Anonymous
11/08/2020 22:12
Subject: Friends with guns
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So many things more dangerous than guns. Agree on cars and driver's safety record.
No. Not “so many things”. Just cars. Firearm death is second only to motor vehicle accidents. Except if you want to talk about hours in a car vs hours playing with a gun, if still rather have my kid buckled in a car.
Unintentional injury deaths in children - Motor vehicle is first, yes. Suffocation, drowning, poisoning, burn/fire and pedestrian related injury all outrank firearms.
Firearms only enter second place for child death if you include homicides - but that's well outside the realm of what this post is about, safe storage at a playmate's house.
Firearms is #2 after MVA. Slick move trying to twist facts by grouping different causes together.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsr1804754
Please read my post again, because that's exactly what I wrote. You are lumping in homicides and suicides in the firearms category, when this thread is about children accessing firearms at a playdate. Apples and oranges.
Anonymous
11/08/2020 21:47
Subject: Friends with guns
Yes and no.
Both my husband and I are retired military. It’s safe to assume we have guns.
Both my husband and I are retired military. It’s safe to assume we have guns.
Anonymous
11/08/2020 21:34
Subject: Friends with guns
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If securely locked, of course. Gee whiz, guns don't radiate cooties.
I wouldn't expect parents to disclose, any more than I would expect them to relay the full details of their burglar alarm system.
WTH? I’m in the medical field. How many families thought that their guns were securely locked to only have a terrible accident with their child or child’s friend? Routine well child visits now include asking about guns in the house because it’s pretty high on the list of childhood injuries, some lethal.
I am also in the medical filed. WTH? Do you know know many children are killed and injured each day in auto accidents? Never, ever let your child into a car!
Obvious you don’t take gun safety seriously in children. I hope you are not a pediatrician. Your reasoning is so flawed. Cars are essential. Guns in the homes are not.
Anonymous
11/08/2020 21:31
Subject: Friends with guns
Anonymous wrote:So many things more dangerous than guns. Agree on cars and driver's safety record.
Well buddy, as can be seen in previous posts, no. Guns are #2
Anonymous
11/08/2020 21:29
Subject: Friends with guns
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So many things more dangerous than guns. Agree on cars and driver's safety record.
No. Not “so many things”. Just cars. Firearm death is second only to motor vehicle accidents. Except if you want to talk about hours in a car vs hours playing with a gun, if still rather have my kid buckled in a car.
Unintentional injury deaths in children - Motor vehicle is first, yes. Suffocation, drowning, poisoning, burn/fire and pedestrian related injury all outrank firearms.
Firearms only enter second place for child death if you include homicides - but that's well outside the realm of what this post is about, safe storage at a playmate's house.
Firearms is #2 after MVA. Slick move trying to twist facts by grouping different causes together.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsr1804754
Anonymous
11/08/2020 21:26
Subject: Friends with guns
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So many things more dangerous than guns. Agree on cars and driver's safety record.
No. Not “so many things”. Just cars. Firearm death is second only to motor vehicle accidents. Except if you want to talk about hours in a car vs hours playing with a gun, if still rather have my kid buckled in a car.
Unintentional injury deaths in children - Motor vehicle is first, yes. Suffocation, drowning, poisoning, burn/fire and pedestrian related injury all outrank firearms.
Firearms only enter second place for child death if you include homicides - but that's well outside the realm of what this post is about, safe storage at a playmate's house.
Only 50% of the firearm deaths is homicides. The rest is suicide and injuries. It’s staggering the huge increase risk in successful suicides in kids whose family own guns in the house.
Anonymous
11/08/2020 21:24
Subject: Friends with guns
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So many things more dangerous than guns. Agree on cars and driver's safety record.
No. Not “so many things”. Just cars. Firearm death is second only to motor vehicle accidents. Except if you want to talk about hours in a car vs hours playing with a gun, if still rather have my kid buckled in a car.
+1. MVA top cause death in kids. 2nd is gun injuries.
If you actually look at the percentage of people driving and in a car vs the percentage of people who own guns, higher risk of death is by far guns.
Anonymous
11/08/2020 21:17
Subject: Friends with guns
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So many things more dangerous than guns. Agree on cars and driver's safety record.
No. Not “so many things”. Just cars. Firearm death is second only to motor vehicle accidents. Except if you want to talk about hours in a car vs hours playing with a gun, if still rather have my kid buckled in a car.
Unintentional injury deaths in children - Motor vehicle is first, yes. Suffocation, drowning, poisoning, burn/fire and pedestrian related injury all outrank firearms.
Firearms only enter second place for child death if you include homicides - but that's well outside the realm of what this post is about, safe storage at a playmate's house.
Anonymous
11/08/2020 20:35
Subject: Friends with guns
Anonymous wrote:So many things more dangerous than guns. Agree on cars and driver's safety record.
No. Not “so many things”. Just cars. Firearm death is second only to motor vehicle accidents. Except if you want to talk about hours in a car vs hours playing with a gun, if still rather have my kid buckled in a car.
Anonymous
11/08/2020 19:59
Subject: Friends with guns
So many things more dangerous than guns. Agree on cars and driver's safety record.
Anonymous
11/08/2020 19:20
Subject: Friends with guns
Anonymous wrote:I’ve worked with children for 15 years. When they have an adult whom they trust, they say some pretty surprising things. One child I taught told me that he guessed his father’s gun safe combination, unlocked it, and chambered a round before replacing the gun. This is absolutely a health and safety situation.
I might be ok with my child visiting a gun-owning household, but I’d have to know the other child and have a sense for how close the parental supervision is.
If you don't ask outright, it's very possible your child already has visited such a household.
Anonymous
11/08/2020 19:18
Subject: Friends with guns
Anonymous wrote:Gaslighting by the progressives: Why does this trigger you? Liberals are really good at it.
I am a Dem and I have alwys owned a gun. None of your business.
It is our business if my kid is over your house Thank goodness that isn't happening at all but, sad you think that it isn't
Anonymous
11/08/2020 18:49
Subject: Friends with guns
I’ve worked with children for 15 years. When they have an adult whom they trust, they say some pretty surprising things. One child I taught told me that he guessed his father’s gun safe combination, unlocked it, and chambered a round before replacing the gun. This is absolutely a health and safety situation.
I might be ok with my child visiting a gun-owning household, but I’d have to know the other child and have a sense for how close the parental supervision is.
I might be ok with my child visiting a gun-owning household, but I’d have to know the other child and have a sense for how close the parental supervision is.
Anonymous
11/08/2020 18:04
Subject: Friends with guns
Gaslighting by the progressives: Why does this trigger you? Liberals are really good at it.
I am a Dem and I have alwys owned a gun. None of your business.
I am a Dem and I have alwys owned a gun. None of your business.
Anonymous
11/08/2020 18:02
Subject: Friends with guns
My gun is my business. How is your auto safety? Car inspected lately? Brakes OK? That IS my business if my kid is going in a car with you. You the hosting parent should be offering me this info without me having to ask.