Anonymous wrote:If it makes any of you feel any better, I’m a DC resident who is going to MD this week to take one of their vaccines from a CVS. I’ve been asked by my agency to get vaccinated, but they are not one of the few agencies to directly distribute shots. DC won’t vaccinate me as a federal employee, “continuity of government” only applies to District government employees.

I’m using a relative’s address in MD and will use my passport and federal agency ID card.

Are you working in person or telecommuting? What do you do?

If it makes any of you feel any better, I’m a DC resident who is going to MD this week to take one of their vaccines from a CVS. I’ve been asked by my agency to get vaccinated, but they are not one of the few agencies to directly distribute shots. DC won’t vaccinate me as a federal employee, “continuity of government” only applies to District government employees.

I’m using a relative’s address in MD and will use my passport and federal agency ID card.

Anonymous wrote:I guess I don't understand how the mayor and council members don't think they will pay a political price for this. they're supposed to represent DC residents.

IDK? It strikes me that the Mayor is playing a long game related to acknowledgement/precedent? Like she is building on her momentum from 1/6 and thinks the Covid Vaccine distribution is a new bargaining chip to continue to build a case for statehood with the Feds/Nation? Except we are going into month 4, and putting DC residents last (plus tech and data collection SNAFUS ) makes DC look ridiculous.

Meanwhile, the Council are just being sheep--probably because they are not tip of the spear and baaa .

I guess I don't understand how the mayor and council members don't think they will pay a political price for this. they're supposed to represent DC residents.

Anonymous wrote:I think it makes sense for front line workers like those in hospital, school, or police/fire station to be vaccinated at work because it could be an effective way to get the most number of people vaccinated. However, I don't understand why DC government is not counting the number of nonresidents we vaccinate here, and MD and VA do the same, and then they trade on number of future doses they get to make it equitable. Because bottom line is if we vaccinate VA and MD residents at a higher rate than the reverse (which I assume is true but don't know for sure), then ultimately VA and MD will have a surplus of vaccine and DC will have deficit. Better to keep it fair and fix unequal distribution as we go. I think asking feds to give more doses kind of misses the point- why are not VA and MD stepping up to plate?

That was the initial plan. Then it all pretty quickly broke down and DC is holding the bag of vaccinating far more MD/VA residents than the other way around. At this point the only equitable way forward is for each state to vaccinate their own residents, which obviously also includes essential workers who can be vaccinated where they live when their phase comes up. The CDC is pretty much begging DC to stop vaccinating folks from other states. It is wreaking havoc on the system they have created which assigns vaccine by population. For example, some people are getting first shot in DC, 2nd in MD. It is throwing everything off. DC needs to stop trying to do the Federal Government's job by vaccinating out of staters and simply motor through DC residents, who, you know, DC represents. The demand is obviously there.

Anonymous wrote:I think it makes sense for front line workers like those in hospital, school, or police/fire station to be vaccinated at work because it could be an effective way to get the most number of people vaccinated. However, I don't understand why DC government is not counting the number of nonresidents we vaccinate here, and MD and VA do the same, and then they trade on number of future doses they get to make it equitable. Because bottom line is if we vaccinate VA and MD residents at a higher rate than the reverse (which I assume is true but don't know for sure), then ultimately VA and MD will have a surplus of vaccine and DC will have deficit. Better to keep it fair and fix unequal distribution as we go. I think asking feds to give more doses kind of misses the point- why are not VA and MD stepping up to plate?

That would take coordination and leadership. Why would we assume that we have any of this present in our city.

Seriously, when do you think the last time the DC Health department sat down with the MD Health and VA Health, let alone the Mayor and respective Governors.

How about this, when do you think that the last time was that these three jurisdictions even practiced cooperation and sharing resources? So why do we think it would work during execution?

I think it makes sense for front line workers like those in hospital, school, or police/fire station to be vaccinated at work because it could be an effective way to get the most number of people vaccinated. However, I don't understand why DC government is not counting the number of nonresidents we vaccinate here, and MD and VA do the same, and then they trade on number of future doses they get to make it equitable. Because bottom line is if we vaccinate VA and MD residents at a higher rate than the reverse (which I assume is true but don't know for sure), then ultimately VA and MD will have a surplus of vaccine and DC will have deficit. Better to keep it fair and fix unequal distribution as we go. I think asking feds to give more doses kind of misses the point- why are not VA and MD stepping up to plate?

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Anonymous wrote:At this point FEMA should just open first come first serve tents.

Agree.

The real problem is that there aren't enough vaccines available.
If more vaccines were available then tents (or health department mass vaccination spots) would make much more sense than this sign up system.

This is, in fact, what FEMA has started doing in Greensboro, NC and two other sites.
In this effort, it will not help us to be true blue. I have a feeling swing state will be getting those vaccines first.

Mayor Bowser/DC have been given the same population based percent of vaccine as all the other states. She has been using about half on out of state residents. This has been distributed through special clinics and signups, not the third that has been going through the web/telephone GOV signup for residents. (The other bit appears to be hospital/patient lists).If going forward she retained DCs vaccine allotment for DC residents and added it to the pool, would we not have enough to put up a tent?

D.C.’s situation is a little bit unusual, though: A very large share of people who work in health care, as teachers, as childcare workers, as cops, as firefighters or as transit workers in the District live in a different state, mostly because D.C. is too expensive. That isn’t the case in most other cities, which usually have at least some of their suburbs in the same state as the city. So measuring the percentage of vaccines given to our residents is fine, but there’s a pretty easy explanation for it, and it still makes good sense for our public health to try to vaccinate front-line workers who spend their whole days here even if they live in another state.

PP, DC has already vaccinated health and many teachers (who could also have been vaccinated in MD + VA). Going forward, its a math problem PP. Every dose going out of state is a dose not going into a DC resident. The govt. Is not giving DC double vaccine. Its giving vaccine for DCs population. Math.

And I have read on this forum about DC residents getting vaccinated in VA or MD. It is what it is.

Your thoughts above are quite the nothing-burger PP!

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Anonymous wrote:At this point FEMA should just open first come first serve tents.

Agree.

The real problem is that there aren't enough vaccines available.
If more vaccines were available then tents (or health department mass vaccination spots) would make much more sense than this sign up system.

This is, in fact, what FEMA has started doing in Greensboro, NC and two other sites.
In this effort, it will not help us to be true blue. I have a feeling swing state will be getting those vaccines first.

Mayor Bowser/DC have been given the same population based percent of vaccine as all the other states. She has been using about half on out of state residents. This has been distributed through special clinics and signups, not the third that has been going through the web/telephone GOV signup for residents. (The other bit appears to be hospital/patient lists).If going forward she retained DCs vaccine allotment for DC residents and added it to the pool, would we not have enough to put up a tent?

D.C.’s situation is a little bit unusual, though: A very large share of people who work in health care, as teachers, as childcare workers, as cops, as firefighters or as transit workers in the District live in a different state, mostly because D.C. is too expensive. That isn’t the case in most other cities, which usually have at least some of their suburbs in the same state as the city. So measuring the percentage of vaccines given to our residents is fine, but there’s a pretty easy explanation for it, and it still makes good sense for our public health to try to vaccinate front-line workers who spend their whole days here even if they live in another state.

PP, DC has already vaccinated health and many teachers (who could also have been vaccinated in MD + VA). Going forward, its a math problem PP. Every dose going out of state is a dose not going into a DC resident. The govt. Is not giving DC double vaccine. Its giving vaccine for DCs population. Math.

And I have read on this forum about DC residents getting vaccinated in VA or MD. It is what it is.

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Anonymous wrote:At this point FEMA should just open first come first serve tents.

Agree.

The real problem is that there aren't enough vaccines available.
If more vaccines were available then tents (or health department mass vaccination spots) would make much more sense than this sign up system.

This is, in fact, what FEMA has started doing in Greensboro, NC and two other sites.
In this effort, it will not help us to be true blue. I have a feeling swing state will be getting those vaccines first.

Mayor Bowser/DC have been given the same population based percent of vaccine as all the other states. She has been using about half on out of state residents. This has been distributed through special clinics and signups, not the third that has been going through the web/telephone GOV signup for residents. (The other bit appears to be hospital/patient lists).If going forward she retained DCs vaccine allotment for DC residents and added it to the pool, would we not have enough to put up a tent?

D.C.’s situation is a little bit unusual, though: A very large share of people who work in health care, as teachers, as childcare workers, as cops, as firefighters or as transit workers in the District live in a different state, mostly because D.C. is too expensive. That isn’t the case in most other cities, which usually have at least some of their suburbs in the same state as the city. So measuring the percentage of vaccines given to our residents is fine, but there’s a pretty easy explanation for it, and it still makes good sense for our public health to try to vaccinate front-line workers who spend their whole days here even if they live in another state.

PP, DC has already vaccinated health and many teachers (who could also have been vaccinated in MD + VA). Going forward, its a math problem PP. Every dose going out of state is a dose not going into a DC resident. The govt. Is not giving DC double vaccine. Its giving vaccine for DCs population. Math.

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Anonymous wrote:At this point FEMA should just open first come first serve tents.

Agree.

The real problem is that there aren't enough vaccines available.
If more vaccines were available then tents (or health department mass vaccination spots) would make much more sense than this sign up system.

This is, in fact, what FEMA has started doing in Greensboro, NC and two other sites.
In this effort, it will not help us to be true blue. I have a feeling swing state will be getting those vaccines first.

Mayor Bowser/DC have been given the same population based percent of vaccine as all the other states. She has been using about half on out of state residents. This has been distributed through special clinics and signups, not the third that has been going through the web/telephone GOV signup for residents. (The other bit appears to be hospital/patient lists).If going forward she retained DCs vaccine allotment for DC residents and added it to the pool, would we not have enough to put up a tent?

D.C.’s situation is a little bit unusual, though: A very large share of people who work in health care, as teachers, as childcare workers, as cops, as firefighters or as transit workers in the District live in a different state, mostly because D.C. is too expensive. That isn’t the case in most other cities, which usually have at least some of their suburbs in the same state as the city. So measuring the percentage of vaccines given to our residents is fine, but there’s a pretty easy explanation for it, and it still makes good sense for our public health to try to vaccinate front-line workers who spend their whole days here even if they live in another state.

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Hahaha thank you! I'm going to use that at work.

Omg, amazing. I have somebody in my office that ALWAYS launches in production without testing, even though we have sandboxes!

With DC - it is not a matter simply of the fact that there are no vaccines available.

According to the NYT - DC has only used 65% of what it has been given. DC is about dead last in terms of getting shots in people's arms.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/covid-19-vaccine-doses.html

Why is this? DC can't execute a task of incredible importance for a city of about 700,000.

Throw Bowser and the rest of her incompetent government friends our of office prior to that DC statehood vote. She can't deal.

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Anonymous wrote:At this point FEMA should just open first come first serve tents.

Agree.

The real problem is that there aren't enough vaccines available.
If more vaccines were available then tents (or health department mass vaccination spots) would make much more sense than this sign up system.

This is, in fact, what FEMA has started doing in Greensboro, NC and two other sites.
In this effort, it will not help us to be true blue. I have a feeling swing state will be getting those vaccines first.

Mayor Bowser/DC have been given the same population based percent of vaccine as all the other states. She has been using about half on out of state residents. This has been distributed through special clinics and signups, not the third that has been going through the web/telephone GOV signup for residents. (The other bit appears to be hospital/patient lists).If going forward she retained DCs vaccine allotment for DC residents and added it to the pool, would we not have enough to put up a tent?

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Anonymous wrote:It's DC, where "not my problem" is the mantra of civic officials. The buck will be passed from the mayor to the council to the health department down to the employees responsible, who will receive a mild scolding, if anything. Do not expect heads to roll.

Look at the problems with the unemployment payments. The tech issues there have been known about for *years*. Elissa Silverman oversees this on the Council and has let it happen despite being well aware that it was a broken system. No one is holding her feet to the fire.

Or, try to get an appointment at the DMV. We are a year into this and it's impossible to use that website.

The website is less an issue than the lack of appointments. In both cases.

This is simply not true.

The number of appointments has nothing to do with the inability to run an administrative function effectively.

Blaming it on the number of vaccines or the Feds or Microsoft or Trump is simply smoke and mirrors.