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Post 11/19/2020 14:22     Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
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I struggle to believe that SYC's 2008 boys top team beat Alexandria's 2008 boys top team in MLS NEXT play.


No idea. I am sure that MLS Next teams drew in new players for SYC and will continue to do so for both clubs. I know this was the first weekend of play for Alexandria, and both Alexandria and Bethesda were among the last clubs to begin full contact practicing (I think Alexandria started about four to eight weeks later than Fairfax). I know a few top Bethesda teams also had a few surprising results given their late start. All of that began to straighten out as the season went on. I am sure the clubs will scrimmage when the weather improves and people will beat their chest over what happens.


You struggle to believe? That must be hard for you. I'm sorry it's hard for you.


You are responding to the wrong person. I don't struggle to believe that in the first game in nearly a year, one group of 12 year olds may move to another. I also don't struggle to believe what I have seen, which is that the biggest coaching innovation that SYC seems to teach its players is that an individual player can do kick and run all by himself. It's pure genius, along with display of math involving more than single digits in tallying the wins and losses in the earlier post. Clown.


I'm not previous poster but they also played about a month ago as well and SYC 08 also beat Alexandria. On that same evening Alexandria 07 beat SYC. Not sure what the result was during the first weekend. I think the 08 game was more of an even game than the 07.



Correct, they played twice this fall season already. The syc 2008 boys won 2-0 the first time and 3-0 the second time. Alexandria beat syc 07s 3-1


DS is an 08 at neighboring club and we attended all both ASA/SYC MLS games and plan to try out next spring for both sides. Alexandria 08 boys controlled both games and clearly are better coached and have higher soccer IQs. They had methodical build up and created many chances though not able to convert. SYC played very direct kick and run to a very skilled 9 who scored or assisted nearly all of the 5 goals across both matches. Alexandria 08 backs lack speed, and as a whole Alexandria 08 is extremely susceptible to the counter and have suspect finishing.


Soooo... play to your strengths and the opponent’s weaknesses?


Yes! If results are what you care about vs. player development, that is the answer.
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Post 11/19/2020 14:18     Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
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I struggle to believe that SYC's 2008 boys top team beat Alexandria's 2008 boys top team in MLS NEXT play.


No idea. I am sure that MLS Next teams drew in new players for SYC and will continue to do so for both clubs. I know this was the first weekend of play for Alexandria, and both Alexandria and Bethesda were among the last clubs to begin full contact practicing (I think Alexandria started about four to eight weeks later than Fairfax). I know a few top Bethesda teams also had a few surprising results given their late start. All of that began to straighten out as the season went on. I am sure the clubs will scrimmage when the weather improves and people will beat their chest over what happens.


You struggle to believe? That must be hard for you. I'm sorry it's hard for you.


You are responding to the wrong person. I don't struggle to believe that in the first game in nearly a year, one group of 12 year olds may move to another. I also don't struggle to believe what I have seen, which is that the biggest coaching innovation that SYC seems to teach its players is that an individual player can do kick and run all by himself. It's pure genius, along with display of math involving more than single digits in tallying the wins and losses in the earlier post. Clown.


I'm not previous poster but they also played about a month ago as well and SYC 08 also beat Alexandria. On that same evening Alexandria 07 beat SYC. Not sure what the result was during the first weekend. I think the 08 game was more of an even game than the 07.



Correct, they played twice this fall season already. The syc 2008 boys won 2-0 the first time and 3-0 the second time. Alexandria beat syc 07s 3-1


DS is an 08 at neighboring club and we attended all both ASA/SYC MLS games and plan to try out next spring for both sides. Alexandria 08 boys controlled both games and clearly are better coached and have higher soccer IQs. They had methodical build up and created many chances though not able to convert. SYC played very direct kick and run to a very skilled 9 who scored or assisted nearly all of the 5 goals across both matches. Alexandria 08 backs lack speed, and as a whole Alexandria 08 is extremely susceptible to the counter and have suspect finishing.


Soooo... play to your strengths and the opponent’s weaknesses?
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Post 11/19/2020 13:47     Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
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I struggle to believe that SYC's 2008 boys top team beat Alexandria's 2008 boys top team in MLS NEXT play.


No idea. I am sure that MLS Next teams drew in new players for SYC and will continue to do so for both clubs. I know this was the first weekend of play for Alexandria, and both Alexandria and Bethesda were among the last clubs to begin full contact practicing (I think Alexandria started about four to eight weeks later than Fairfax). I know a few top Bethesda teams also had a few surprising results given their late start. All of that began to straighten out as the season went on. I am sure the clubs will scrimmage when the weather improves and people will beat their chest over what happens.


You struggle to believe? That must be hard for you. I'm sorry it's hard for you.


You are responding to the wrong person. I don't struggle to believe that in the first game in nearly a year, one group of 12 year olds may move to another. I also don't struggle to believe what I have seen, which is that the biggest coaching innovation that SYC seems to teach its players is that an individual player can do kick and run all by himself. It's pure genius, along with display of math involving more than single digits in tallying the wins and losses in the earlier post. Clown.


I'm not previous poster but they also played about a month ago as well and SYC 08 also beat Alexandria. On that same evening Alexandria 07 beat SYC. Not sure what the result was during the first weekend. I think the 08 game was more of an even game than the 07.



Correct, they played twice this fall season already. The syc 2008 boys won 2-0 the first time and 3-0 the second time. Alexandria beat syc 07s 3-1


DS is an 08 at neighboring club and we attended all both ASA/SYC MLS games and plan to try out next spring for both sides. Alexandria 08 boys controlled both games and clearly are better coached and have higher soccer IQs. They had methodical build up and created many chances though not able to convert. SYC played very direct kick and run to a very skilled 9 who scored or assisted nearly all of the 5 goals across both matches. Alexandria 08 backs lack speed, and as a whole Alexandria 08 is extremely susceptible to the counter and have suspect finishing.
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Post 11/19/2020 12:59     Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
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I struggle to believe that SYC's 2008 boys top team beat Alexandria's 2008 boys top team in MLS NEXT play.


No idea. I am sure that MLS Next teams drew in new players for SYC and will continue to do so for both clubs. I know this was the first weekend of play for Alexandria, and both Alexandria and Bethesda were among the last clubs to begin full contact practicing (I think Alexandria started about four to eight weeks later than Fairfax). I know a few top Bethesda teams also had a few surprising results given their late start. All of that began to straighten out as the season went on. I am sure the clubs will scrimmage when the weather improves and people will beat their chest over what happens.


You struggle to believe? That must be hard for you. I'm sorry it's hard for you.


You are responding to the wrong person. I don't struggle to believe that in the first game in nearly a year, one group of 12 year olds may move to another. I also don't struggle to believe what I have seen, which is that the biggest coaching innovation that SYC seems to teach its players is that an individual player can do kick and run all by himself. It's pure genius, along with display of math involving more than single digits in tallying the wins and losses in the earlier post. Clown.


I'm not previous poster but they also played about a month ago as well and SYC 08 also beat Alexandria. On that same evening Alexandria 07 beat SYC. Not sure what the result was during the first weekend. I think the 08 game was more of an even game than the 07.



Correct, they played twice this fall season already. The syc 2008 boys won 2-0 the first time and 3-0 the second time. Alexandria beat syc 07s 3-1


I'm don't have a kid in either Alexandria or SYC, but I came to watch the 07 boys play this match because my friend's son plays for Alexandria. Anyway, there was a big issue with game. The substitution rules were new and unclear. SYC subbed out some of their best players and, because of the new rules of only 3 moments and no returns in the same half or something, SYC's players weren't allowed to sub back in and the Alexandria coach made a big stink and wouldn't let it slide. As a result, Alexandria was able to come back and win this match as they were down 0-1 at half and struggling. Now...I I'm just saying this because you guys are all nuts. I just want to point out that something as simple as a new sub rule could really affect a game. And by the way...who really gives a shit if Arlington is better than Alexandria is better than SYC, etc. You guys are worrying about the wrong crap. You guys probably are in debt because you bought a BMW that you couldn't afford just because your neighbor bought one.
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Post 11/19/2020 12:46     Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
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I struggle to believe that SYC's 2008 boys top team beat Alexandria's 2008 boys top team in MLS NEXT play.


No idea. I am sure that MLS Next teams drew in new players for SYC and will continue to do so for both clubs. I know this was the first weekend of play for Alexandria, and both Alexandria and Bethesda were among the last clubs to begin full contact practicing (I think Alexandria started about four to eight weeks later than Fairfax). I know a few top Bethesda teams also had a few surprising results given their late start. All of that began to straighten out as the season went on. I am sure the clubs will scrimmage when the weather improves and people will beat their chest over what happens.


You struggle to believe? That must be hard for you. I'm sorry it's hard for you.


You are responding to the wrong person. I don't struggle to believe that in the first game in nearly a year, one group of 12 year olds may move to another. I also don't struggle to believe what I have seen, which is that the biggest coaching innovation that SYC seems to teach its players is that an individual player can do kick and run all by himself. It's pure genius, along with display of math involving more than single digits in tallying the wins and losses in the earlier post. Clown.


I'm not previous poster but they also played about a month ago as well and SYC 08 also beat Alexandria. On that same evening Alexandria 07 beat SYC. Not sure what the result was during the first weekend. I think the 08 game was more of an even game than the 07.



Correct, they played twice this fall season already. The syc 2008 boys won 2-0 the first time and 3-0 the second time. Alexandria beat syc 07s 3-1
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Post 11/19/2020 12:45     Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
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I struggle to believe that SYC's 2008 boys top team beat Alexandria's 2008 boys top team in MLS NEXT play.


No idea. I am sure that MLS Next teams drew in new players for SYC and will continue to do so for both clubs. I know this was the first weekend of play for Alexandria, and both Alexandria and Bethesda were among the last clubs to begin full contact practicing (I think Alexandria started about four to eight weeks later than Fairfax). I know a few top Bethesda teams also had a few surprising results given their late start. All of that began to straighten out as the season went on. I am sure the clubs will scrimmage when the weather improves and people will beat their chest over what happens.


You struggle to believe? That must be hard for you. I'm sorry it's hard for you.


You are responding to the wrong person. I don't struggle to believe that in the first game in nearly a year, one group of 12 year olds may move to another. I also don't struggle to believe what I have seen, which is that the biggest coaching innovation that SYC seems to teach its players is that an individual player can do kick and run all by himself. It's pure genius, along with display of math involving more than single digits in tallying the wins and losses in the earlier post. Clown.


I'm not previous poster but they also played about a month ago as well and SYC 08 also beat Alexandria. On that same evening Alexandria 07 beat SYC. Not sure what the result was during the first weekend. I think the 08 game was more of an even game than the 07.


Correct, they played twice this fall season already. The syc 2008 boys won 2-0 the first time and 3-0 the second time. Alexandria beat syc 07s 3-1
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Post 11/19/2020 11:53     Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
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I struggle to believe that SYC's 2008 boys top team beat Alexandria's 2008 boys top team in MLS NEXT play.


No idea. I am sure that MLS Next teams drew in new players for SYC and will continue to do so for both clubs. I know this was the first weekend of play for Alexandria, and both Alexandria and Bethesda were among the last clubs to begin full contact practicing (I think Alexandria started about four to eight weeks later than Fairfax). I know a few top Bethesda teams also had a few surprising results given their late start. All of that began to straighten out as the season went on. I am sure the clubs will scrimmage when the weather improves and people will beat their chest over what happens.


You struggle to believe? That must be hard for you. I'm sorry it's hard for you.


You are responding to the wrong person. I don't struggle to believe that in the first game in nearly a year, one group of 12 year olds may move to another. I also don't struggle to believe what I have seen, which is that the biggest coaching innovation that SYC seems to teach its players is that an individual player can do kick and run all by himself. It's pure genius, along with display of math involving more than single digits in tallying the wins and losses in the earlier post. Clown.


I'm not previous poster but they also played about a month ago as well and SYC 08 also beat Alexandria. On that same evening Alexandria 07 beat SYC. Not sure what the result was during the first weekend. I think the 08 game was more of an even game than the 07.
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Post 11/19/2020 08:59     Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
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I struggle to believe that SYC's 2008 boys top team beat Alexandria's 2008 boys top team in MLS NEXT play.


No idea. I am sure that MLS Next teams drew in new players for SYC and will continue to do so for both clubs. I know this was the first weekend of play for Alexandria, and both Alexandria and Bethesda were among the last clubs to begin full contact practicing (I think Alexandria started about four to eight weeks later than Fairfax). I know a few top Bethesda teams also had a few surprising results given their late start. All of that began to straighten out as the season went on. I am sure the clubs will scrimmage when the weather improves and people will beat their chest over what happens.


You struggle to believe? That must be hard for you. I'm sorry it's hard for you.


You are responding to the wrong person. I don't struggle to believe that in the first game in nearly a year, one group of 12 year olds may move to another. I also don't struggle to believe what I have seen, which is that the biggest coaching innovation that SYC seems to teach its players is that an individual player can do kick and run all by himself. It's pure genius, along with display of math involving more than single digits in tallying the wins and losses in the earlier post. Clown.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2020 08:52     Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
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I struggle to believe that SYC's 2008 boys top team beat Alexandria's 2008 boys top team in MLS NEXT play.


No idea. I am sure that MLS Next teams drew in new players for SYC and will continue to do so for both clubs. I know this was the first weekend of play for Alexandria, and both Alexandria and Bethesda were among the last clubs to begin full contact practicing (I think Alexandria started about four to eight weeks later than Fairfax). I know a few top Bethesda teams also had a few surprising results given their late start. All of that began to straighten out as the season went on. I am sure the clubs will scrimmage when the weather improves and people will beat their chest over what happens.


You struggle to believe? That must be hard for you. I'm sorry it's hard for you.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2020 08:39     Subject: What does everyone think about SYC




I struggle to believe that SYC's 2008 boys top team beat Alexandria's 2008 boys top team in MLS NEXT play.


No idea. I am sure that MLS Next teams drew in new players for SYC and will continue to do so for both clubs. I know this was the first weekend of play for Alexandria, and both Alexandria and Bethesda were among the last clubs to begin full contact practicing (I think Alexandria started about four to eight weeks later than Fairfax). I know a few top Bethesda teams also had a few surprising results given their late start. All of that began to straighten out as the season went on. I am sure the clubs will scrimmage when the weather improves and people will beat their chest over what happens.
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Post 11/19/2020 08:06     Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
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Anonymous wrote:Sorry to be imprecise - I did not mean to imply Arlington overcharges at all, just that they would be a stock with little upside since they are at the top right now - that's all. On ECNL, no doubt they are better than CCL, but the local teams playing in ECNL (other than VDA and Arlington) are not better than other top teams in this area in the U13-15 range, including SYC. Hope to see Arlington and VDA in MLS Next. Probably not both but at least one of them.


Rumor is that Arlington will put their Academy Teams into MLS Next and their Red Teams to take their ECNL slots next year.


Not gonna lie I stopped at “rumor is”


Arlington's U13 team is currently in the 10th place in ECNL. It is certainly not the cream de la creme relative to its ECNL competition.


Yes, but
(1) That is probably Arlington's weakest team.
(2) U13 seems to be a group where the VA teams are actually quite strong.
(3) ECNL would presumably make the decision based on all of Arlington's teams - not just the weakest one. So, ignoring U19 as it wll have aged out, Arlington is currently 1st, 3rd, 3rd, and 6th at the other age groups.
(4) Even that is to some degree irrelevant, as presumably it is the performance of the second teams which would matter for this decision. So in CCL, you have the following standings for U12 through U17: 3rd, 10th, 10th, 11th, 8th, 14th.

If ECNL is a stronger league then (4) would suggest that Arlington won't (or at least shouldn't) get its second teams accepted into ECNL. I'm not sure that this is the case though - anybody have a good feel for the relative strength of the mid-Atlantic ECNL teams vs CCL?


I think the Red Team point is a good one (you have to be careful about standings because there are variances in how many matches certain clubs have played). Putting that aside, I don't think there is any question that Arlington Red teams in CCL would be competitive vs BRYC or McLean U13-16, and perhaps even some Loudoun teams. I think you also need to consider that they will also divert kids who might go to BRYC or Arlington by having more roster space available for kids who might have been forced to go elsewhere.


I am sure that ECNL is happy to have Arlington's top teams, but I don't think that Red teams will be competitive against ECNL teams. Arlington U14 Red lost to Alexandria 1-4. Arlington U15 Red lost to Alexandria 0-5. Why would ECNL want Arlington's B teams, which are not particularly competitive against good non-ECNL clubs, like Alexandria?


The Alexandria U14 team that you are referencing plays MLS league, they wouldn't go to ECNL. The U15 won state cup 2 years ago and probably would have won last year but competition was cancelled due to covid. I wouldn't be surprised if Alexandria also received MLS for this team next year at U16.


Players are already leaving. Sure, maybe MLS but definitely not State Cup champs this year.


Fair enough - U15 had players leave for DCU, as may U14. That is part of the MLS Next vision, though quite obviously DCU will take the best regardless of club of origin.


Exactly. Alexandria would remain in MLS and not consider ECNL which is a level below. I think both Alexandria and SYC will benefit from being in MLS by attracting players at an earlier age which can then funnel up to DC United once at the appropriate age to join their academy. Arlington will benefit in the same way if they join MLS but that would leave 3 clubs in extremely close proximity.


Does SYC and Alex have better programs for boys soccer than girls? How/what do their top girls teams do?
Do


Results of the last time SYC and Alexandria top teams played each other (fall 2020)

2012 Girls - SYC W
2012 Boys - SYC W
2012 Boys (B) - SYC W
2012 Girls (B)- SYC W
2011 Girls -SYC W
2011 Girls (B) - SYC W
2011 Boys -SYC W
2011 Boys (B)- SYC W
2010 Girls - SYC W
2010 Boys - SYC W
2009 Girls - Alexandria W
2009 Boys -SYC W
2008 MLS NEXT - SYC W
2007 MLS NEXT - Alexandria W
2008 Girls - SYC W
2007 Girls - SYC W
2006 Boys - SYC W
2006 Girls - SYC W
2005 Boys- TIE
2005 Girls- SYC W
2004 Girls - Tie
2004 boys- SYC W
2003 boy- SYC W

Total:
Syc won: 19
Alexandria won: 2
Tied: 2





I struggle to believe that SYC's 2008 boys top team beat Alexandria's 2008 boys top team in MLS NEXT play.
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Post 11/18/2020 22:08     Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
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Anonymous wrote:Alexandria and SYC's top teams are competitive with Arlington's Red teams.


Are Arlington’s red teams their “top teams”?


No, their ECNL (former DA) teams are the top teams.
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Post 11/18/2020 21:26     Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
Anonymous wrote:Alexandria and SYC's top teams are competitive with Arlington's Red teams.


Are Arlington’s red teams their “top teams”?
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Post 11/18/2020 16:52     Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
Alexandria and SYC's top teams are competitive with Arlington's Red teams.
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Post 11/18/2020 16:07     Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
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Anonymous wrote:Arlington’s U15 boys beat SYC 6-1 in State Cup. Wouldn’t be any different against Alexandria.

Arlington is the class of NoVA, this isn’t controversial.


I would say it’s contestable. We will see what happens. But if you like preening peacocks who strut around barking like this idiot, you are either a Duke fan or an Arlington soccer parent, or both. We will take your scalps by the end of the year.


It is contestable. Put the best of your club vs the best of Arlington, Arlington overwhelmingly wins (and not the closest of scores).