Anonymous
11/02/2020 07:28
Subject: Re:Mark Seagraves confirms the Nov 2nd Sick Out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:1,000 parents, is that even one percent?
It's somewhere between 9950 or 9900 (depending on whose inflated numbers you believe) more than the patents demanding on person who show up to their ridiculous "protests," so yeah, it's pretty significant.
I don’t think you answered the original posters’ question. I’ve seen there are between 40,000 and 50,000 DCPS students, so that would be 2%.
Anonymous
11/02/2020 07:01
Subject: Re:Mark Seagraves confirms the Nov 2nd Sick Out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Kids need to go back to school period. I have teens who are great students and independent learners so I don't have to engage much with them on that front but there is so much more that's needed and that all students are missing out on. And for smaller children or those not in good environments this is so sad. LET'S AT LEAST TRY! YOU CAN'T FAIL IF YOU DON'T TRY! Stop living in fear and let's move forward. This disease won't go away. We can't keep hiding, we must learn to live with it and move forward. Seems like many other states and countries are placing children first. England locking down but now closing schools...hmm, children first. Teachers stop being so scared of the unknown. 20+ year Army retiree here, we just make a plan, execute it, if it fails, make a new plan. We don't just sit in fear in the corner waiting for someone else to take care of things. I'm over all this back and forth. JUST TRY!!!
Teachers get the short end of the stick all the time. And they should have been critical partners in the reopening plan. It’s very frustrating. But I agree with this sentiment above. It’s time to try and teachers should be putting out the message that it’s time to get back to school in some way. If it doesn’t work, we do something else. But at least we get started.
I agree *except* you should first try with a plan that has promise to start with. Trying with a clearly flawed plan is folly.
Anonymous
11/02/2020 06:58
Subject: Re:Mark Seagraves confirms the Nov 2nd Sick Out
Anonymous wrote:Kids need to go back to school period. I have teens who are great students and independent learners so I don't have to engage much with them on that front but there is so much more that's needed and that all students are missing out on. And for smaller children or those not in good environments this is so sad. LET'S AT LEAST TRY! YOU CAN'T FAIL IF YOU DON'T TRY! Stop living in fear and let's move forward. This disease won't go away. We can't keep hiding, we must learn to live with it and move forward. Seems like many other states and countries are placing children first. England locking down but now closing schools...hmm, children first. Teachers stop being so scared of the unknown. 20+ year Army retiree here, we just make a plan, execute it, if it fails, make a new plan. We don't just sit in fear in the corner waiting for someone else to take care of things. I'm over all this back and forth. JUST TRY!!!
Teachers get the short end of the stick all the time. And they should have been critical partners in the reopening plan. It’s very frustrating. But I agree with this sentiment above. It’s time to try and teachers should be putting out the message that it’s time to get back to school in some way. If it doesn’t work, we do something else. But at least we get started.
Anonymous
11/02/2020 06:31
Subject: Mark Seagraves confirms the Nov 2nd Sick Out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good news!
I’m a parent, and I stand with the teachers.
DCPS Central Office and the Chancellor need to get their house in order, take a pause, ENGAGE parents and teachers, and aim to reopen with a real, safe, plan in Feb.
Thank you. You have no idea how much your support means. We support you and your family too! We are here for you and will be advocating for you and your families.
No you don't. Your stupid plan targets children and families instead of management. How do you people have no idea how to conduct a strike?
Dear previous teacher poster,
Please know that 1,000 DCPS parents signed this letter of solidarity with you.
ONE THOUSAND. In just a few days.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeEj2ex2OnG8RNLlt_6htHHNg8v6KKydXrVefwRE6kxyLDmGQ/closedform
There’s a lot of conservatives out there who want to damage public schools and damage unions, because a few rightwing billionaires can make money by privatizing education. And this opinion, for whatever reason, is overrepresented on DCUM.
Parents are with the teachers. DCPS has no good options because of Republicans mismanaging the pandemic.
But parents all know you’re trying hard.
Real DCPS parents reading this thread, I encourage you to send a note to your teachers now talking about what you’re happy about with their teaching, and saying you support them.
(I’m sure we’ll get more anti-union, anti-teacher replies to this. Ignore them!)
I’ll send a quick note. I’m pretty short on time though. I’m expected to bill 8 hrs a day to my regular job, be a teachers’ aide during the school day, well except tomorrow. On the evenings and weekends I’m a reading and math tutor. I hate this. Can’t we work together to find a solution? Compromise at all? I’m cool with not getting everything I want but it feels like parents are getting nothing and teachers are getting everything.
You're not a teachers' aide or a tutor. What you're doing is called PARENTING, and, as a parent, supporting your kids in their education during a pandemic.
If it's your first time parenting, welcome!
Parents are happy to parent. What’s happening here is we’ve absorbed half of your job while teachers bitch at us for not being more grateful. All the bad decisions made by WTU and DCPS hurt us. You have nothing on the line. Calling in sick just rubs salt in the wound and shows me we were never on the same team.
Teachers have kids too.
Anonymous
11/02/2020 06:28
Subject: Mark Seagraves confirms the Nov 2nd Sick Out
I support the teachers!
Anonymous
11/02/2020 06:19
Subject: Re:Mark Seagraves confirms the Nov 2nd Sick Out
Kids need to go back to school period. I have teens who are great students and independent learners so I don't have to engage much with them on that front but there is so much more that's needed and that all students are missing out on. And for smaller children or those not in good environments this is so sad. LET'S AT LEAST TRY! YOU CAN'T FAIL IF YOU DON'T TRY! Stop living in fear and let's move forward. This disease won't go away. We can't keep hiding, we must learn to live with it and move forward. Seems like many other states and countries are placing children first. England locking down but now closing schools...hmm, children first. Teachers stop being so scared of the unknown. 20+ year Army retiree here, we just make a plan, execute it, if it fails, make a new plan. We don't just sit in fear in the corner waiting for someone else to take care of things. I'm over all this back and forth. JUST TRY!!!
Anonymous
11/02/2020 05:15
Subject: Mark Seagraves confirms the Nov 2nd Sick Out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good news!
I’m a parent, and I stand with the teachers.
DCPS Central Office and the Chancellor need to get their house in order, take a pause, ENGAGE parents and teachers, and aim to reopen with a real, safe, plan in Feb.
Thank you. You have no idea how much your support means. We support you and your family too! We are here for you and will be advocating for you and your families.
No you don't. Your stupid plan targets children and families instead of management. How do you people have no idea how to conduct a strike?
Dear previous teacher poster,
Please know that 1,000 DCPS parents signed this letter of solidarity with you.
ONE THOUSAND. In just a few days.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeEj2ex2OnG8RNLlt_6htHHNg8v6KKydXrVefwRE6kxyLDmGQ/closedform
There’s a lot of conservatives out there who want to damage public schools and damage unions, because a few rightwing billionaires can make money by privatizing education. And this opinion, for whatever reason, is overrepresented on DCUM.
Parents are with the teachers. DCPS has no good options because of Republicans mismanaging the pandemic.
But parents all know you’re trying hard.
Real DCPS parents reading this thread, I encourage you to send a note to your teachers now talking about what you’re happy about with their teaching, and saying you support them.
(I’m sure we’ll get more anti-union, anti-teacher replies to this. Ignore them!)
Dear clueless parent,
Please know that there is a large, silent majority of parents who think it’s a travesty. We aren’t conservatives, as much as you’d love to think that.
+100. Arch liberal here who's fed up with WTU refuseniks. Kids need to be back in school at least 2 days a week. I have a PhD, a lawyer spouse and a big house near Lincoln Park. Knowing that I'm struggling to help my little kids learn much of anything via DL, leaves me certain that most of the poor kids are screwed.
DCPS is proposing a reasonable reopening to help the most vulnerable young students, after WTU rejected their two-daily shifts proposal (a MUCH better approach) over the summer. The science just doesn't support the view that ES are super spreader events. NYC has hardly seen any Covid in schools in the past six weeks. Come on, WTU, stop playing hardball with Bowser over re-opening because you've had a fraught relationship with her all along.
Anonymous
11/02/2020 03:48
Subject: Mark Seagraves confirms the Nov 2nd Sick Out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good news!
I’m a parent, and I stand with the teachers.
DCPS Central Office and the Chancellor need to get their house in order, take a pause, ENGAGE parents and teachers, and aim to reopen with a real, safe, plan in Feb.
Thank you. You have no idea how much your support means. We support you and your family too! We are here for you and will be advocating for you and your families.
No you don't. Your stupid plan targets children and families instead of management. How do you people have no idea how to conduct a strike?
Dear previous teacher poster,
Please know that 1,000 DCPS parents signed this letter of solidarity with you.
ONE THOUSAND. In just a few days.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeEj2ex2OnG8RNLlt_6htHHNg8v6KKydXrVefwRE6kxyLDmGQ/closedform
There’s a lot of conservatives out there who want to damage public schools and damage unions, because a few rightwing billionaires can make money by privatizing education. And this opinion, for whatever reason, is overrepresented on DCUM.
Parents are with the teachers. DCPS has no good options because of Republicans mismanaging the pandemic.
But parents all know you’re trying hard.
Real DCPS parents reading this thread, I encourage you to send a note to your teachers now talking about what you’re happy about with their teaching, and saying you support them.
(I’m sure we’ll get more anti-union, anti-teacher replies to this. Ignore them!)
I’ll send a quick note. I’m pretty short on time though. I’m expected to bill 8 hrs a day to my regular job, be a teachers’ aide during the school day, well except tomorrow. On the evenings and weekends I’m a reading and math tutor. I hate this. Can’t we work together to find a solution? Compromise at all? I’m cool with not getting everything I want but it feels like parents are getting nothing and teachers are getting everything.
You're not a teachers' aide or a tutor. What you're doing is called PARENTING, and, as a parent, supporting your kids in their education during a pandemic.
If it's your first time parenting, welcome!
Parents are happy to parent. What’s happening here is we’ve absorbed half of your job while teachers bitch at us for not being more grateful. All the bad decisions made by WTU and DCPS hurt us. You have nothing on the line. Calling in sick just rubs salt in the wound and shows me we were never on the same team.
Anonymous
11/02/2020 03:39
Subject: Re:Mark Seagraves confirms the Nov 2nd Sick Out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am genuinely curious - how do teachers stick it to management without some sort of effect on students and families? Is it possible? Would it be doing a sickout on a records day or a PD day? I for one would have lived a direct message from my kid’s teacher if they are not going to be online tomorrow but not sure if it’s appropriate. It’s hard not to feel like all that happens is a disruption to kids.
Not fulfilling important administrative duties, sick out on a PD day, not performing standardized testing which gives the school important data, etc. There are ways to affect management without doing this dumb and illegal sickout. But they chose the option that is most harmful to students and has little or no effect on management.
Sick days are a right we have to take. Not doing important duties impacts my job. Not doing PD day makes more work for me. Not doing standardized testing could probably result in my license being revoked. Taking a sick day? Doesn’t impact me at all in a negative way. The others do.
I hope you lose your job.
They won't. Pop a blood vessel fuming about it.
Anonymous
11/02/2020 03:38
Subject: Mark Seagraves confirms the Nov 2nd Sick Out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good news!
I’m a parent, and I stand with the teachers.
DCPS Central Office and the Chancellor need to get their house in order, take a pause, ENGAGE parents and teachers, and aim to reopen with a real, safe, plan in Feb.
Thank you. You have no idea how much your support means. We support you and your family too! We are here for you and will be advocating for you and your families.
No you don't. Your stupid plan targets children and families instead of management. How do you people have no idea how to conduct a strike?
Dear previous teacher poster,
Please know that 1,000 DCPS parents signed this letter of solidarity with you.
ONE THOUSAND. In just a few days.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeEj2ex2OnG8RNLlt_6htHHNg8v6KKydXrVefwRE6kxyLDmGQ/closedform
There’s a lot of conservatives out there who want to damage public schools and damage unions, because a few rightwing billionaires can make money by privatizing education. And this opinion, for whatever reason, is overrepresented on DCUM.
Parents are with the teachers. DCPS has no good options because of Republicans mismanaging the pandemic.
But parents all know you’re trying hard.
Real DCPS parents reading this thread, I encourage you to send a note to your teachers now talking about what you’re happy about with their teaching, and saying you support them.
(I’m sure we’ll get more anti-union, anti-teacher replies to this. Ignore them!)
I’ll send a quick note. I’m pretty short on time though. I’m expected to bill 8 hrs a day to my regular job, be a teachers’ aide during the school day, well except tomorrow. On the evenings and weekends I’m a reading and math tutor. I hate this. Can’t we work together to find a solution? Compromise at all? I’m cool with not getting everything I want but it feels like parents are getting nothing and teachers are getting everything.
You're not a teachers' aide or a tutor. What you're doing is called PARENTING, and, as a parent, supporting your kids in their education during a pandemic.
If it's your first time parenting, welcome!
Anonymous
11/02/2020 03:35
Subject: Re:Mark Seagraves confirms the Nov 2nd Sick Out
Anonymous wrote:1,000 parents, is that even one percent?
It's somewhere between 9950 or 9900 (depending on whose inflated numbers you believe) more than the patents demanding on person who show up to their ridiculous "protests," so yeah, it's pretty significant.
Anonymous
11/02/2020 03:32
Subject: Mark Seagraves confirms the Nov 2nd Sick Out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good news!
I’m a parent, and I stand with the teachers.
DCPS Central Office and the Chancellor need to get their house in order, take a pause, ENGAGE parents and teachers, and aim to reopen with a real, safe, plan in Feb.
Thank you. You have no idea how much your support means. We support you and your family too! We are here for you and will be advocating for you and your families.
No you don't. Your stupid plan targets children and families instead of management. How do you people have no idea how to conduct a strike?
Dear previous teacher poster,
Please know that 1,000 DCPS parents signed this letter of solidarity with you.
ONE THOUSAND. In just a few days.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeEj2ex2OnG8RNLlt_6htHHNg8v6KKydXrVefwRE6kxyLDmGQ/closedform
There’s a lot of conservatives out there who want to damage public schools and damage unions, because a few rightwing billionaires can make money by privatizing education. And this opinion, for whatever reason, is overrepresented on DCUM.
Parents are with the teachers. DCPS has no good options because of Republicans mismanaging the pandemic.
But parents all know you’re trying hard.
Real DCPS parents reading this thread, I encourage you to send a note to your teachers now talking about what you’re happy about with their teaching, and saying you support them.
(I’m sure we’ll get more anti-union, anti-teacher replies to this. Ignore them!)
Dear clueless parent,
Please know that there is a large, silent majority of parents who think it’s a travesty. We aren’t conservatives, as much as you’d love to think that.
Aww, this is so cute. In the 90s online, this was known as the "all the lurkers agree with me" fallacy.
BS.
Anonymous
11/02/2020 03:30
Subject: Mark Seagraves confirms the Nov 2nd Sick Out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good news!
I’m a parent, and I stand with the teachers.
DCPS Central Office and the Chancellor need to get their house in order, take a pause, ENGAGE parents and teachers, and aim to reopen with a real, safe, plan in Feb.
Thank you. You have no idea how much your support means. We support you and your family too! We are here for you and will be advocating for you and your families.
Oh no you do not support families. Not at all. If you did, you’d be doing your jobs.
They are doing their jobs. Too bad if you don't like it.
Anonymous
11/01/2020 22:57
Subject: Mark Seagraves confirms the Nov 2nd Sick Out
The teachers have lost so much respect from this, and oh boy, just wait until parents find out tomorrow. So shortsighted. Win the battle, lose the war.
It they even win the battle.
I would assume DCPS could show this as a work stoppage and claim breach of contract.
It they even win the battle.
I would assume DCPS could show this as a work stoppage and claim breach of contract.
Anonymous
11/01/2020 22:43
Subject: Mark Seagraves confirms the Nov 2nd Sick Out
Our teacher has called out tomorrow. I’m so upset at the shit show that is DCPS.