Where are all those FASD kids from the 50s and 60s?

Everybody's parents drank in those days. I was born in the 60s. Nobody worried about this.

Anonymous wrote:My wonderful doctor encouraged me to relax with a glass of wine in the evenings during the third trimester. Americans are very silly on this subject, generally.

I had Braxton Hicks contractions with my 2DC that were bothersome and triggered my anxiety about precipitous labor (experienced with first baby!) and he advised sipping beer (maybe because I told him I am German and the only alcohol I imbibed pre pregnancy was beer). Apparently the alcohol would relax me yes but could ease the BH contractions whereas active labor contractions would continue.

Same obstetrician approved of me drinking beer postpartum and nursing because of the hops helping milk production.

I’m a small person and talking about drinking 1/2 can of beer.

First pregnancy was unexpected and I attended a weeklong work conference and enjoyed a cocktail in the evenings. Reported this to my ob who was unconcerned.

Anonymous wrote: I love how the ladies fiercely defending their drinking during pregnancy-despite the risks- all claim to drink 'lightly'. Sure Jan!

You mean, on a post that specifically asks about drinking lightly, you’re surprised that the responses are focused on the fact that there is no evidence to suggest that drinking lightly is harmful? I imagine the world is a confusing place for you.

Anonymous wrote: I love how the ladies fiercely defending their drinking during pregnancy-despite the risks- all claim to drink 'lightly'. Sure Jan!

So you’ve erroneously decided that they’re liars and are drinking heavily, based on...nothing. Got it.

I love how the ladies fiercely defending their drinking during pregnancy-despite the risks- all claim to drink 'lightly'. Sure Jan!

I didn't, but my sister did with my nephew (her second). [Well, actually, I think it's possible I had a sip of DH's wine in my 3rd trimester with DC2.]

Nephew is much mellower than his older sister, which my sister attributes to her having a cocktail every once in a while in her 2nd and 3rd trimesters with him. I personally find the idea that she thinks the alcohol affected him in any way terrifying, but we're different people. What is definitely true is that he's a flat out genius. Obvious from talking to him, and he's also been tested.

Make of that what you will.

Many women -- like me -- don't realize they are pregnant early on. I had a light period and no other symptoms until almost 7 weeks. On a few occasions during that time I had a few glasses of wine.

That's pretty typical.

I really don't see the point in these threads. You either believe it's fine or you don't. You aren't going to change anyone's mind. Arguing about it and name calling is pointless. Just let people believe what they want.

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Anonymous wrote:If a third of a glass of wine 5 times over the course 6 months could harm a fetus, then the human race would have died out a long time ago.

This.

And the rates of disability among adults 40 and over would be through the roof, given how frequently women in those generations and older drank while pregnant.

I hope everyone who’s sanctimonious about this issue also exercised daily while pregnant, ate only the most nutrient-dense food, minimized stress, etc.

Don’t forget “and never got into a car other than absolutely necessary visits to the doctors office”

I have no issue with people w go drink a bit during pregnancy but this is ridiculous. There is a huge cost to giving up driving or riding in a car for 9 months. There shouldn’t be a huge cost to giving up alcohol for 9 months. So apples to oranges here.

There really isn’t. It’s 2021. Get your groceries delivered. Make good green choices and take safer mass transit and walk. Telework. Just because you want to do something doesn’t mean it isn’t the riskiest thing you can possibly do for your fetus, compared to something like alcohol where there aren’t even proven risks at the light drinking levels. Remember you are a vessel.

Anonymous wrote:https://womensmentalhealth.org/posts/alcohol-pregnancy-attitudes-around-globe/

It’s not healthy to drink. Period.

And yet it is more dangerous to your fetus to drive. You just, personally, find it more convenient to drive.

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Anonymous wrote:If a third of a glass of wine 5 times over the course 6 months could harm a fetus, then the human race would have died out a long time ago.

This.

And the rates of disability among adults 40 and over would be through the roof, given how frequently women in those generations and older drank while pregnant.

I hope everyone who’s sanctimonious about this issue also exercised daily while pregnant, ate only the most nutrient-dense food, minimized stress, etc.

Don’t forget “and never got into a car other than absolutely necessary visits to the doctors office”

I have no issue with people w go drink a bit during pregnancy but this is ridiculous. There is a huge cost to giving up driving or riding in a car for 9 months. There shouldn’t be a huge cost to giving up alcohol for 9 months. So apples to oranges here.

https://womensmentalhealth.org/posts/alcohol-pregnancy-attitudes-around-globe/

It’s not healthy to drink. Period.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.npr.org/2018/08/24/641618937/no-amount-of-alcohol-is-good-for-your-health-global-study-claims

From NPR, a trusted source.

Ethanol is a toxin. Period.

https://www.cdc.gov/prams/pdf/snapshot-report/MotorVehicleInjuries.pdf

From the CDC, a trusted source.

Leading cause of death in fetuses is car accidents. Period. So women should not be in cars while pregnant right? I mean, why risk it?

What’s that you say? It’s not black and white? Tell me more....

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Most pregnant women “need” to drive to work, medical appointments, etc.

Nobody “needs” alcohol...except people with drinking problems. Regardless, it’s a toxin. Period.

You also don’t “need” to consume sugar or fried foods and know they’re harmful, so we should shame pregnant women who eat a cookie or have french fries once in a while. What horrible selfish people!

Well, sugar isn’t a toxin. Neither are French fries.

Ethanol is a toxin. That’s a fact.

The dose makes the poison, as the saying goes. No one is suggesting you chug vodka. Similarly, I assume you agree that literally a drop of beer would have no effect on the fetus. Some people want to just pay it absolutely safe and not drink at all. Others see that the evidence shows no risk from very light drinking so do it. Both approaches are reasonable.

I drank a couple glasses of wine per week during my second and third trimesters. One to two cups of black coffee per day also. My doctor said this was all fine. My baby was and is perfect!

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.npr.org/2018/08/24/641618937/no-amount-of-alcohol-is-good-for-your-health-global-study-claims

From NPR, a trusted source.

Ethanol is a toxin. Period.

https://www.cdc.gov/prams/pdf/snapshot-report/MotorVehicleInjuries.pdf

From the CDC, a trusted source.

Leading cause of death in fetuses is car accidents. Period. So women should not be in cars while pregnant right? I mean, why risk it?

What’s that you say? It’s not black and white? Tell me more....

?

Most pregnant women “need” to drive to work, medical appointments, etc.

Nobody “needs” alcohol...except people with drinking problems. Regardless, it’s a toxin. Period.

You also don’t “need” to consume sugar or fried foods and know they’re harmful, so we should shame pregnant women who eat a cookie or have french fries once in a while. What horrible selfish people!

Well, sugar isn’t a toxin. Neither are French fries.

Ethanol is a toxin. That’s a fact.