky, and one from Mexico where he actually contracted Covid. So...I get the poster's ire.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2021 23:13     Subject: E-mail says students and staff can't log in from abroad
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ok, your kid should be in school not traveling. So, how is this an issue. If you child is on vacation, let the school know.


Because some people moved during the pandemic ?


Oh my actual God. Then they are entitled to public schools in the place they MOVED to, but not the place they MOVED from.

Anonymous
Post 03/10/2021 23:10     Subject: E-mail says students and staff can't log in from abroad
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sounds remarkably reasonable.


You know what would be reasonable? Opening the damn schools. If they don’t want to open the schools and insist that virtual learning is the same as in person then they can deal with people being abroad


Nope. To utilize public schools, you are required to live (not just own a house/rent) in the school district. They are not required to support you gallavating off on vacation. So sorry. Feel free to homeschool if you don't like the rules.