Anonymous
Post 06/11/2020 09:04     Subject: Re:When do you think school will be back to normal?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I suspect schools will be open this fall as normal. Rightly or wrongly, the world is moving on. By August, I bet coronavirus will not get nearly the same attention is does now.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/10/us/politics/coronavirus-washington-trump.html


This is because it is summer. People are outside a lot more which helps limit the spread. If we look at Fauci’s statements, and the history of the Spanish flu, once the weather gets cooler things will change. Being in a school, let alone a tiny classroom with almost 30 kids, is a recipe for disaster. We don’t all teach young children. My students are 17-18 years old, nothing says they can’t spread the virus like a typical adult.

Summer weather doesn’t last forever. We have to think about the full year, not just right now. Health always always always needs to come first!


But Covid doesn't kill like the Spanish flu. It kills mostly people over 65. For the vast majority of younger people, the risk is minuscule. That is a scientific fact. When you weigh the education of millions against the health concerns of a small minority, it is not obvious that health must come first. We need to make accommodations for those at risk while recognizing the essential importance of education for millions of kids.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2020 08:47     Subject: Re:When do you think school will be back to normal?
Anonymous wrote:I suspect schools will be open this fall as normal. Rightly or wrongly, the world is moving on. By August, I bet coronavirus will not get nearly the same attention is does now.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/10/us/politics/coronavirus-washington-trump.html


This is because it is summer. People are outside a lot more which helps limit the spread. If we look at Fauci’s statements, and the history of the Spanish flu, once the weather gets cooler things will change. Being in a school, let alone a tiny classroom with almost 30 kids, is a recipe for disaster. We don’t all teach young children. My students are 17-18 years old, nothing says they can’t spread the virus like a typical adult.

Summer weather doesn’t last forever. We have to think about the full year, not just right now. Health always always always needs to come first!
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2020 08:46     Subject: Re:When do you think school will be back to normal?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"The average student could begin the next school year having lost as much as a third of the expected progress from the previous year in reading and half of the expected progress in math...

the average student could fall seven months behind academically, while black and Hispanic students could experience even greater learning losses, equivalent to 10 months for black children and nine months for Latinos, according to an analysis from McKinsey & Company, the consulting group."


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/05/us/coronavirus-education-lost-learning.html


Fall behind who? The imaginary children who stayed in school all year?

Exactly. Schools have been shut down across the country. All these imaginary projections about children “falling behind” an artificial benchmark.


This.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2020 08:42     Subject: Re:When do you think school will be back to normal?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"The average student could begin the next school year having lost as much as a third of the expected progress from the previous year in reading and half of the expected progress in math...

the average student could fall seven months behind academically, while black and Hispanic students could experience even greater learning losses, equivalent to 10 months for black children and nine months for Latinos, according to an analysis from McKinsey & Company, the consulting group."


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/05/us/coronavirus-education-lost-learning.html


Fall behind who? The imaginary children who stayed in school all year?

Exactly. Schools have been shut down across the country. All these imaginary projections about children “falling behind” an artificial benchmark.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2020 08:36     Subject: Re:When do you think school will be back to normal?
Anonymous wrote:"The average student could begin the next school year having lost as much as a third of the expected progress from the previous year in reading and half of the expected progress in math...

the average student could fall seven months behind academically, while black and Hispanic students could experience even greater learning losses, equivalent to 10 months for black children and nine months for Latinos, according to an analysis from McKinsey & Company, the consulting group."


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/05/us/coronavirus-education-lost-learning.html


Fall behind who? The imaginary children who stayed in school all year?
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2020 08:19     Subject: Re:When do you think school will be back to normal?
"The average student could begin the next school year having lost as much as a third of the expected progress from the previous year in reading and half of the expected progress in math...

the average student could fall seven months behind academically, while black and Hispanic students could experience even greater learning losses, equivalent to 10 months for black children and nine months for Latinos, according to an analysis from McKinsey & Company, the consulting group."


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/05/us/coronavirus-education-lost-learning.html
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2020 08:15     Subject: Re:When do you think school will be back to normal?
School principal thinks year will start with DL but doesn't know. Principal discussed multiple challenges with hybrid - e.g. there is no way to protect vulnerable staff members because under hybrid all teachers must teach in person for the schedule to work.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2020 07:33     Subject: When do you think school will be back to normal?
We will be back. No one is going to tolerate this lock down anymore. This summer social distancing will stop & we will by default adopt the herd immunity model. Then- life goes on.
For teachers who are truly uneasy, give them a year- at paid salary to invest in a new training/career.

Folks gotta move on. And teachers need to realize their job comes with inherent health risks. We are around little kids all day! Kids are always sick! If this is no longer a risk some teachers want to take- support them in retraining & finding a new profession.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2020 22:58     Subject: When do you think school will be back to normal?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cutting PreK at this stage will actually have a horrendous economic effect on the city. School is childcare + school and people haven't made alternative arrangements. Not feasible at this stage.


You already need essentially fulltime childcare. And A/B schedule that anticipates 16 hours per week max of in person schooling means you need quite a lot of childcare to cover the remainder if both parents are working fulltime


I genuinely don’t think most people have planned for part time school and it’s part of the reason that I think it ultimately won’t happen.


So do you think it will ultimately be fully in school or fully distance learning?

I also question if all the pieces can come together for a hybrid plan, and that makes me suspect we may end up starting the year with distance learning.


NP, but I do think it is either fully in school or fully distance learning in the fall. Now that might depend on the grade of the student, as some other posters have mentioned, but just thinking about the scheduling nightmare that would be hybrid (from a middle and high school perspective), I just can't imagine it falling into place in a way that students, teachers or parents would like.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2020 21:26     Subject: When do you think school will be back to normal?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cutting PreK at this stage will actually have a horrendous economic effect on the city. School is childcare + school and people haven't made alternative arrangements. Not feasible at this stage.


You already need essentially fulltime childcare. And A/B schedule that anticipates 16 hours per week max of in person schooling means you need quite a lot of childcare to cover the remainder if both parents are working fulltime


I genuinely don’t think most people have planned for part time school and it’s part of the reason that I think it ultimately won’t happen.


So do you think it will ultimately be fully in school or fully distance learning?

I also question if all the pieces can come together for a hybrid plan, and that makes me suspect we may end up starting the year with distance learning.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2020 21:09     Subject: When do you think school will be back to normal?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cutting PreK at this stage will actually have a horrendous economic effect on the city. School is childcare + school and people haven't made alternative arrangements. Not feasible at this stage.


You already need essentially fulltime childcare. And A/B schedule that anticipates 16 hours per week max of in person schooling means you need quite a lot of childcare to cover the remainder if both parents are working fulltime


I genuinely don’t think most people have planned for part time school and it’s part of the reason that I think it ultimately won’t happen.


I hope you are right, but do you really think DCPS cares?
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2020 20:16     Subject: When do you think school will be back to normal?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cutting PreK at this stage will actually have a horrendous economic effect on the city. School is childcare + school and people haven't made alternative arrangements. Not feasible at this stage.


You already need essentially fulltime childcare. And A/B schedule that anticipates 16 hours per week max of in person schooling means you need quite a lot of childcare to cover the remainder if both parents are working fulltime


I genuinely don’t think most people have planned for part time school and it’s part of the reason that I think it ultimately won’t happen.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2020 19:58     Subject: When do you think school will be back to normal?
Anonymous wrote:Cutting PreK at this stage will actually have a horrendous economic effect on the city. School is childcare + school and people haven't made alternative arrangements. Not feasible at this stage.


You already need essentially fulltime childcare. And A/B schedule that anticipates 16 hours per week max of in person schooling means you need quite a lot of childcare to cover the remainder if both parents are working fulltime
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2020 19:33     Subject: When do you think school will be back to normal?
Fall 2021.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2020 19:08     Subject: Re:When do you think school will be back to normal?
I suspect schools will be open this fall as normal. Rightly or wrongly, the world is moving on. By August, I bet coronavirus will not get nearly the same attention is does now.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/10/us/politics/coronavirus-washington-trump.html