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Anonymous wrote:My son was in a 1st grade class with a boy who would regularly walk out of class and yell at the teacher she couldn’t touch him as he kicked her shins and threw things at her. He thought it was funny to hide after recess so the teacher and playground aides had to go looking for him. He was a really smart but incredibly defiant kid and he sucked up half of the teacher’s time. His mother would blame everyone for not understanding her spirited child and complained about poor supervision. She was talking to someone at pickup and her child approached her and gave her his backpack. The mom kept talking and the boy took off. She couldn’t find him and loudly blamed the school for losing him. She posted on social media about the poor supervision but left out the fact she was at the school and he should have been under her supervision. My son learned very little that year. And neither did his classmates.

This happens more than people realize. Its very frustrating as the parents are 1/2 the problem and the child is the other 1/2. They both need help - parents with parenting and child with behavior/mental health or it only gets worse.

no, the schools are the problem for sitting on their hands and pretending that there is nothing they can do without an IEP for disruptive behavior and eloping. There is a LOT they can do, but they don’t - out of laziness or (I suspect) and institutional approach of letting the situation escalate until it creates its own solution (kid gets suspended, assigned to a contained classroom, leaves school, etc). Wash rinse and repeat until kid gets old enough to arrest, expell, or drops out.

Even with an IEP, schools only can do so much if parents don't agree. A school can fast track an IEP to get a child a specialize placement and parents can refuse the placement. We had that several times at our school where child would be better served elsewhere and parents refused. Sadly, one of the paraprofessionals was a huge gossip.

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Anonymous wrote:Yikes. SRO’s are human and make the same mistakes as the rest of us. This kid must have resisted in every way possible, leaving the officer few options. But obviously he lost his cool and should know better. The kid belongs in a locked facility though.

They weren't SROs and you're disgusting. Just assuming no cop would ever use excessive force. Kid must have deserved it. Guess you've learned nothing from the videos we've all seen. I wasn't there, so I can't say what happened. But neither are you. At least I have Occam's Razor on my side.

By the way-- by Occam's Razor, I mean not just that cops often use excessive force, but even if they do so a minority of the time, there is bodycam footage here to back up the allegations. Yes, it hasn't been to trial, but hard to imagine the kid is kicking and screaming and biting and EVEN IF HE WAS this is the whole freakin problem with police. Mental health professionals and ER staff get spat on, attempted assaults, etc., and somehow a lot fewer of them end up threatening CHILDREN.

You belong in the locked facility you have created for this child.

The police should pick up the child and put him in the police car. That is ok. Its not ok to be verbally abusive. Lets see the footage. That will clear up a lot of problems. My bigger concern is why did this child walk off school grounds. Did the child have SN/behavioral/mental health issues or was something more going on at school or home? Kids don't normally walk out of school except if something is wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:I wrote out a whole long thing as an ESS parent, and then deleted it, because I don't want to share a bunch of info or engage in too much speculation. Bottom line to me is that the cops look terrible here, and the school's involvement is at least more ambiguous, possibly open to interpretation and hard to know the degree of. Could be very bad, could be much less so. I, for one, would like to know.

That said, I want to know what the dynamic is here. Assuming the boy is African American-- regardless of the race of the cops, black boys' behavior is criminalized by *everyone*. This story is deeply disturbing to me. The child was FIVE. I'll also say that those of you assuming money grubbing and lying on the part of the mom are gross to me, and yes, there is a racialized and/or class-based element to that. Cut it out.

You are automatically assuming the child's race and saying it was a race issue.

Assuming all this happened there are multiple issues involved.

There is absolutely no way that Montgomery County cops behaved this way towards a white kindergartener and we all know it.

Of course they behave this way to white people as well as other races. Just no one cares so whites would know better than to complain about it. Same with school administrators.

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Anonymous wrote:My son was in a 1st grade class with a boy who would regularly walk out of class and yell at the teacher she couldn’t touch him as he kicked her shins and threw things at her. He thought it was funny to hide after recess so the teacher and playground aides had to go looking for him. He was a really smart but incredibly defiant kid and he sucked up half of the teacher’s time. His mother would blame everyone for not understanding her spirited child and complained about poor supervision. She was talking to someone at pickup and her child approached her and gave her his backpack. The mom kept talking and the boy took off. She couldn’t find him and loudly blamed the school for losing him. She posted on social media about the poor supervision but left out the fact she was at the school and he should have been under her supervision. My son learned very little that year. And neither did his classmates.

This happens more than people realize. Its very frustrating as the parents are 1/2 the problem and the child is the other 1/2. They both need help - parents with parenting and child with behavior/mental health or it only gets worse.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son was in a 1st grade class with a boy who would regularly walk out of class and yell at the teacher she couldn’t touch him as he kicked her shins and threw things at her. He thought it was funny to hide after recess so the teacher and playground aides had to go looking for him. He was a really smart but incredibly defiant kid and he sucked up half of the teacher’s time. His mother would blame everyone for not understanding her spirited child and complained about poor supervision. She was talking to someone at pickup and her child approached her and gave her his backpack. The mom kept talking and the boy took off. She couldn’t find him and loudly blamed the school for losing him. She posted on social media about the poor supervision but left out the fact she was at the school and he should have been under her supervision. My son learned very little that year. And neither did his classmates.

This happens more than people realize. Its very frustrating as the parents are 1/2 the problem and the child is the other 1/2. They both need help - parents with parenting and child with behavior/mental health or it only gets worse.

no, the schools are the problem for sitting on their hands and pretending that there is nothing they can do without an IEP for disruptive behavior and eloping. There is a LOT they can do, but they don’t - out of laziness or (I suspect) and institutional approach of letting the situation escalate until it creates its own solution (kid gets suspended, assigned to a contained classroom, leaves school, etc). Wash rinse and repeat until kid gets old enough to arrest, expell, or drops out.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wrote out a whole long thing as an ESS parent, and then deleted it, because I don't want to share a bunch of info or engage in too much speculation. Bottom line to me is that the cops look terrible here, and the school's involvement is at least more ambiguous, possibly open to interpretation and hard to know the degree of. Could be very bad, could be much less so. I, for one, would like to know.

That said, I want to know what the dynamic is here. Assuming the boy is African American-- regardless of the race of the cops, black boys' behavior is criminalized by *everyone*. This story is deeply disturbing to me. The child was FIVE. I'll also say that those of you assuming money grubbing and lying on the part of the mom are gross to me, and yes, there is a racialized and/or class-based element to that. Cut it out.

You are automatically assuming the child's race and saying it was a race issue.

Assuming all this happened there are multiple issues involved.

There is absolutely no way that Montgomery County cops behaved this way towards a white kindergartener and we all know it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son was in a 1st grade class with a boy who would regularly walk out of class and yell at the teacher she couldn’t touch him as he kicked her shins and threw things at her. He thought it was funny to hide after recess so the teacher and playground aides had to go looking for him. He was a really smart but incredibly defiant kid and he sucked up half of the teacher’s time. His mother would blame everyone for not understanding her spirited child and complained about poor supervision. She was talking to someone at pickup and her child approached her and gave her his backpack. The mom kept talking and the boy took off. She couldn’t find him and loudly blamed the school for losing him. She posted on social media about the poor supervision but left out the fact she was at the school and he should have been under her supervision. My son learned very little that year. And neither did his classmates.

This happens more than people realize. Its very frustrating as the parents are 1/2 the problem and the child is the other 1/2. They both need help - parents with parenting and child with behavior/mental health or it only gets worse.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wrote out a whole long thing as an ESS parent, and then deleted it, because I don't want to share a bunch of info or engage in too much speculation. Bottom line to me is that the cops look terrible here, and the school's involvement is at least more ambiguous, possibly open to interpretation and hard to know the degree of. Could be very bad, could be much less so. I, for one, would like to know.

That said, I want to know what the dynamic is here. Assuming the boy is African American-- regardless of the race of the cops, black boys' behavior is criminalized by *everyone*. This story is deeply disturbing to me. The child was FIVE. I'll also say that those of you assuming money grubbing and lying on the part of the mom are gross to me, and yes, there is a racialized and/or class-based element to that. Cut it out.

You are automatically assuming the child's race and saying it was a race issue.

Assuming all this happened there are multiple issues involved.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wrote out a whole long thing as an ESS parent, and then deleted it, because I don't want to share a bunch of info or engage in too much speculation. Bottom line to me is that the cops look terrible here, and the school's involvement is at least more ambiguous, possibly open to interpretation and hard to know the degree of. Could be very bad, could be much less so. I, for one, would like to know.

That said, I want to know what the dynamic is here. Assuming the boy is African American-- regardless of the race of the cops, black boys' behavior is criminalized by *everyone*. This story is deeply disturbing to me. The child was FIVE. I'll also say that those of you assuming money grubbing and lying on the part of the mom are gross to me, and yes, there is a racialized and/or class-based element to that. Cut it out.

You are automatically assuming the child's race and saying it was a race issue.

Assuming all this happened there are multiple issues involved.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd like to see the body cam as you are just getting the parents side who was not there. That kid needs a SN child care setting if they are eloping. There is far more to this story.

SN would make the cops’ behavior even more despicable. Not sure why you think it’s at all a mitigating factor.

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Anonymous wrote:Yikes. SRO’s are human and make the same mistakes as the rest of us. This kid must have resisted in every way possible, leaving the officer few options. But obviously he lost his cool and should know better. The kid belongs in a locked facility though.

They weren't SROs and you're disgusting. Just assuming no cop would ever use excessive force. Kid must have deserved it. Guess you've learned nothing from the videos we've all seen. I wasn't there, so I can't say what happened. But neither are you. At least I have Occam's Razor on my side.

By the way-- by Occam's Razor, I mean not just that cops often use excessive force, but even if they do so a minority of the time, there is bodycam footage here to back up the allegations. Yes, it hasn't been to trial, but hard to imagine the kid is kicking and screaming and biting and EVEN IF HE WAS this is the whole freakin problem with police. Mental health professionals and ER staff get spat on, attempted assaults, etc., and somehow a lot fewer of them end up threatening CHILDREN.

You belong in the locked facility you have created for this child.

Anonymous wrote:My son was in a 1st grade class with a boy who would regularly walk out of class and yell at the teacher she couldn’t touch him as he kicked her shins and threw things at her. He thought it was funny to hide after recess so the teacher and playground aides had to go looking for him. He was a really smart but incredibly defiant kid and he sucked up half of the teacher’s time. His mother would blame everyone for not understanding her spirited child and complained about poor supervision. She was talking to someone at pickup and her child approached her and gave her his backpack. The mom kept talking and the boy took off. She couldn’t find him and loudly blamed the school for losing him. She posted on social media about the poor supervision but left out the fact she was at the school and he should have been under her supervision. My son learned very little that year. And neither did his classmates.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yikes. SRO’s are human and make the same mistakes as the rest of us. This kid must have resisted in every way possible, leaving the officer few options. But obviously he lost his cool and should know better. The kid belongs in a locked facility though.

They weren't SROs and you're disgusting. Just assuming no cop would ever use excessive force. Kid must have deserved it. Guess you've learned nothing from the videos we've all seen. I wasn't there, so I can't say what happened. But neither are you. At least I have Occam's Razor on my side.

Anonymous wrote:I'd like to see the body cam as you are just getting the parents side who was not there. That kid needs a SN child care setting if they are eloping. There is far more to this story.

Anonymous wrote:I wrote out a whole long thing as an ESS parent, and then deleted it, because I don't want to share a bunch of info or engage in too much speculation. Bottom line to me is that the cops look terrible here, and the school's involvement is at least more ambiguous, possibly open to interpretation and hard to know the degree of. Could be very bad, could be much less so. I, for one, would like to know.

That said, I want to know what the dynamic is here. Assuming the boy is African American-- regardless of the race of the cops, black boys' behavior is criminalized by *everyone*. This story is deeply disturbing to me. The child was FIVE. I'll also say that those of you assuming money grubbing and lying on the part of the mom are gross to me, and yes, there is a racialized and/or class-based element to that. Cut it out.