Anonymous
Post 12/05/2020 13:54     Subject: Re:Who are these loser millennials?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One thing I found interesting is at conferences for work the boomers and gen X era go to dinner every night and get drunk.

The millennials take advantage of whatever there is to offer in the area going hiking, skiing, zip lining, white water rafting, city tours, museums, etc



Yeah, I noticed that. I went back to my hotel room and tried to catch up on the work I missed during the day due to the pointless conference. It's not a vacation. It's travel for work. GenX.


I don’t know any Xers or boomer working at night they are getting wasted.

-Xer
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2020 13:50     Subject: Who are these loser millennials?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am one of the oldest Millennial (born 1981) and I definitely did not have a UMC life growing up. I did study hard as a first generation immigrant and got a full ride for my undergraduate and graduate school. I got married at 24 and we bought our first house 2 years after starting work. I got my GS-15 at 31. DH started a small business a few years back. We now own a million dollar house that is 80% paid off, have two kids with a good chunk of money in their 529s, and have a healthy amount of money in our retirement and investment accounts.



What was the small business? Are you an attorney?


Probably some typical crony insider skim job.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2020 13:46     Subject: Who are these loser millennials?

Anonymous wrote:I am one of the oldest Millennial (born 1981) and I definitely did not have a UMC life growing up. I did study hard as a first generation immigrant and got a full ride for my undergraduate and graduate school. I got married at 24 and we bought our first house 2 years after starting work. I got my GS-15 at 31. DH started a small business a few years back. We now own a million dollar house that is 80% paid off, have two kids with a good chunk of money in their 529s, and have a healthy amount of money in our retirement and investment accounts.


Sounds like you had a comfortable life though. I was born in 81 too but had an unmotivated dad and mom who married for love. Dad didn't know how to manage his money or that education was important. We rented and I didn't have my own bed until I was 14 or my own space. You got so lucky!
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2020 13:44     Subject: Who are these loser millennials?

Anonymous wrote:I am one of the oldest Millennial (born 1981) and I definitely did not have a UMC life growing up. I did study hard as a first generation immigrant and got a full ride for my undergraduate and graduate school. I got married at 24 and we bought our first house 2 years after starting work. I got my GS-15 at 31. DH started a small business a few years back. We now own a million dollar house that is 80% paid off, have two kids with a good chunk of money in their 529s, and have a healthy amount of money in our retirement and investment accounts.



What was the small business? Are you an attorney?
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2020 13:40     Subject: Who are these loser millennials?

I am one of the oldest Millennial (born 1981) and I definitely did not have a UMC life growing up. I did study hard as a first generation immigrant and got a full ride for my undergraduate and graduate school. I got married at 24 and we bought our first house 2 years after starting work. I got my GS-15 at 31. DH started a small business a few years back. We now own a million dollar house that is 80% paid off, have two kids with a good chunk of money in their 529s, and have a healthy amount of money in our retirement and investment accounts.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2020 13:38     Subject: Who are these loser millennials?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am an older millennials ( early 30s) and everyone I know and younger does not meet the accepted negative narrative of millennials. They are:

- well educated and ambitious about their jobs. Whether they’re in engineering, finance or public policy, they are go getters and hustlers. They take their careers seriously and are eager to climb the ladder.
- health obsessed. Peloton every day, work out and eat healthy is a lifestyle.Green juices and self care is a mantra.
- productive hobbies like hiking, learning languages, traveling and cooking.
- pet ownership and home ownership for those who can afford it.
- spotless and clean homes that look like pottery barn catlog
- serious relationships or in the quest for one.

I don’t relate to these lazy entitled millennial stereotypes at all!
j

You lost me at "green juices and self care is a mantra"

Pre-ten-tious.


Everything on list is self entitled and laziness.

A baby boomer list would be
-being a good neighbor - helping older neighbors, keeping house nice outside.
- good son or daughter - helping mom and Dad. Fixing things, getting groceries
- hosting Thanks giving Christmas to give parents and uncles/aunts a break
- going to church or temple etc making sure kids are raised in religion
- Being a good worker and pride in job at work
- being charitable

As you ride your peloton and drink green juice others who are older on a fixed income cover for you



Where do I sign up for this program where an old person on a fixed income buys me a peloton? Oh, you're full of it. Got it.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2020 13:36     Subject: Who are these loser millennials?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also a transplant but I agree with PP. Transplants prioritize other things (career, prestige, money) over family. People who really prioritize family are back in Ohio (or wherever). It’s a little gross and something I’ve had to come to accept about myself.

Very very very few people are going to be remembered for their job performance. Many more will be remembered for being a loving and dedicated mom, dad, brother, sister, etc. If you disappear today, you will easily be replaced at work by someone doing the job to to the same level as you. You are irreplaceable as a mother, father, sister, brother...
Priorities.


Well put. I saw that viral New Yorker cover and just got sad thinking if that young lady gets cancer, she's going to be taking ubers to chemo? How will bills be paid since she's a single earner and out of work due to health? She'll likely be alone in the hospital? Or even later in life, is she going to die alone? Nobody cares about your work "projects" or the hot restaurants you ate at or the foreign countries you brag about on instagram -- your legacy is your family.


I hate to tell you about all the people who die alone even though they had kids.
I also hope I don't have to tell you that single women without kids don't just bust out of seafoam, they do have families.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2020 13:35     Subject: Who are these loser millennials?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am an older millennials ( early 30s) and everyone I know and younger does not meet the accepted negative narrative of millennials. They are:

- well educated and ambitious about their jobs. Whether they’re in engineering, finance or public policy, they are go getters and hustlers. They take their careers seriously and are eager to climb the ladder.
- health obsessed. Peloton every day, work out and eat healthy is a lifestyle.Green juices and self care is a mantra.
- productive hobbies like hiking, learning languages, traveling and cooking.
- pet ownership and home ownership for those who can afford it.
- spotless and clean homes that look like pottery barn catlog
- serious relationships or in the quest for one.

I don’t relate to these lazy entitled millennial stereotypes at all!
j

You lost me at "green juices and self care is a mantra"

Pre-ten-tious.


Everything on list is self entitled and laziness.

A baby boomer list would be
-being a good neighbor - helping older neighbors, keeping house nice outside.
- good son or daughter - helping mom and Dad. Fixing things, getting groceries
- hosting Thanks giving Christmas to give parents and uncles/aunts a break
- going to church or temple etc making sure kids are raised in religion
- Being a good worker and pride in job at work
- being charitable

As you ride your peloton and drink green juice others who are older on a fixed income cover for you

Anonymous
Post 12/05/2020 13:33     Subject: Who are these loser millennials?

Anonymous wrote:Boomers did the same smear job on Gen X.


Yup, everyone hates the younger generation. It's just what older people do and have done forever.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2020 13:30     Subject: Who are these loser millennials?

Boomers did the same smear job on Gen X.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2020 13:25     Subject: Who are these loser millennials?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also a transplant but I agree with PP. Transplants prioritize other things (career, prestige, money) over family. People who really prioritize family are back in Ohio (or wherever). It’s a little gross and something I’ve had to come to accept about myself.

Very very very few people are going to be remembered for their job performance. Many more will be remembered for being a loving and dedicated mom, dad, brother, sister, etc. If you disappear today, you will easily be replaced at work by someone doing the job to to the same level as you. You are irreplaceable as a mother, father, sister, brother...
Priorities.


Well put. I saw that viral New Yorker cover and just got sad thinking if that young lady gets cancer, she's going to be taking ubers to chemo? How will bills be paid since she's a single earner and out of work due to health? She'll likely be alone in the hospital? Or even later in life, is she going to die alone? Nobody cares about your work "projects" or the hot restaurants you ate at or the foreign countries you brag about on instagram -- your legacy is your family.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2020 13:19     Subject: Who are these loser millennials?

Anonymous wrote:I am an older millennials ( early 30s) and everyone I know and younger does not meet the accepted negative narrative of millennials. They are:

- well educated and ambitious about their jobs. Whether they’re in engineering, finance or public policy, they are go getters and hustlers. They take their careers seriously and are eager to climb the ladder.
- health obsessed. Peloton every day, work out and eat healthy is a lifestyle.Green juices and self care is a mantra.
- productive hobbies like hiking, learning languages, traveling and cooking.
- pet ownership and home ownership for those who can afford it.
- spotless and clean homes that look like pottery barn catlog
- serious relationships or in the quest for one.

I don’t relate to these lazy entitled millennial stereotypes at all!


The "losers" are literally the entire bottom 50% of the nation who have been left behind. The millennials you know were likely born UMC and rich -- they probably never had student loans (certainly not for their bachelor's). Those born affluent cohorts are doing better than ever.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2020 13:05     Subject: Who are these loser millennials?

Anonymous wrote:I am an older millennials ( early 30s) and everyone I know and younger does not meet the accepted negative narrative of millennials. They are:

- well educated and ambitious about their jobs. Whether they’re in engineering, finance or public policy, they are go getters and hustlers. They take their careers seriously and are eager to climb the ladder.
- health obsessed. Peloton every day, work out and eat healthy is a lifestyle.Green juices and self care is a mantra.
- productive hobbies like hiking, learning languages, traveling and cooking.
- pet ownership and home ownership for those who can afford it.
- spotless and clean homes that look like pottery barn catlog
- serious relationships or in the quest for one.

I don’t relate to these lazy entitled millennial stereotypes at all!

The bolded are the most millennial things ever. And, at the same time, they are the things that all of the people who write about millennial burn out say is driving millennial burn out.

OP, surely you realize that the vast majority of people, millennial or not, cannot and never will be able to afford these things. Right? Regardless of generation, that's why so many people are exhausted and unhappy. And that the privileged and "ambitious" people don't seem to understand that they started life on 3rd base.

-- UMC Millennial-Gen X cusper who at least has enough self-awareness to know she started life on 3rd base
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2020 12:59     Subject: Who are these loser millennials?

Anonymous wrote:I am an older millennials ( early 30s) and everyone I know and younger does not meet the accepted negative narrative of millennials. They are:

- well educated and ambitious about their jobs. Whether they’re in engineering, finance or public policy, they are go getters and hustlers. They take their careers seriously and are eager to climb the ladder.
- health obsessed. Peloton every day, work out and eat healthy is a lifestyle.Green juices and self care is a mantra.
- productive hobbies like hiking, learning languages, traveling and cooking.
- pet ownership and home ownership for those who can afford it.
- spotless and clean homes that look like pottery barn catlog
- serious relationships or in the quest for one.

I don’t relate to these lazy entitled millennial stereotypes at all!


Some of the millennials I work with in biglaw probably meet your definition of successful but they are pretty quick to leave a work project inappropriately in the lurch if it interferes with social plans or their health “obsession. More than happy to take credit for work they didn’t do as well.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2020 12:55     Subject: Who are these loser millennials?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm X and I didn't have to "figure it out on my own at 18" Let's not speak for a whole generation, thanks!

Perfectly adulting right now though!


Um, yeah no. No self-respecting Gen-Xer uses the term 'adulting.'

+1. Adulting was a term invented by millennials for accomplishing simple everyday tasks that previous generations did without even thinking and didn’t need to feel a sense of accomplishment for cooking a chicken breast or doing a load of laundry.


Thank you. I'm Gen X and I've been doing my own laundry, cooking my own breakfasts, and loading the dishwasher since I was 10. It wasn't adulting then either.


This.

And, I don’t know what we call kids currently in college, but I know several whose affluent helicopter copters sent them off to school without knowing how to do laundry, cook or clean. Apparently that happens when you grow up with a SAHM and cleaning service.