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Anonymous wrote:I am more concerned that you have already taught your child to be judgmental and have anxiety over covid.

I’ve actually thought a fair amount about this. This is OP. I am very judgmental about COVID. I will own that. I think it’s justified judgment. I judge you and I don’t mind judging you. But I don’t want my child to feel how angry I am because I don’t think that’s healthy for her. I actually think her response shows that she’s not feeling judgmental or anxious. She thinks those people don’t know about the germ. We ate inside restaurants and didn’t wear masks too when we didn’t know. But now we know, so we get take out and wear masks. Her response is judgment and anxiety free, which is lovely in the way that 3 year olds are. But I will judge you!

You're the one walking away feeling bitter. They are enjoying themselves and could not care less about your judgment.

I think that’s what drives people like PP crazy. They’re so angry and judgmental, but they have no power. No one cares about their opinion. All they can do is come onto a site like this and cluck their tongues.

As a wise man once said: “You want it to be one way. But it’s the other way.”

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The people out didn't give this crazy a second thought. Yet, she's stewing about it days later. You live a sad, angry life. Good luck to your daughter.

Agreed. The people out there who don’t care just aren’t worth bothering with at this point. We!re what, 9 months in? Just focus on yourself and your family before you have a breakdown over things you can’t control. Nothing I say would change my SIL’s mind from going to church or restaurants. On the other side, I know people who are just so incredibly bitter that they’ve given up everything and are exclusively home while others still go to work, stores, use childcare, etc. We have a neighbor who is constantly watching out his window and posting on the neighborhood listserv whenever he sees an unmasked person walking by (while simultaneously having a child at an out of state college! go figure).

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Anonymous wrote:When 99.98% of the people who get COVID don’t die or have any severe side effects, it’s hard for many people to get really worked up about COVID. And younger, healthy people have even better odds. They really aren’t at risk. Trying to get them to care about strangers they don’t know is hard over the long haul.

It’s a real hard sell to younger people, who are probably more at risk from dying in a traffic accident on the way to the bar than they are from dying due to COVID, to keep staying home indefinitely.

The message that you should sacrifice for others, with nothing in return, was always going to go over like a lead balloon. Especially in a society where the older generations (looking at you, baby boomers) would not be making any sacrifices if this was primarily a disease that killed young people.

This. The boomers have pretty much screwed over the country, and now expect everyone to sacrifice for them indefinitely? Incidentally a lot of boomers I know aren’t really taking this as seriously as they should anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:I am more concerned that you have already taught your child to be judgmental and have anxiety over covid.

I’ve actually thought a fair amount about this. This is OP. I am very judgmental about COVID. I will own that. I think it’s justified judgment. I judge you and I don’t mind judging you. But I don’t want my child to feel how angry I am because I don’t think that’s healthy for her. I actually think her response shows that she’s not feeling judgmental or anxious. She thinks those people don’t know about the germ. We ate inside restaurants and didn’t wear masks too when we didn’t know. But now we know, so we get take out and wear masks. Her response is judgment and anxiety free, which is lovely in the way that 3 year olds are. But I will judge you!

You're the one walking away feeling bitter. They are enjoying themselves and could not care less about your judgment.

I think that’s what drives people like PP crazy. They’re so angry and judgmental, but they have no power. No one cares about their opinion. All they can do is come onto a site like this and cluck their tongues.

As a wise man once said: “You want it to be one way. But it’s the other way.”

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The people out didn't give this crazy a second thought. Yet, she's stewing about it days later. You live a sad, angry life. Good luck to your daughter.

Anonymous wrote:Whoever is making the false equivalency between heart disease and a contagious infection is being disingenuous. You can stretch for points of comparison, they will always be a stretch.

First, heart disease is not infectious. Secondly, even if it takes up some resources, it does not overwhelm hospital capacity. Thirdly, heart disease can be reversed. Covid cannot.

It does put you at high risk for COVID complications. As do obesity and diabetes. So yes, these conditions are putting a strain on our system.

Whoever is making the false equivalency between heart disease and a contagious infection is being disingenuous. You can stretch for points of comparison, they will always be a stretch.

First, heart disease is not infectious. Secondly, even if it takes up some resources, it does not overwhelm hospital capacity. Thirdly, heart disease can be reversed. Covid cannot.

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Anonymous wrote:I am more concerned that you have already taught your child to be judgmental and have anxiety over covid.

I’ve actually thought a fair amount about this. This is OP. I am very judgmental about COVID. I will own that. I think it’s justified judgment. I judge you and I don’t mind judging you. But I don’t want my child to feel how angry I am because I don’t think that’s healthy for her. I actually think her response shows that she’s not feeling judgmental or anxious. She thinks those people don’t know about the germ. We ate inside restaurants and didn’t wear masks too when we didn’t know. But now we know, so we get take out and wear masks. Her response is judgment and anxiety free, which is lovely in the way that 3 year olds are. But I will judge you!

NP here. I have serious question. Why do you judge these diners about COVID and not the food that they ate? The food was likely over salted, too fatty and empty in calories which presents a bigger risk to their health than COVID does. Heart disease is the number 1 killer in America.

This is OP. If this is a serious question, I will bite. Because their heart disease isn’t a danger to OTHER PEOPLE.

Is this right here the disconnect? Are people failing to understand that what each of us does affects everyone else?

PP is right that it’s one way but I want it to be another. I’m powerless. And frankly disgusted.

I give up. You know what? If these are my neighbors and family members and fellow Americans, why am
I trying so hard to keep everyone safe? If people are going to be hedonistic idiots, so be it.

Heart disease consumes resources that could easily be used to treat other conditions that aren't easily be controlled via dieting, exercise and eating healthy. To say that it isn't a danger to others is a very simple attitude. How much money is spent on this problem when the solution is simple?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am more concerned that you have already taught your child to be judgmental and have anxiety over covid.

I’ve actually thought a fair amount about this. This is OP. I am very judgmental about COVID. I will own that. I think it’s justified judgment. I judge you and I don’t mind judging you. But I don’t want my child to feel how angry I am because I don’t think that’s healthy for her. I actually think her response shows that she’s not feeling judgmental or anxious. She thinks those people don’t know about the germ. We ate inside restaurants and didn’t wear masks too when we didn’t know. But now we know, so we get take out and wear masks. Her response is judgment and anxiety free, which is lovely in the way that 3 year olds are. But I will judge you!

NP here. I have serious question. Why do you judge these diners about COVID and not the food that they ate? The food was likely over salted, too fatty and empty in calories which presents a bigger risk to their health than COVID does. Heart disease is the number 1 killer in America.

This is OP. If this is a serious question, I will bite. Because their heart disease isn’t a danger to OTHER PEOPLE.

Is this right here the disconnect? Are people failing to understand that what each of us does affects everyone else?

PP is right that it’s one way but I want it to be another. I’m powerless. And frankly disgusted.

I give up. You know what? If these are my neighbors and family members and fellow Americans, why am
I trying so hard to keep everyone safe? If people are going to be hedonistic idiots, so be it.

I’m truly honestly not trying to be sarcastic, but OP I really think this would be a better approach for you. The amount of VERY angry people on this bird is downright scary and sad. And I’m positive that kind of anger is not healthy nor productive. So yes if I were you and saw what you saw, I’d have similarly observations like you did .... I would probably say something to my husband like “what in the hell are those people thinking?” And then I would let it go.....

I know you didn’t ask for advice here, so sorry it’s unsolicited. But people’s reactions right now (from what I read when I come to this board periodically) are really only going to lead them down a path of unhappiness bc they have no control.

I realize people want control in this situations me want everyone else to behave like they are, but this is just not the reality and acceptance is key here. I don’t want to see more people sick and dying, but I also know I can only control myself and my family (to an extent), and trying to do otherwise is truly pointless

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am more concerned that you have already taught your child to be judgmental and have anxiety over covid.

I’ve actually thought a fair amount about this. This is OP. I am very judgmental about COVID. I will own that. I think it’s justified judgment. I judge you and I don’t mind judging you. But I don’t want my child to feel how angry I am because I don’t think that’s healthy for her. I actually think her response shows that she’s not feeling judgmental or anxious. She thinks those people don’t know about the germ. We ate inside restaurants and didn’t wear masks too when we didn’t know. But now we know, so we get take out and wear masks. Her response is judgment and anxiety free, which is lovely in the way that 3 year olds are. But I will judge you!

NP here. I have serious question. Why do you judge these diners about COVID and not the food that they ate? The food was likely over salted, too fatty and empty in calories which presents a bigger risk to their health than COVID does. Heart disease is the number 1 killer in America.

This is OP. If this is a serious question, I will bite. Because their heart disease isn’t a danger to OTHER PEOPLE.

Is this right here the disconnect? Are people failing to understand that what each of us does affects everyone else?

PP is right that it’s one way but I want it to be another. I’m powerless. And frankly disgusted.

I give up. You know what? If these are my neighbors and family members and fellow Americans, why am
I trying so hard to keep everyone safe? If people are going to be hedonistic idiots, so be it.