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Anonymous wrote:To the person/people on here asking for confirmation of any cases from brief sidewalk contact - why? Are you epidemiologists? Have you just ignored the hundreds of scientists who have explained countless times in the media why we should all be wearing masks whenever we leave home? Is wearing a mask that difficult? I get that kids don’t like them but none of us have ever done this before. The kids (and adults) are going to have to figure out how to make some changes. Almost every news outlet has stories with actual epidemiologists PLEADING with people to understand why we need mask compliance. Why aren’t you listening? I honestly do not get it.

I don't get why you insist on passing someone on the sidewalk close up in a pandemic? Can you explain that?

If we were in a park or trail where it's not always possible to be 6 feet away we wear masks. But the only place we are going these days with sidewalks is our neighborhood. We are five months into this and I go on walks a few times a day in my hood. Never, not once, have I been forced to be less than 6 feet away from someone. If I/we see someone coming, I simply move out into the street or cross the street. It's not that hard!

You apparently live in bumf*ck, nowhere, sweetie, but this is DC Urban Moms, and most of us live in the city, here you can’t avoid people when you set foot outside your house. So if you ever come to the big city, mask up, darling, or you’ll get called out, and not politely.

Lots of us in the close in burbs on DCUM. Yes, if I go into DC I'll wear a mask. No desire to do that anytime soon! In my quiet neighborhood right outside the city I'll wear a mask indoor or in on trails where it's harder to SD.

+1 to this. I live outside of DC, but roads are 10 feet wide at least, and car and foot traffic are minimal enough to easily keep distance walking, running, biking. No need for a mask in my neighborhood. I went downtown to meet a friend recently, and did wear a mask while walking around her neighborhood, since sidewalks are small, and you can't easily step in the road around people.

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Anonymous wrote:To the person/people on here asking for confirmation of any cases from brief sidewalk contact - why? Are you epidemiologists? Have you just ignored the hundreds of scientists who have explained countless times in the media why we should all be wearing masks whenever we leave home? Is wearing a mask that difficult? I get that kids don’t like them but none of us have ever done this before. The kids (and adults) are going to have to figure out how to make some changes. Almost every news outlet has stories with actual epidemiologists PLEADING with people to understand why we need mask compliance. Why aren’t you listening? I honestly do not get it.

I don't get why you insist on passing someone on the sidewalk close up in a pandemic? Can you explain that?

If we were in a park or trail where it's not always possible to be 6 feet away we wear masks. But the only place we are going these days with sidewalks is our neighborhood. We are five months into this and I go on walks a few times a day in my hood. Never, not once, have I been forced to be less than 6 feet away from someone. If I/we see someone coming, I simply move out into the street or cross the street. It's not that hard!

Plenty of people are not doing that. Even at parks where the trails are narrow. Most look shocked someone else noticed there is a public park. We wear our masks, and not as chinstraps on trails as we know there will likely be others. There is also the very real issue of people thinking that 3 feet is 6.

DP. you yourself are free to move. By now people realize that no one's getting covid from briefly passing somebody 3ft instead of 6ft. Of all the kinds of human interactions going on all day every day everywhere, it's obvious that there isn't transmission this way. If it makes you anxious, then the onus is on you to move if it will make you feel better, since the risk just isn't there. And especially if you are walking side by side - you lose the right to complain about others not giving you space if you're not walking single file.

Again, HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS? Are you an epidemiologist? Infectious disease specialist? I'm guessing not. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

And no, the onus is not on me to move 6 feet away from your unmasked face. It's on ALL OF US (you, me, our kids) to wear masks to mitigate any possible risk.

Not the poster you are responding to, but what you are saying is NOT THE GUIDANCE FROM PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS.

The guidance is when outside wear a mask when it is not possible to SD. Anthony Fauci has said he does not wear a mask when on his daily walks with his wife because he is able to SD. He, like many of us, lives and walks in the nearby suburbs. That is simply what many of us are doing. If I lived in an apartment building or on a crowded DC street, I would wear a mask. But many of us are in the burbs - and even in close in suburbs, it is easy to get SD when out on a walk.

I don't know why this is controversial. A poster comes on and says do you wear a mask at all times outside? People give reasonable answers - then people jump down their throats. It's petty and silly. Many people in the area are following guidelines. A lot of people in middle America and down south are not.

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Anonymous wrote:To the person/people on here asking for confirmation of any cases from brief sidewalk contact - why? Are you epidemiologists? Have you just ignored the hundreds of scientists who have explained countless times in the media why we should all be wearing masks whenever we leave home? Is wearing a mask that difficult? I get that kids don’t like them but none of us have ever done this before. The kids (and adults) are going to have to figure out how to make some changes. Almost every news outlet has stories with actual epidemiologists PLEADING with people to understand why we need mask compliance. Why aren’t you listening? I honestly do not get it.

I don't get why you insist on passing someone on the sidewalk close up in a pandemic? Can you explain that?

If we were in a park or trail where it's not always possible to be 6 feet away we wear masks. But the only place we are going these days with sidewalks is our neighborhood. We are five months into this and I go on walks a few times a day in my hood. Never, not once, have I been forced to be less than 6 feet away from someone. If I/we see someone coming, I simply move out into the street or cross the street. It's not that hard!

Plenty of people are not doing that. Even at parks where the trails are narrow. Most look shocked someone else noticed there is a public park. We wear our masks, and not as chinstraps on trails as we know there will likely be others. There is also the very real issue of people thinking that 3 feet is 6.

DP. you yourself are free to move. By now people realize that no one's getting covid from briefly passing somebody 3ft instead of 6ft. Of all the kinds of human interactions going on all day every day everywhere, it's obvious that there isn't transmission this way. If it makes you anxious, then the onus is on you to move if it will make you feel better, since the risk just isn't there. And especially if you are walking side by side - you lose the right to complain about others not giving you space if you're not walking single file.

Again, HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS? Are you an epidemiologist? Infectious disease specialist? I'm guessing not. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

And no, the onus is not on me to move 6 feet away from your unmasked face. It's on ALL OF US (you, me, our kids) to wear masks to mitigate any possible risk.

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Anonymous wrote:To the person/people on here asking for confirmation of any cases from brief sidewalk contact - why? Are you epidemiologists? Have you just ignored the hundreds of scientists who have explained countless times in the media why we should all be wearing masks whenever we leave home? Is wearing a mask that difficult? I get that kids don’t like them but none of us have ever done this before. The kids (and adults) are going to have to figure out how to make some changes. Almost every news outlet has stories with actual epidemiologists PLEADING with people to understand why we need mask compliance. Why aren’t you listening? I honestly do not get it.

I don't get why you insist on passing someone on the sidewalk close up in a pandemic? Can you explain that?

If we were in a park or trail where it's not always possible to be 6 feet away we wear masks. But the only place we are going these days with sidewalks is our neighborhood. We are five months into this and I go on walks a few times a day in my hood. Never, not once, have I been forced to be less than 6 feet away from someone. If I/we see someone coming, I simply move out into the street or cross the street. It's not that hard!

You apparently live in bumf*ck, nowhere, sweetie, but this is DC Urban Moms, and most of us live in the city, here you can’t avoid people when you set foot outside your house. So if you ever come to the big city, mask up, darling, or you’ll get called out, and not politely.

Lots of us in the close in burbs on DCUM. Yes, if I go into DC I'll wear a mask. No desire to do that anytime soon! In my quiet neighborhood right outside the city I'll wear a mask indoor or in on trails where it's harder to SD.

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Anonymous wrote:To the person/people on here asking for confirmation of any cases from brief sidewalk contact - why? Are you epidemiologists? Have you just ignored the hundreds of scientists who have explained countless times in the media why we should all be wearing masks whenever we leave home? Is wearing a mask that difficult? I get that kids don’t like them but none of us have ever done this before. The kids (and adults) are going to have to figure out how to make some changes. Almost every news outlet has stories with actual epidemiologists PLEADING with people to understand why we need mask compliance. Why aren’t you listening? I honestly do not get it.

I don't get why you insist on passing someone on the sidewalk close up in a pandemic? Can you explain that?

If we were in a park or trail where it's not always possible to be 6 feet away we wear masks. But the only place we are going these days with sidewalks is our neighborhood. We are five months into this and I go on walks a few times a day in my hood. Never, not once, have I been forced to be less than 6 feet away from someone. If I/we see someone coming, I simply move out into the street or cross the street. It's not that hard!

Plenty of people are not doing that. Even at parks where the trails are narrow. Most look shocked someone else noticed there is a public park. We wear our masks, and not as chinstraps on trails as we know there will likely be others. There is also the very real issue of people thinking that 3 feet is 6.

People have said many times in this thread that in dense urban areas they wear a mask.

Not everyone on DCUM is in the city. I'm 2 miles from the city in the Montgomery County burbs, in a neighborhood.

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Anonymous wrote:To the person/people on here asking for confirmation of any cases from brief sidewalk contact - why? Are you epidemiologists? Have you just ignored the hundreds of scientists who have explained countless times in the media why we should all be wearing masks whenever we leave home? Is wearing a mask that difficult? I get that kids don’t like them but none of us have ever done this before. The kids (and adults) are going to have to figure out how to make some changes. Almost every news outlet has stories with actual epidemiologists PLEADING with people to understand why we need mask compliance. Why aren’t you listening? I honestly do not get it.

I don't get why you insist on passing someone on the sidewalk close up in a pandemic? Can you explain that?

If we were in a park or trail where it's not always possible to be 6 feet away we wear masks. But the only place we are going these days with sidewalks is our neighborhood. We are five months into this and I go on walks a few times a day in my hood. Never, not once, have I been forced to be less than 6 feet away from someone. If I/we see someone coming, I simply move out into the street or cross the street. It's not that hard!

Plenty of people are not doing that. Even at parks where the trails are narrow. Most look shocked someone else noticed there is a public park. We wear our masks, and not as chinstraps on trails as we know there will likely be others. There is also the very real issue of people thinking that 3 feet is 6.

People have said many times in this thread that in dense urban areas they wear a mask.

Not everyone on DCUM is in the city. I'm 2 miles from the city in the Montgomery County burbs, in a neighborhood.

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Anonymous wrote:To the person/people on here asking for confirmation of any cases from brief sidewalk contact - why? Are you epidemiologists? Have you just ignored the hundreds of scientists who have explained countless times in the media why we should all be wearing masks whenever we leave home? Is wearing a mask that difficult? I get that kids don’t like them but none of us have ever done this before. The kids (and adults) are going to have to figure out how to make some changes. Almost every news outlet has stories with actual epidemiologists PLEADING with people to understand why we need mask compliance. Why aren’t you listening? I honestly do not get it.

I don't get why you insist on passing someone on the sidewalk close up in a pandemic? Can you explain that?

If we were in a park or trail where it's not always possible to be 6 feet away we wear masks. But the only place we are going these days with sidewalks is our neighborhood. We are five months into this and I go on walks a few times a day in my hood. Never, not once, have I been forced to be less than 6 feet away from someone. If I/we see someone coming, I simply move out into the street or cross the street. It's not that hard!

Plenty of people are not doing that. Even at parks where the trails are narrow. Most look shocked someone else noticed there is a public park. We wear our masks, and not as chinstraps on trails as we know there will likely be others. There is also the very real issue of people thinking that 3 feet is 6.

DP. you yourself are free to move. By now people realize that no one's getting covid from briefly passing somebody 3ft instead of 6ft. Of all the kinds of human interactions going on all day every day everywhere, it's obvious that there isn't transmission this way. If it makes you anxious, then the onus is on you to move if it will make you feel better, since the risk just isn't there. And especially if you are walking side by side - you lose the right to complain about others not giving you space if you're not walking single file.

Oh but I do. Even my five-year-old walks in the street around these road hogs. And I am not anxious or mental. i’m trying to protect them too. And the truth is there usually isn’t enough room to do that if you’re on a trail. I shouldn’t have to jump into poison ivy when hiking because someone else isn’t paying attention and feels entitled to assert their ignorance.

You can come up with any belittling scenario of how you think someone wearing a mask should walk and you’ll find that it’s in accurate. We do walk single file to give other people space. We do try to go when it’s not busy. We do try and be the one to move. It’s often not enough. I’m guessing you live in the suburbs and this isn’t a real issue for you. But if you live in the city and you’re trying to go to a public park or just walk through your own neighborhood this is something you’re navigating every day. I don’t know what your beef is with trying to protect other people but it’s an odd choice.

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Anonymous wrote:To the person/people on here asking for confirmation of any cases from brief sidewalk contact - why? Are you epidemiologists? Have you just ignored the hundreds of scientists who have explained countless times in the media why we should all be wearing masks whenever we leave home? Is wearing a mask that difficult? I get that kids don’t like them but none of us have ever done this before. The kids (and adults) are going to have to figure out how to make some changes. Almost every news outlet has stories with actual epidemiologists PLEADING with people to understand why we need mask compliance. Why aren’t you listening? I honestly do not get it.

I don't get why you insist on passing someone on the sidewalk close up in a pandemic? Can you explain that?

If we were in a park or trail where it's not always possible to be 6 feet away we wear masks. But the only place we are going these days with sidewalks is our neighborhood. We are five months into this and I go on walks a few times a day in my hood. Never, not once, have I been forced to be less than 6 feet away from someone. If I/we see someone coming, I simply move out into the street or cross the street. It's not that hard!

Plenty of people are not doing that. Even at parks where the trails are narrow. Most look shocked someone else noticed there is a public park. We wear our masks, and not as chinstraps on trails as we know there will likely be others. There is also the very real issue of people thinking that 3 feet is 6.

DP. you yourself are free to move. By now people realize that no one's getting covid from briefly passing somebody 3ft instead of 6ft. Of all the kinds of human interactions going on all day every day everywhere, it's obvious that there isn't transmission this way. If it makes you anxious, then the onus is on you to move if it will make you feel better, since the risk just isn't there. And especially if you are walking side by side - you lose the right to complain about others not giving you space if you're not walking single file.

Oh but I do. Even my five-year-old walks in the street around these road hogs. And I am not anxious or mental. i’m trying to protect them too. And the truth is there usually isn’t enough room to do that if you’re on a trail. I shouldn’t have to jump into poison ivy when hiking because someone else isn’t paying attention and feels entitled to assert their ignorance.

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Anonymous wrote:To the person/people on here asking for confirmation of any cases from brief sidewalk contact - why? Are you epidemiologists? Have you just ignored the hundreds of scientists who have explained countless times in the media why we should all be wearing masks whenever we leave home? Is wearing a mask that difficult? I get that kids don’t like them but none of us have ever done this before. The kids (and adults) are going to have to figure out how to make some changes. Almost every news outlet has stories with actual epidemiologists PLEADING with people to understand why we need mask compliance. Why aren’t you listening? I honestly do not get it.

I don't get why you insist on passing someone on the sidewalk close up in a pandemic? Can you explain that?

If we were in a park or trail where it's not always possible to be 6 feet away we wear masks. But the only place we are going these days with sidewalks is our neighborhood. We are five months into this and I go on walks a few times a day in my hood. Never, not once, have I been forced to be less than 6 feet away from someone. If I/we see someone coming, I simply move out into the street or cross the street. It's not that hard!

Plenty of people are not doing that. Even at parks where the trails are narrow. Most look shocked someone else noticed there is a public park. We wear our masks, and not as chinstraps on trails as we know there will likely be others. There is also the very real issue of people thinking that 3 feet is 6.

DP. you yourself are free to move. By now people realize that no one's getting covid from briefly passing somebody 3ft instead of 6ft. Of all the kinds of human interactions going on all day every day everywhere, it's obvious that there isn't transmission this way. If it makes you anxious, then the onus is on you to move if it will make you feel better, since the risk just isn't there. And especially if you are walking side by side - you lose the right to complain about others not giving you space if you're not walking single file.

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Anonymous wrote:There is not once single case in the entire world of covid being transferred passing someone on a sidewalk. No mask.

If you're huddled and staying close to people outside, yes, not a bad idea.

But just a pass of someone? Totally and completely unnecessary.

No one can possibly know if covid was transferred by an umasked person on the sidewalk. Why wouldn’t this highly contagious virus be transmitted with one sneeze outside?

Better safe than sorry. Plus it’s easier for my kids to accept “always” rather than “sometimes”. We are all masked anytime we leave our yard or house.

Of course it can be traced - if one highly infectious person is walking and passing people, surely a couple of people will get infected. They ask where they've been lately, and this would be their commonality. I get that tracing isn't happening often, but if there is not ONE SINGLE CONFIRMED CASE in ANY city, ANY county, ANY state, or ANY country? It's not happening. And all data points to viral load + time being a major, major concern. Someone would have to sneeze directly into your mouth for this to happen. Don't let other people sneeze directly into your mouth.

You can be cautious, and then there's being irrational against all evidence. This is the latter. Clustered and huddled outside? Sure, mask up. An incredibly brief pass? Pretty much impossible.

No, my mother assumes that she got covid from someone she passed outside on her daily walk as she has absolutely zero contact with anyone else for two months. No grocery store, no friends, no doctors - no one. She couldn’t have been infected any other way.

Sorry, I don't believe this. It defies all science. Everyone says I've basically been isolating except for that one time!" There's a lot of dishonesty about many infectious people and how much they've actually not been social distancing.

Disbelieve at your own peril, PP. My mother walked every single day and simply passed other walkers outside. It’s the only place she could have contracted it (and possibly spread it).

Was she living with anyone else who may have been an asymptomatic carrier? Surface transmission is also possible. One epidemiology study in China indicated that the likeliest source of transmission for residents of a building were elevator surfaces (buttons).

No. My mother lives in a small house alone. The doctors ruled out her contracting it from delivered groceries left outside her door or mail.

How did the doctors rule out her contracting it from a delivery? Interested because my sister works in the ER and has seen a bunch of COVID patients who work for Instacart and similar companies. Most have admitted to working while having mild symptoms (because they need the $!). She’s also seen patients who have it despite “never going anywhere” - but regularly get groceries touched/delivered by potentially infected workers.

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Anonymous wrote:To the person/people on here asking for confirmation of any cases from brief sidewalk contact - why? Are you epidemiologists? Have you just ignored the hundreds of scientists who have explained countless times in the media why we should all be wearing masks whenever we leave home? Is wearing a mask that difficult? I get that kids don’t like them but none of us have ever done this before. The kids (and adults) are going to have to figure out how to make some changes. Almost every news outlet has stories with actual epidemiologists PLEADING with people to understand why we need mask compliance. Why aren’t you listening? I honestly do not get it.

I don't get why you insist on passing someone on the sidewalk close up in a pandemic? Can you explain that?

If we were in a park or trail where it's not always possible to be 6 feet away we wear masks. But the only place we are going these days with sidewalks is our neighborhood. We are five months into this and I go on walks a few times a day in my hood. Never, not once, have I been forced to be less than 6 feet away from someone. If I/we see someone coming, I simply move out into the street or cross the street. It's not that hard!

Plenty of people are not doing that. Even at parks where the trails are narrow. Most look shocked someone else noticed there is a public park. We wear our masks, and not as chinstraps on trails as we know there will likely be others. There is also the very real issue of people thinking that 3 feet is 6.

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Anonymous wrote:To the person/people on here asking for confirmation of any cases from brief sidewalk contact - why? Are you epidemiologists? Have you just ignored the hundreds of scientists who have explained countless times in the media why we should all be wearing masks whenever we leave home? Is wearing a mask that difficult? I get that kids don’t like them but none of us have ever done this before. The kids (and adults) are going to have to figure out how to make some changes. Almost every news outlet has stories with actual epidemiologists PLEADING with people to understand why we need mask compliance. Why aren’t you listening? I honestly do not get it.

I don't get why you insist on passing someone on the sidewalk close up in a pandemic? Can you explain that?

If we were in a park or trail where it's not always possible to be 6 feet away we wear masks. But the only place we are going these days with sidewalks is our neighborhood. We are five months into this and I go on walks a few times a day in my hood. Never, not once, have I been forced to be less than 6 feet away from someone. If I/we see someone coming, I simply move out into the street or cross the street. It's not that hard!

You apparently live in bumf*ck, nowhere, sweetie, but this is DC Urban Moms, and most of us live in the city, here you can’t avoid people when you set foot outside your house. So if you ever come to the big city, mask up, darling, or you’ll get called out, and not politely.