Anonymous wrote:PP here with the ex in academia, they have texts that she sent people saying that her mother was raped by her father but all her abuelas (grandparents) are Black. People knew that she was fishy, but when she said that her conception was from rape nobody wanted to open that can of worms. He said she probably could have flew under the radar and passed if she hadn't had such an over the top portrayal of an Afro Latina and the extreme aggression that she used in calling out POC academics on their bona fides, scholarship and commitment.

I'm another BIPOC PP, in academia. This is the same picture I've been hearing.

F her.
She doesn’t make my day any better or worse

Here’s what pisses me off: she took advantage of individuals’ niceness AND made a mockery of POC in academia. If someone tells me they are Latina/White/AA/Asian, I’m not going to question it. 98% of Americans are good natured and will accept at face value. We are a country of immigrants filled with centuries of interracial relations (both consensual and nonconsensual). Mixed race ancestry is NORMAL in our country. Even people who think they are white will likely have other races/ethnicities mixed in their DNA and won’t discovered it until they do a genetic test.

She essentially took advantage of an American cultural practice where we let people live the identity they were told from birth. She took advantage of everyone - fellow academics, students, employers, friends - who just accepted her for who she was. She has done irreparable damage to institutional trust and POC who are trying to compete at elite levels and who often don’t get a fair shake. It’s disgusting.

-A White Man

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Anonymous wrote:She doesn’t look black at all. She doesn’t even look mixed.

Don’t be ridiculous. Vanessa Williams has stunning blue eyes with very pale skin. You can be black and “look white” as it were.

It's not just about eye/skin/hair coloring though - it's facial features and bone structure. Vanessa Williams absolutely looks like she has Black ancestry. Krug definitely does not look Black. She looks like a white girl who died her hair black with a bad home box kit, to rebel against her parents.

My husband (who is black) used to work at GWU. He knows her. He thought she was black. I have so many black friends who legit look white, that she looked black to me too (I'm also black).

Hasn't anybody seen Soul Man? Nothing is new under the sun.

Re: PP saying people do not use transgender identity to get ahead... it's cropping up more frequently that men are identifying as transwomen in wrestling, cycling and other competitive sports and creaming the true female athletes. Also the PA Health Comish identifies as a woman now and I don't think he/she (they?) would have received that plummy position if the woke optics or cries of discrimination weren't a factor.

Meant sad, not said.

Anonymous wrote:PP here with the ex in academia, they have texts that she sent people saying that her mother was raped by her father but all her abuelas (grandparents) are Black. People knew that she was fishy, but when she said that her conception was from rape nobody wanted to open that can of worms. He said she probably could have flew under the radar and passed if she hadn't had such an over the top portrayal of an Afro Latina and the extreme aggression that she used in calling out POC academics on their bona fides, scholarship and commitment.

Different PP with passing black relatives. That is very, very said. More than anything I feel pity for her.

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Anonymous wrote:She doesn’t look black at all. She doesn’t even look mixed.

Don’t be ridiculous. Vanessa Williams has stunning blue eyes with very pale skin. You can be black and “look white” as it were.

She looks nothing like Vanessa Williams or Rashida Jones.

This lady just looks white. No clue why anyone would think she’s black.

It’s not about what you look like. Does this guy look black to you?

Both his parents are mixed raced African Americans. He’s black.

Congressman from NC. Butterfield.
Who is he?

Butterfield is from the same area and is the same age as my father. He grew up in the segregated south (Wilson, NC), went to a segregated school and even NCCU (a HBCU). So while today he may present as white, he definitely grew up black in the 40s, 50s and 60s. He’s in the congressional black caucus.

He doesn’t present as white. He looks white. He’s black and so were his parents:

The point is people look the way they look.

This academic lied about who she was and people respond with she doesn’t look black. It’s not about what you look like; it’s about the lies.

Talk about genetics!! Amazing. I did not know.

PP here that posted about passing relatives. I have SO MANY FAMOLY PHOTOS like this that I have seen since a child. I have one cousin whose parents are both as deep skinned as Kerry Washington and Iris Elba, and they had a child that looks like a white hispanic. It’s so bizarre. Then we see some ancestors photo and he matches that persons traits from several generations back. Also a lot of grey eyed men who look Caucasian, “redbones” that look Asian.

PP here with the ex in academia, they have texts that she sent people saying that her mother was raped by her father but all her abuelas (grandparents) are Black. People knew that she was fishy, but when she said that her conception was from rape nobody wanted to open that can of worms. He said she probably could have flew under the radar and passed if she hadn't had such an over the top portrayal of an Afro Latina and the extreme aggression that she used in calling out POC academics on their bona fides, scholarship and commitment.

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Anonymous wrote:If you scroll down after reading the story there’s a suggested article/obituary of a writer who taught at GWU who was black who invented a whole Latino backstory that even his partner didn’t know. Why do people do this?

Easier to get a job. Not too many qualified applicants to compete against.

Worked for Elizabeth Warren and now this professor. When there is incentive to cheat, people will cheat.

Not crazy about Warren but two are completely different situations.

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Anonymous wrote:She doesn’t look black at all. She doesn’t even look mixed.

Don’t be ridiculous. Vanessa Williams has stunning blue eyes with very pale skin. You can be black and “look white” as it were.

She looks nothing like Vanessa Williams or Rashida Jones.

This lady just looks white. No clue why anyone would think she’s black.

It’s not about what you look like. Does this guy look black to you?

Both his parents are mixed raced African Americans. He’s black.

+1. My ancestors were born to their slave owners and many of them “passed” as white and moved to the Midwest to marry other white people. Family reunions are huge and you cannot tell a persons race solely by their skin, hair, bone structure.

Besides. Isn’t race just a social construct anyway?

This will distract the conservative audience from the failure of COVID and economic collapse for about a week. What’s on tap for next Friday?

Anonymous wrote:I really don’t see what the problem is. So she said she’s black. She pulled it off for so long she had to be convincing and at least come across as partly genuine. If we say sex/gender can be fluid, why not race? To me sexual differences are more concrete and binding than racial and she honestly believed it to be true for a long time to have pulled it off. I don’t know, but I hope people leave her alone and the mob lets this go.

There’s a difference between lying about your ethnicity to get ahead and presenting as a different gender. In the latter case, the individual is “out” and honest with the world.

Also, throughout millennia of human history, societies have recognized 3rd/4th/Xth genders outside the male-female binary: Navajo Indian tribes, Pakistan, India, Southeast Asia, etc.
https://www.pbs.org/independentlens/content/two-spirits_map-html/

Don’t be purposely dumb. It a poor look.

Anonymous wrote:She doesn’t look black at all. She doesn’t even look mixed.

There are a lot of black people who don't "look" black. There are a lot of white people who are, in fact, black and don't know it or want to admit it. During segregation, there were blacks, who were very fair skinned, who passed as white to lead better lives or infiltrate the Ku Klux Klan during the civil rights movement.

Timing seems suspicious, too. Expect more of this kind of thing in the coming weeks.