Sister-in-law said as an "ally" you should make decisions that are in line with the community you aim to support.

Sister-in-law said that racism will never end because as soon as white women have to lay down priviledge and feel inconvenienced uncomfortable , denied access etc then they somehow decide that the request is unreasonable.

That is my I started my post with asking if Black people would prefer to govern themselves, like Native Americans, because I dont think that we will ever truly be able to satisfy their requests, whether one believes the requests are reasonable, racist or otherwise.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if Black people would be happier if allowed their own space. If they were allowed to govern, educate, police etc themselves?

Also, my friend is married to a Black man. His sister told my friend that if she was truly an ally, she would have not taken a Black man, who are scarce away from Black women.

Her sister-in- law said that this act was "centering " her needs as a white woman over the needs of the Black community.

That's white privileges, my friend/

How on earth is that ok to say? Sister is racist and her choose to marry her.

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if Black people would be happier if allowed their own space. If they were allowed to govern, educate, police etc themselves?

Also, my friend is married to a Black man. His sister told my friend that if she was truly an ally, she would have not taken a Black man, who are scarce away from Black women.

Her sister-in- law said that this act was "centering " her needs as a white woman over the needs of the Black community.

That's white privileges, my friend/

Anonymous wrote:Lmao. This is hysterical. I rather just have a friend by my side if I decided to protest, which I have not. I strongly believe that reading history and seeing that this nation has come either come full circle or never left 1890 is not a good reason to step out of my home and possibly get my head cracked open or worse.

Right? The SHTF in our society and it's interesting to see the people rushing out to join the fray, babies in tow, just to get their photo op. We have a pandemic, race wars, police brutality, etc., yet people are shocked when some guy gets killed. What were they expecting? It's like a picnic at Fort Sumter.

Some person claiming to be a liberal white woman posted this claiming that she got it from a friend. Without bothering to find out who wrote this and why -- many people seem to be taking this seriously, and reacting to it as though it's something official. SMH

I wonder if Black people would be happier if allowed their own space. If they were allowed to govern, educate, police etc themselves?

Also, my friend is married to a Black man. His sister told my friend that if she was truly an ally, she would have not taken a Black man, who are scarce away from Black women.

Her sister-in- law said that this act was "centering " her needs as a white woman over the needs of the Black community.

Lmao. This is hysterical. I rather just have a friend by my side if I decided to protest, which I have not. I strongly believe that reading history and seeing that this nation has come either come full circle or never left 1890 is not a good reason to step out of my home and possibly get my head cracked open or worse.

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Anonymous wrote:So, whites are ornamental stupid sheep.
Cool.
Watched the video of BLM guy telling a white girl to get on her knees. She readily got down on her knees and apologized for her white privilege.
Cool.

The viral video you are discussing was not a BLM guy and was posted by a prankster. This is disinformation.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-blm-woman-knee/fact-check-man-asking-white-woman-to-kneel-and-apologize-is-not-a-representative-of-black-lives-matter-idUSKBN23B359

Oh, OK, thanks for clarification. Still cool

Anonymous wrote:Could #4 mean, hey back up? Or I’m Not comfortable with you in my space? Or anything less diabolical than how many are responding to here? Given the overarching situation/history of racism , this one makes sense to me. And without complications.

The pushback on this one seems pretty anti to support

Re-read it. I agree that what your examples are entirely reasonable, they just are completely different than the “rule” you are referring to.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Could #4 mean, hey back up? Or I’m Not comfortable with you in my space? Or anything less diabolical than how many are responding to here? Given the overarching situation/history of racism , this one makes sense to me. And without complications.

The pushback on this one seems pretty anti to support

It didn't say "make sure to follow the guidance of the protest leaders to keep things organized and keep everyone safe."

It said "if some random black person commands you to do something, do it."

Even if it would get you maced by a cop.

Even if it would expose you to Covid.

It's totally nuts and should be retracted. Either dump the "rules" or come up with something rational. Say what you mean and mean what you say.

Your air quotes are inaccurate. Go eat a snickers cranky pants

Not pp, but that is what we call actual quotes. And they aren’t inaccurate in any way that I can see.

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Anonymous wrote:Could #4 mean, hey back up? Or I’m Not comfortable with you in my space? Or anything less diabolical than how many are responding to here? Given the overarching situation/history of racism , this one makes sense to me. And without complications.

The pushback on this one seems pretty anti to support

It didn't say "make sure to follow the guidance of the protest leaders to keep things organized and keep everyone safe."

It said "if some random black person commands you to do something, do it."

Even if it would get you maced by a cop.

Even if it would expose you to Covid.

It's totally nuts and should be retracted. Either dump the "rules" or come up with something rational. Say what you mean and mean what you say.

Your air quotes are inaccurate. Go eat a snickers cranky pants

Anonymous wrote:Could #4 mean, hey back up? Or I’m Not comfortable with you in my space? Or anything less diabolical than how many are responding to here? Given the overarching situation/history of racism , this one makes sense to me. And without complications.

The pushback on this one seems pretty anti to support

It didn't say "make sure to follow the guidance of the protest leaders to keep things organized and keep everyone safe."

It said "if some random black person commands you to do something, do it."

Even if it would get you maced by a cop.

Even if it would expose you to Covid.

It's totally nuts and should be retracted. Either dump the "rules" or come up with something rational. Say what you mean and mean what you say.

Could #4 mean, hey back up? Or I’m Not comfortable with you in my space? Or anything less diabolical than how many are responding to here? Given the overarching situation/history of racism , this one makes sense to me. And without complications.

The pushback on this one seems pretty anti to support

I agree with all but #4. Not doing that. Don't do that for anyone, any color.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to be deeply involved in political activism but sh!t like this is why I stopped. I was told not to cry “white tears,” to “center black voices,” to relinquish any leadership role I ever earned if challenged by a WOC. Also we were told WOC shouldn’t be asked to work for free, even when our organizations were volunteer lead and run. I saw mismanagement and even theft of fundraising dollars as interlopers overthrew actual leaders demanding their voices be “centered.”

Now I just worry about myself and my family.

+1. Interesting insight from someone who has actually been there and isn’t just spouting crap from the comfort of their home.

Ugh I really hope I’m not adding fuel to a fire. I still completely believe in the mission. While I’m white my kids and sibling are not, and I still believe police abuse is one of the most pressing issues of our time. But there are definitely people in this space trying to capitalize on white guilt and act out their aggression.

Thank you for trying to pull that back from the flames....

I’m just being honest. Hopefully it’s possible to clean house.