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Anonymous wrote:Yes our charter gave a power point presentation to all families with specific plans for Nov for the neediest kid for supervised DL and hybrid for all in Jan.

Presentation above included things happening now in regards to HVAC and filters, classroom restructuring, outside space restructuring. Plans also included specifics on school cleaning and process, bathroom logistics issues, sinks, fountains, etc... They also addressed flow of people in building (1 way), lunch logistics, classroom containment, student screening, process if staff/student contracted Covid, etc...

I thought it was a really well prepared plan and feel re-assured about it.

What school?

MV. Presentation above addressed needs and logistics of both campuses.

So you take this to mean they will actually go through with hybrid in January? Did they promise? I don’t trust any of the schools to open in midwinter no matter what they are saying.

Are you able to predict how the pandemic is going to turn out? When numbers will increase or decrease?

Of course they are not promising, saying with 100% certainty. Tell me who will do that? Of course it is going to be how the next 3 months play out with numbers in DC, etc....

But that is the tentative plan if things go well with the 1st phase of limited kids in school. They are just not talk at least. They presented a definitive plan with definitive measures and physical things being done at the school, thought out processes and workflow, logistics for lunch, class containment, workflow of positivity, etc...

So they will be ready to go and not winging things. From what it sounds like on this thread, they are much further ahead in communicating, planning, and implementation than many schools.

Lastly, look at the winter that just passed and flu rates in the Southern Hemisphere. It was good and not high. This is likely because the majority of people wore mask and social distance

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Anonymous wrote:63% of 450 Two Rivers families expressed a preference for distance learning.

Perfect, then the other 47% can go hybrid in person. Problem solved.

No, the schools will just stay 100% DL. Problem solved.

If TR decides above to be the case, then good luck for next year. With the middle school moving to Young and a whole school year of no in person learning, especially if other charters move forward with hybrid, TR is going to take a big hit.

Clearly they are not on the side of science and the numbers.

And 63% of those surveyed wanting DL is not the majority of families either.

But it doesn’t matter. Do y’all know math or statistics; gesh. 37% didn’t respond but it’s a non-issue.

Really because I think you are the one in error of the math. Re-read previous post:

Family Data Summary
● 67% of families responded (459 families) ○ Families representing 63% of TR students
prefered their students attend school remotely.
○ Families representing 37% of TR students preferred their students to attend in-person.

It’s not 37% that did not respond. It’s 33%. 37% of those that responded wanted in person. So your point is the 33% that did not respond for whatever reason doesn’t matter then. Guess those families opinions are a non-issue.

Just let the 63% of the 67% families who responded for DL which really comes out to only 42% dictate DL for everyone else.

I hope your opinion doesn’t represent the majority of the TR community.

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Anonymous wrote:63% of 450 Two Rivers families expressed a preference for distance learning.

Also break that down by grade level

By grade level breakdown of who preferred distance learning:
PK 3 48
PK4 56
K 59
1 60
2 64
3 61
4 66
5 77
6 72
7 69
8 67


Black, Hispanic, Native American and Asian families preferred distance learning at a rate of more than 70%

White and multiracial families preferences were closer to 50-50

62% of kids with IEP preferred remote

Free and reduced lunch slight preference for remote

English language learners 75% preferred remote

72 percent of staff were not comfortable coming back in person.

TR will offers an option for in person PK3 and PK4 but it is unclear how many spaces.

Saw the PowerPoint on another thread.

It mentioned in person social meet up with teachers and classmates, outdoors. Did you do that? Have any other schools tried this?

Our school is doing after school meetups by grade, just to play, and it's been very successful.

Hospital workers can’t get a new N95 each day so it is unreasonable to ask for that. It would also be impossible to wear one the full day.

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Anonymous wrote:63% of 450 Two Rivers families expressed a preference for distance learning.

Perfect, then the other 47% can go hybrid in person. Problem solved.

No, the schools will just stay 100% DL. Problem solved.

If TR decides above to be the case, then good luck for next year. With the middle school moving to Young and a whole school year of no in person learning, especially if other charters move forward with hybrid, TR is going to take a big hit.

Clearly they are not on the side of science and the numbers.

And 63% of those surveyed wanting DL is not the majority of families either.

But it doesn’t matter. Do y’all know math or statistics; gesh. 37% didn’t respond but it’s a non-issue.

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Anonymous wrote:63% of 450 Two Rivers families expressed a preference for distance learning.

Perfect, then the other 47% can go hybrid in person. Problem solved.

No, the schools will just stay 100% DL. Problem solved.

If TR decides above to be the case, then good luck for next year. With the middle school moving to Young and a whole school year of no in person learning, especially if other charters move forward with hybrid, TR is going to take a big hit.

Clearly they are not on the side of science and the numbers.

And 63% of those surveyed wanting DL is not the majority of families either.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like the WTU is holding a rally at Ft Reno this Saturday at 11 am.

I'll try to post the flyers.

Spread the word if you are interested in stopping this plan.

Is WTU proposing a different plan? I am open to alternative plans but extremely frustrated by the treading water that has been occurring.

This. The WTU's positions so far have been ridiculous. If they were to propose something reasonable (N95 masks, really?) I would be happy to support them. But they pretty much just have a head shaking response to everything.

Here’s what WTU wants. What’s unreasonable about wanting N95s??? DCPS won’t even provide masks for students!

https://www.wtulocal6.net/statement_on_in_person_learning

Is that an accurate statement? My DCPS school said they would provide children with masks.

Schools will provide paper masks not N95s.

What is the plan for children that are unable to wear masks?

Of course the school isn’t providing every single student with a new n95 mask each day (which is what you would need for it to be meaningful). That would be a horrendous waste of resources and totally unnecessary.

To put this ask in perspective, ER docs don’t get n95s except when dealing with confirmed COVID positive patients for a non-incidental period of time or when doing certain procedures on patients (intimating and other high risk of aerosolization procedures) on patients for whom tests haven’t come back. They literally don’t get n95s when examining sick patients with COVID symptoms pre-diagnosis. That’s how scarce those resources are at the moment. But sure, yeah, reasonable ask WTU.

OK, that's fine. If you aren't willing to provide the necessary supplies to have daily prolonged indoor contact for multiple hours, then you can continue learning at home. There's your "reasonable ask."

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like the WTU is holding a rally at Ft Reno this Saturday at 11 am.

I'll try to post the flyers.

Spread the word if you are interested in stopping this plan.

Is WTU proposing a different plan? I am open to alternative plans but extremely frustrated by the treading water that has been occurring.

This. The WTU's positions so far have been ridiculous. If they were to propose something reasonable (N95 masks, really?) I would be happy to support them. But they pretty much just have a head shaking response to everything.

Here’s what WTU wants. What’s unreasonable about wanting N95s??? DCPS won’t even provide masks for students!

https://www.wtulocal6.net/statement_on_in_person_learning

Is that an accurate statement? My DCPS school said they would provide children with masks.

Schools will provide paper masks not N95s.

What is the plan for children that are unable to wear masks?

Of course the school isn’t providing every single student with a new n95 mask each day (which is what you would need for it to be meaningful). That would be a horrendous waste of resources and totally unnecessary.

WRONG.

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Anonymous wrote:63% of 450 Two Rivers families expressed a preference for distance learning.

Perfect, then the other 47% can go hybrid in person. Problem solved.

Also, 63 + 47 does not equal 100, but good try. LOL.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:63% of 450 Two Rivers families expressed a preference for distance learning.

Perfect, then the other 47% can go hybrid in person. Problem solved.

No, the schools will just stay 100% DL. Problem solved.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:63% of 450 Two Rivers families expressed a preference for distance learning.

Also break that down by grade level

By grade level breakdown of who preferred distance learning:
PK 3 48
PK4 56
K 59
1 60
2 64
3 61
4 66
5 77
6 72
7 69
8 67


Black, Hispanic, Native American and Asian families preferred distance learning at a rate of more than 70%

White and multiracial families preferences were closer to 50-50

62% of kids with IEP preferred remote

Free and reduced lunch slight preference for remote

English language learners 75% preferred remote

72 percent of staff were not comfortable coming back in person.

TR will offers an option for in person PK3 and PK4 but it is unclear how many spaces.

Saw the PowerPoint on another thread.

It mentioned in person social meet up with teachers and classmates, outdoors. Did you do that? Have any other schools tried this?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:63% of 450 Two Rivers families expressed a preference for distance learning.

Also break that down by grade level

By grade level breakdown of who preferred distance learning:
PK 3 48
PK4 56
K 59
1 60
2 64
3 61
4 66
5 77
6 72
7 69
8 67


Black, Hispanic, Native American and Asian families preferred distance learning at a rate of more than 70%

White and multiracial families preferences were closer to 50-50

62% of kids with IEP preferred remote

Free and reduced lunch slight preference for remote

English language learners 75% preferred remote

72 percent of staff were not comfortable coming back in person.

TR will offers an option for in person PK3 and PK4 but it is unclear how many spaces.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes our charter gave a power point presentation to all families with specific plans for Nov for the neediest kid for supervised DL and hybrid for all in Jan.

Presentation above included things happening now in regards to HVAC and filters, classroom restructuring, outside space restructuring. Plans also included specifics on school cleaning and process, bathroom logistics issues, sinks, fountains, etc... They also addressed flow of people in building (1 way), lunch logistics, classroom containment, student screening, process if staff/student contracted Covid, etc...

I thought it was a really well prepared plan and feel re-assured about it.

What school?

MV. Presentation above addressed needs and logistics of both campuses.

So you take this to mean they will actually go through with hybrid in January? Did they promise? I don’t trust any of the schools to open in midwinter no matter what they are saying.

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Anonymous wrote:The WTU checklist does not call for N95 masks for all teaching personnel.

Soap. It says teachers won't go back unless they can be guaranteed that there is adequate soap in their building. And my god, the fact that they have to even ask about this is appalling.

"Is there a functional sink in the nurse's office?"
"Does the nurse's office have a phone capable of calling outside lines?"

Many of the items on the checklist should be SOP in normal times. The fact that teachers feel that they need to push the district on getting SOAP in the building is telling. I trust teachers to understand the conditions that they normally work under, and frankly, I think they've saved hundreds of lives already by standing firm on this.

the fact that teachers can’t organize themselves and their parent communities to get some soap is actually the concerning thing here

come on. we’re in an emergency. I think teachers can figure out how to get some soap ...

We do figure out how to pay for soap. At the school I work at in Northeast, the TEACHERS buy soap for the teacher and student bathrooms throughout the year. Our parents don't have the resources to pay for these necessaries for all students all year long, along with tissues and paper towels and everything else that the school doesn't provide. People on this board argue constantly of the need for schools to reopen for the benefit of at-risk students, but then when the WTU puts forward a list of demands (some reasonable, some way over the top) you call it unreasonable and absurd.

Sure, there are some things on the checklist that are totally unreasonable. That is why this is a PROPOSED document. As far as I know, the WTU has proposed this checklist for negotiation, which the chancellor's office has refused to engage in. In a negotiation, it makes sense to start with some things that might have to come out during negotiations. But the fact that the chancellor and the mayor will not even consider putting into writing that they will have soap in every bathroom and functional sinks in the nurse's office is something I find extremely telling.

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Anonymous wrote:The WTU checklist does not call for N95 masks for all teaching personnel.

Soap. It says teachers won't go back unless they can be guaranteed that there is adequate soap in their building. And my god, the fact that they have to even ask about this is appalling.

"Is there a functional sink in the nurse's office?"
"Does the nurse's office have a phone capable of calling outside lines?"

Many of the items on the checklist should be SOP in normal times. The fact that teachers feel that they need to push the district on getting SOAP in the building is telling. I trust teachers to understand the conditions that they normally work under, and frankly, I think they've saved hundreds of lives already by standing firm on this.

here’s the problem with your “SOP” line. If the demand is that ALL pre-existing issues be solved before kids go back ... school will never reopen. What this suggests is that WTU is trying to use COVID as a bargaining chip to get concessions that have nothing to do with COVID. Which is really gross.

Yes. Exactly this. It’s not that the WTU doesn’t have some reasonable demands and shouldn’t have a seat at the table, it’s that they’ve way overreached and are asking for things that cannot be provided and things that have nothing to do with COVID. They justify this because of the loss of trust, yadda yadda. Fine, but now that your essentially my kids schooling hostage to your wider labor disputes, to say I am no longer sympathetic is an understatement. I genuinely think this will hurt the WTU’s standing in the long run and make it more likely legislation is passed cutting the union’s powers. 5 years from now the WTU will realize they overplayed their hand.