Anonymous
12/08/2020 14:05
Subject: Teachers and parents were right: 19 outbreaks in DC K-12 schools so far
Anonymous wrote:Can we guesstimate that Schools with a higher percentage of kids taking public transportation will have more outbreaks?
Yes but it depends on who else is using the bus, and how. If the buses and trains remain at low utilization, and all people including kids are wearing their masks then there would probably not be a correlation between high using public transport schools and neighborhood schools where everyone walks to school. And if there were I think there would be some con-founding factors which would need to be teased out.
Anonymous
12/08/2020 13:59
Subject: Re:Teachers and parents were right: 19 outbreaks in DC K-12 schools so far
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For perspective, the number of kids dying from gun violence is much higher than covid and the flu combined, and the pandemic (including school closures) is causing this rate to rise since the home is by far the highest risk setting for gun violence even when you count school shootings.
#kids who died from gun violence in 2019 (age 0-11): 271
#kids who died from gun violence in 2019 (age 12-17): 979
*These #s do not include the kids who were injured by guns.
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/more-children-being-shot-with-guns/65-005b8e4d-8e7c-42a6-9ee7-d1e7a2ac7539
This country has a terrible record with gun violence and children. Look at Sandy Hook. We need a national policy (kinda like we do for covid). I don’t know what this has to do with this conversation.
kids being kept at home = greater risk of kids dying in shootings
Are people really not getting this? Time to wake up to the fact that kids are at higher risk of dying from schools being closed than they are from the virus. Call it an unintended consequence if you will. Similar to how child abuse reports are way down this year. Do you think it's because all the economic strain, job loss, and 24/7 togetherness resulted in people suddenly not abusing kids anymore?
This pandemic has exasperated the stress this society places on schools. We really need to come together to develop social programs and a safety net in this country. Opening schools isn’t going to solve this problem.
Anonymous
12/08/2020 13:58
Subject: Teachers and parents were right: 19 outbreaks in DC K-12 schools so far
I agree that child maltreatment (abuse/neglect), mental health concerns, increase in suicides, and gun violence are all significant factors that public health experts are weighing in their decision to recommend that schools stay open whenever possible.
Anonymous
12/08/2020 13:55
Subject: Re:Teachers and parents were right: 19 outbreaks in DC K-12 schools so far
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For perspective, the number of kids dying from gun violence is much higher than covid and the flu combined, and the pandemic (including school closures) is causing this rate to rise since the home is by far the highest risk setting for gun violence even when you count school shootings.
#kids who died from gun violence in 2019 (age 0-11): 271
#kids who died from gun violence in 2019 (age 12-17): 979
*These #s do not include the kids who were injured by guns.
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/more-children-being-shot-with-guns/65-005b8e4d-8e7c-42a6-9ee7-d1e7a2ac7539
This country has a terrible record with gun violence and children. Look at Sandy Hook. We need a national policy (kinda like we do for covid). I don’t know what this has to do with this conversation.
kids being kept at home = greater risk of kids dying in shootings
Are people really not getting this? Time to wake up to the fact that kids are at higher risk of dying from schools being closed than they are from the virus. Call it an unintended consequence if you will. Similar to how child abuse reports are way down this year. Do you think it's because all the economic strain, job loss, and 24/7 togetherness resulted in people suddenly not abusing kids anymore?
Anonymous
12/08/2020 13:50
Subject: Teachers and parents were right: 19 outbreaks in DC K-12 schools so far
Can we guesstimate that Schools with a higher percentage of kids taking public transportation will have more outbreaks?
Anonymous
12/08/2020 13:49
Subject: Re:Teachers and parents were right: 19 outbreaks in DC K-12 schools so far
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For perspective, the number of kids dying from gun violence is much higher than covid and the flu combined, and the pandemic (including school closures) is causing this rate to rise since the home is by far the highest risk setting for gun violence even when you count school shootings.
#kids who died from gun violence in 2019 (age 0-11): 271
#kids who died from gun violence in 2019 (age 12-17): 979
*These #s do not include the kids who were injured by guns.
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/more-children-being-shot-with-guns/65-005b8e4d-8e7c-42a6-9ee7-d1e7a2ac7539
Where are the rates for this year during the stay at home time
30% higher (for the 3 months that the whole country was locked down) = 107 deaths in 3 months
"With children homebound like never before, the risks of gun violence have been laid bare: Everytown analysis has shown that unintentional shooting deaths by children increased by over 30 percent in March, April, and May 2020, compared to average unintentional gun deaths by children during the same three months over the past three years."
https://everytownresearch.org/report/gun-violence-and-covid-19-colliding-public-health-crises/
https://maps.everytownresearch.org/notanaccident/#17092
Anonymous
12/08/2020 13:29
Subject: Re:Teachers and parents were right: 19 outbreaks in DC K-12 schools so far
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For perspective, the number of kids dying from gun violence is much higher than covid and the flu combined, and the pandemic (including school closures) is causing this rate to rise since the home is by far the highest risk setting for gun violence even when you count school shootings.
#kids who died from gun violence in 2019 (age 0-11): 271
#kids who died from gun violence in 2019 (age 12-17): 979
*These #s do not include the kids who were injured by guns.
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/more-children-being-shot-with-guns/65-005b8e4d-8e7c-42a6-9ee7-d1e7a2ac7539
This country has a terrible record with gun violence and children. Look at Sandy Hook. We need a national policy (kinda like we do for covid). I don’t know what this has to do with this conversation.
You have to love the prevalence of "whataboutism". PPP assumes, I guess, that public health challenges can only be addressed one at a time. Obesity kills more kids than guns; let's repeal all gun laws until we address childhood obesity!!!
Anonymous
12/08/2020 12:55
Subject: Re:Teachers and parents were right: 19 outbreaks in DC K-12 schools so far
Anonymous wrote:For perspective, the number of kids dying from gun violence is much higher than covid and the flu combined, and the pandemic (including school closures) is causing this rate to rise since the home is by far the highest risk setting for gun violence even when you count school shootings.
#kids who died from gun violence in 2019 (age 0-11): 271
#kids who died from gun violence in 2019 (age 12-17): 979
*These #s do not include the kids who were injured by guns.
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/more-children-being-shot-with-guns/65-005b8e4d-8e7c-42a6-9ee7-d1e7a2ac7539
This country has a terrible record with gun violence and children. Look at Sandy Hook. We need a national policy (kinda like we do for covid). I don’t know what this has to do with this conversation.
Anonymous
12/08/2020 12:54
Subject: Re:Teachers and parents were right: 19 outbreaks in DC K-12 schools so far
Anonymous wrote:For perspective, the number of kids dying from gun violence is much higher than covid and the flu combined, and the pandemic (including school closures) is causing this rate to rise since the home is by far the highest risk setting for gun violence even when you count school shootings.
#kids who died from gun violence in 2019 (age 0-11): 271
#kids who died from gun violence in 2019 (age 12-17): 979
*These #s do not include the kids who were injured by guns.
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/more-children-being-shot-with-guns/65-005b8e4d-8e7c-42a6-9ee7-d1e7a2ac7539
Where are the rates for this year during the stay at home time
Anonymous
12/08/2020 12:01
Subject: Re:Teachers and parents were right: 19 outbreaks in DC K-12 schools so far
For perspective, the number of kids dying from gun violence is much higher than covid and the flu combined, and the pandemic (including school closures) is causing this rate to rise since the home is by far the highest risk setting for gun violence even when you count school shootings.
#kids who died from gun violence in 2019 (age 0-11): 271
#kids who died from gun violence in 2019 (age 12-17): 979
*These #s do not include the kids who were injured by guns.
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/more-children-being-shot-with-guns/65-005b8e4d-8e7c-42a6-9ee7-d1e7a2ac7539
#kids who died from gun violence in 2019 (age 0-11): 271
#kids who died from gun violence in 2019 (age 12-17): 979
*These #s do not include the kids who were injured by guns.
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/more-children-being-shot-with-guns/65-005b8e4d-8e7c-42a6-9ee7-d1e7a2ac7539
Anonymous
12/08/2020 11:56
Subject: Teachers and parents were right: 19 outbreaks in DC K-12 schools so far
Anonymous wrote:How many DCPS students are being raised by a high risk parent, grandparent, guardian?
Those families should have the option to continue DL. They should not determine policy for everyone.
Anonymous
12/08/2020 11:53
Subject: Teachers and parents were right: 19 outbreaks in DC K-12 schools so far
How many DCPS students are being raised by a high risk parent, grandparent, guardian?
Anonymous
12/08/2020 11:44
Subject: Teachers and parents were right: 19 outbreaks in DC K-12 schools so far
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ugh at people making cost benefit analysis about people dying alone in a room
Kids are more at risk during flu season -- were you agitating to close schools every flu season? Come on.
300,000 people didn’t die from the flu
No, but if we're talking about the metrics for only kids:
#kids who died from the flu last year: 188
# kids who died from covid so far: approx. 154*
*7 states did not stratify covid deaths by age
*15 states reported 0 pediatric covid deaths
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/spotlights/2019-2020/2019-20-pediatric-flu-deaths.htm
https://services.aap.org/en/pages/2019-novel-coronavirus-covid-19-infections/children-and-covid-19-state-level-data-report/
A couple of contextual notes with these stats:
The CDC believes the actual number of flu deaths is much higher -- closer to 600 -- because of major inconsistencies in the way they are documented.
The CDC considers the number of pediatric flu deaths to be "relatively rare".
The CDC considers severe pediatric illness from covid to be "rare".
Zero kids in DC have died from coronavirus.
Most of the people who’ve died from coronavirus in DC were at least 70 years old.
A 1 year old just died from COVID last week in Maryland. So it does rarely happen in our area.
Anonymous
12/08/2020 11:40
Subject: Teachers and parents were right: 19 outbreaks in DC K-12 schools so far
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ugh at people making cost benefit analysis about people dying alone in a room
Kids are more at risk during flu season -- were you agitating to close schools every flu season? Come on.
300,000 people didn’t die from the flu
No, but if we're talking about the metrics for only kids:
#kids who died from the flu last year: 188
# kids who died from covid so far: approx. 154*
*7 states did not stratify covid deaths by age
*15 states reported 0 pediatric covid deaths
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/spotlights/2019-2020/2019-20-pediatric-flu-deaths.htm
https://services.aap.org/en/pages/2019-novel-coronavirus-covid-19-infections/children-and-covid-19-state-level-data-report/
A couple of contextual notes with these stats:
The CDC believes the actual number of flu deaths is much higher -- closer to 600 -- because of major inconsistencies in the way they are documented.
The CDC considers the number of pediatric flu deaths to be "relatively rare".
The CDC considers severe pediatric illness from covid to be "rare".
Zero kids in DC have died from coronavirus.
Most of the people who’ve died from coronavirus in DC were at least 70 years old.
Anonymous
12/08/2020 11:27
Subject: Teachers and parents were right: 19 outbreaks in DC K-12 schools so far
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ugh at people making cost benefit analysis about people dying alone in a room
Kids are more at risk during flu season -- were you agitating to close schools every flu season? Come on.
300,000 people didn’t die from the flu
No, but if we're talking about the metrics for only kids:
#kids who died from the flu last year: 188
# kids who died from covid so far: approx. 154*
*7 states did not stratify covid deaths by age
*15 states reported 0 pediatric covid deaths
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/spotlights/2019-2020/2019-20-pediatric-flu-deaths.htm
https://services.aap.org/en/pages/2019-novel-coronavirus-covid-19-infections/children-and-covid-19-state-level-data-report/
A couple of contextual notes with these stats:
The CDC believes the actual number of flu deaths is much higher -- closer to 600 -- because of major inconsistencies in the way they are documented.
The CDC considers the number of pediatric flu deaths to be "relatively rare".
The CDC considers severe pediatric illness from covid to be "rare".