Anonymous
07/24/2020 14:06
Subject: Re:FCPS Appeals decision are out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not in 149 WISC-V - all subsections were high
3 new samples (realistic fiction, science oriented writing and math problem solving)
3 recommendation letters
Original submission CogAt 141, 4FO, NNAT 126 (can't remember the exact number)
No words. Beyond frustrated.
Wow. Have you considered consulting an education attorney.
I am just in shock at the moment, so haven't considered anything. Honestly, my daughter should have been admitted the first round and we thought it was a mistake. But now, I don't know what is going on. We also have an older kid in the full-time program, so we have a sense of the process and believe that the full-time AAP will serve my daughter well. Yikes.
This is how Asians feel when they receive rejection letters from colleges/universities. Shocked and frustrated.
I am the poster above. We are Asian-Americans. Didn't want to go there but since you brought it up.
Time to address the elephant in the room - is it possible candidates are being denied (or accepted) based on race?
Maybe but it could be more nuanced than that but race being a factor or providing basis for bias - for example, high test scores are discounted based but lower GBRS are magnified based on race.
Anonymous
07/24/2020 14:04
Subject: Re:FCPS Appeals decision are out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not in 149 WISC-V - all subsections were high
3 new samples (realistic fiction, science oriented writing and math problem solving)
3 recommendation letters
Original submission CogAt 141, 4FO, NNAT 126 (can't remember the exact number)
No words. Beyond frustrated.
Wow. Have you considered consulting an education attorney.
I am just in shock at the moment, so haven't considered anything. Honestly, my daughter should have been admitted the first round and we thought it was a mistake. But now, I don't know what is going on. We also have an older kid in the full-time program, so we have a sense of the process and believe that the full-time AAP will serve my daughter well. Yikes.
This is how Asians feel when they receive rejection letters from colleges/universities. Shocked and frustrated.
I am the poster above. We are Asian-Americans. Didn't want to go there but since you brought it up.
Time to address the elephant in the room - is it possible candidates are being denied (or accepted) based on race?
Probably, just like the college admissions system.
Anonymous
07/24/2020 13:58
Subject: Re:FCPS Appeals decision are out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not in 149 WISC-V - all subsections were high
3 new samples (realistic fiction, science oriented writing and math problem solving)
3 recommendation letters
Original submission CogAt 141, 4FO, NNAT 126 (can't remember the exact number)
No words. Beyond frustrated.
Wow. Have you considered consulting an education attorney.
I am just in shock at the moment, so haven't considered anything. Honestly, my daughter should have been admitted the first round and we thought it was a mistake. But now, I don't know what is going on. We also have an older kid in the full-time program, so we have a sense of the process and believe that the full-time AAP will serve my daughter well. Yikes.
This is how Asians feel when they receive rejection letters from colleges/universities. Shocked and frustrated.
I am the poster above. We are Asian-Americans. Didn't want to go there but since you brought it up.
Time to address the elephant in the room - is it possible candidates are being denied (or accepted) based on race?
Anonymous
07/24/2020 13:57
Subject: Re:FCPS Appeals decision are out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Maybe they suspect that many of the WISC scores are not legit.
Many of the scores are from GMU, so I doubt they're questioning the legitimacy.
It's more likely that since the AAP equity report identified appeals and outside testing as an avenue only available to the privileged, they're discounting the results in the name of equity.
AAP should increase the number of black and Hispanic students so fcps is headed in the right direction.
Anonymous
07/24/2020 13:55
Subject: Re:FCPS Appeals decision are out
It really does seem like the GBRS carries the most weight for better or worse. Those with high WISCs need to figure out why the 3 people that did their child’s GBRS didn’t give them a higher rating (and hopefully it will be different next year). Are they flagged for Level 2 math and language arts? Are they in top reading and math groups?
Anonymous
07/24/2020 13:54
Subject: Re:FCPS Appeals decision are out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:But how can they just go with one teacher's decision and ignore cognitive assessment results? It is frustrating. Any idea if certain schools have max limit and if that is reached they don't consider any further irrespective of kids being advanced or not.
In two schools my kids attended, GBRS input is no tprovided by only their main teacher. Their ART teacher, reading specialist also are involved.
That doesn't seem to describe our situation well. The classroom teacher provided generally positive GBRS reviews, had not seen the GBRS score, and was mildly surprised when they heard what it was. The AART teacher who did assign the scores barely seemed to know who the kid was, but did come into the conversation with heavy presuppositions. It definitely wasn't a true collaborative effort nor a reasonable assessment of DC.
Anonymous
07/24/2020 13:53
Subject: FCPS Appeals decision are out
Anonymous wrote:It almost looks like the rejections and acceptances were mixed up
They say this every year, lol...
Anonymous
07/24/2020 13:34
Subject: Re:FCPS Appeals decision are out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Maybe they suspect that many of the WISC scores are not legit.
Many of the scores are from GMU, so I doubt they're questioning the legitimacy.
It's more likely that since the AAP equity report identified appeals and outside testing as an avenue only available to the privileged, they're discounting the results in the name of equity.
We were rejected and didn’t submit a WISC. Instead we submitted a very elaborate packet of sample work and letters of recommendations
Anonymous
07/24/2020 13:32
Subject: FCPS Appeals decision are out
Out of curiosity who did you email? I got the email from Oscar Calagua. I emailed him. Is there anyone else?
Anonymous
07/24/2020 13:32
Subject: Re:FCPS Appeals decision are out
Anonymous wrote:
Maybe they suspect that many of the WISC scores are not legit.
Many of the scores are from GMU, so I doubt they're questioning the legitimacy.
It's more likely that since the AAP equity report identified appeals and outside testing as an avenue only available to the privileged, they're discounting the results in the name of equity.
Anonymous
07/24/2020 13:31
Subject: Re:FCPS Appeals decision are out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did not get in despite having mildly gifted WISC, 140+. My kid is in 99.6% but this is somehow not good enough for FCPS.
I have a tangebile test score along with other documentation to prove he is eligible. Yet all I received from the school is a generic unqualified letter.
Also why are we providing all those documents explaining every detail providing documents when we get nothing from FCPS.
At least FCPS should show the decency explaining why my kid is not accepted.
It really seems like a colossal screw up this year. I have never seen so many high wisc rejections for appeals. Appeal process is when they usually fix their mistakes.
Maybe they suspect that many of the WISC scores are not legit.
If parents can purchase high scores for ACT and SAT, they certainly can purchase high WISC scores. In fact, it would be easier and less expensive.
Anonymous
07/24/2020 13:25
Subject: Re:FCPS Appeals decision are out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did not get in despite having mildly gifted WISC, 140+. My kid is in 99.6% but this is somehow not good enough for FCPS.
I have a tangebile test score along with other documentation to prove he is eligible. Yet all I received from the school is a generic unqualified letter.
Also why are we providing all those documents explaining every detail providing documents when we get nothing from FCPS.
At least FCPS should show the decency explaining why my kid is not accepted.
It really seems like a colossal screw up this year. I have never seen so many high wisc rejections for appeals. Appeal process is when they usually fix their mistakes.
Maybe they suspect that many of the WISC scores are not legit.
Anonymous
07/24/2020 13:23
Subject: Re:FCPS Appeals decision are out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did not get in despite having mildly gifted WISC, 140+. My kid is in 99.6% but this is somehow not good enough for FCPS.
I have a tangebile test score along with other documentation to prove he is eligible. Yet all I received from the school is a generic unqualified letter.
Also why are we providing all those documents explaining every detail providing documents when we get nothing from FCPS.
At least FCPS should show the decency explaining why my kid is not accepted.
It really seems like a colossal screw up this year. I have never seen so many high wisc rejections for appeals. Appeal process is when they usually fix their mistakes.
Agree. Also, it's not just high scores on WISC, Cogat etc. But these are scores with additional work samples, statements, good grades, good GBRS (if not stellar) etc. So, not a holistic review by any means.
Anonymous
07/24/2020 13:22
Subject: Re:FCPS Appeals decision are out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did not get in despite having mildly gifted WISC, 140+. My kid is in 99.6% but this is somehow not good enough for FCPS.
I have a tangebile test score along with other documentation to prove he is eligible. Yet all I received from the school is a generic unqualified letter.
Also why are we providing all those documents explaining every detail providing documents when we get nothing from FCPS.
At least FCPS should show the decency explaining why my kid is not accepted.
It really seems like a colossal screw up this year. I have never seen so many high wisc rejections for appeals. Appeal process is when they usually fix their mistakes.
I have only been reading this board for three AAP cycles and this happens every year. And someone makes the same comment every year.
Anonymous
07/24/2020 13:21
Subject: FCPS Appeals decision are out
Anonymous wrote:.... meanwhile, my kid's AAP class last year had reading groups for on and below grade level readers. There were kids who scored below 70% or even below 50% on IAAT, which means that they're completely average in math. It all makes no sense.
THey need to be able to remove kids from the program who are not meeting the accelerated requirements.