Anonymous
Post 05/26/2020 22:20     Subject: I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When a country was founded on owning humans worth 3/5 of a human and sold like cattle, what do you expect? When a country built itself old the backs of Irish and Chinese under brutal conditions and very little respect, what do you expect? When a country is founded by swindling, killing and executing Natives to gain land, what can you expect in the future? Why are you surprised by this? Even when fruit grows large and seems healthy, that dose of poison it grew with is still at the heart of that fruit and it is rotten. This nation was created from rotten fruit and it will pay for those transgressions somehow, some way until the debt is settled.

PREACH!!!!
PREACH!!!!
PREACH!!!!
PREACH!!!!


Preach? Do you not understand that you are falling to the same self aggrandizing behavior as if an online poster is speaking from the word of god? Violence may be necessary but the people you refer to are all dead. The US is not alone as a country of conquerors. It’s pretty much the entire world that has been conquered at least once. Almost always at the hand of violence. Either way, convicting our country is not going to save this man or help this man’s family going forward. There were actual steps that should be taken mentioned above that were very reasonable. The police apologizing, retraining, convicting the killlers. Those will make more of a difference.

Shut up.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2020 21:24     Subject: Re:I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As an African American, this video doesn’t even disturb me. It’s to the point that it’s so natural. White people hate black people. Always will.


Same.

Just look at this thread. We have this video of a man being slowly murdered by a cop, clear as day, and yet there are still posters willing to make excuses.

We have video of the jogger being ambushed and murdered by a group of vigilantes, and posters wanted to talk about his outfit and "wait for the facts."

We have a video of a white woman breaking the law and threatening the black man who had the audacity to confront her with a cop-altercation. We hear her pretend to be breathless and hysterical as she cries for law enforcement to rescue her from the scary black man who offered her dog a treat. And yet posters want to know what happened before, question his motives, and stomp their feet about being called Karen.

My life doesn't matter to you. I get it. I'm so damn tired of this.


Co-signing all of this. It’s exhausting.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2020 21:13     Subject: I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When a country was founded on owning humans worth 3/5 of a human and sold like cattle, what do you expect? When a country built itself old the backs of Irish and Chinese under brutal conditions and very little respect, what do you expect? When a country is founded by swindling, killing and executing Natives to gain land, what can you expect in the future? Why are you surprised by this? Even when fruit grows large and seems healthy, that dose of poison it grew with is still at the heart of that fruit and it is rotten. This nation was created from rotten fruit and it will pay for those transgressions somehow, some way until the debt is settled.

PREACH!!!!
PREACH!!!!
PREACH!!!!
PREACH!!!!


Preach? Do you not understand that you are falling to the same self aggrandizing behavior as if an online poster is speaking from the word of god? Violence may be necessary but the people you refer to are all dead. The US is not alone as a country of conquerors. It’s pretty much the entire world that has been conquered at least once. Almost always at the hand of violence. Either way, convicting our country is not going to save this man or help this man’s family going forward. There were actual steps that should be taken mentioned above that were very reasonable. The police apologizing, retraining, convicting the killlers. Those will make more of a difference.


The first real step would be to remove LEO limited/qualified immunity. That would wake up the good and bad apples.

https://theappeal.org/qualified-immunity-explained/ get back at me here after you read this.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2020 21:03     Subject: I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When a country was founded on owning humans worth 3/5 of a human and sold like cattle, what do you expect? When a country built itself old the backs of Irish and Chinese under brutal conditions and very little respect, what do you expect? When a country is founded by swindling, killing and executing Natives to gain land, what can you expect in the future? Why are you surprised by this? Even when fruit grows large and seems healthy, that dose of poison it grew with is still at the heart of that fruit and it is rotten. This nation was created from rotten fruit and it will pay for those transgressions somehow, some way until the debt is settled.

PREACH!!!!
PREACH!!!!
PREACH!!!!
PREACH!!!!


Preach? Do you not understand that you are falling to the same self aggrandizing behavior as if an online poster is speaking from the word of god? Violence may be necessary but the people you refer to are all dead. The US is not alone as a country of conquerors. It’s pretty much the entire world that has been conquered at least once. Almost always at the hand of violence. Either way, convicting our country is not going to save this man or help this man’s family going forward. There were actual steps that should be taken mentioned above that were very reasonable. The police apologizing, retraining, convicting the killlers. Those will make more of a difference.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2020 20:48     Subject: I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I refuse to watch beheading videos and I refuse to watch videos of a man executed in the US. That doesn't mean I haven't read several descriptions, though. It makes me want to cry or vomit or both. At the same time I feel helpless as a nobody in the DC area to actually have any impact on what happens to these cops or on stopping this from happening again.


There is something you can do. This tweet:
Dr. Amitha Kalaichandran
@DrAmithaMD
·

1. Start with yourself(I'm as imperfect as they come):
https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/takeatest.html
2. Read about #bias at work:
@twiffanyjana's "Erasing Institutional Bias"&
@StanfordSPARQ/Jennifer Eberhardt's "Biased"
3. Be the change
4. Know better,do better(then lead)

I took the implicit bias test which finds me with significant bias against blacks, even though I work with, am friends with blacks and live in a mostly AA part of DC. Start with yourself!


Thank you. I've taken the implicit bias test and I'm biased against black people and hispanic people. I have regular .... debates .... with my father about "the Mexicans" (aka anybody who looks Latin) but being aware doesn't mean that my upbringing doesn't effect me in fundamental ways to this day. It feels like I've made progress but it also feels like what the f&*$ does my progress matter when there are literally people being killed and the killers just walking away.

Anonymous
Post 05/26/2020 20:40     Subject: I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight
Anonymous wrote:The cops need to be charged with homicide. This was murder.


This is America. That charge won't stick. It would be a mistake. Remember Philando Castile. Same metro area. I don't remember what that dumb cop was charged with.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2020 20:38     Subject: I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A bad apple spoils the bushel. Only some cops murder but the rest watch it happen and squeal “bad apple!” as if proximity didn’t already rot them too.


How often do they squeal 'bad apple' in court?

Pretty much never.


Exactly. They do it anonymously on DCUM.


Well played
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2020 20:37     Subject: I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight
Two experts on police use of force said the officer clearly restrained the man for too long.

The man was under control and no longer fighting, said David A. Harris, a University of Pittsburgh law professor who specializes in police conduct.

Andrew Scott, a former Boca Raton, Florida, police chief who now testifies as an expert witness in use-of-force cases, agreed, saying the officers should have at least rolled him on his side so he could breathe.

The death was “a combination of not being trained properly or disregarding their training,” Scott said. “He couldn’t move. He was telling them he couldn’t breathe, and they ignored him. I can’t even describe it. It was difficult to watch.”

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/05/26/i-cant-even-describe-it-use-of-force-experts-say-police-restrained-george-floyd-for-too-long/
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2020 20:37     Subject: I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight
The cops need to be charged with homicide. This was murder.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2020 20:34     Subject: I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A bad apple spoils the bushel. Only some cops murder but the rest watch it happen and squeal “bad apple!” as if proximity didn’t already rot them too.


How often do they squeal 'bad apple' in court?

Pretty much never.


Exactly. They do it anonymously on DCUM.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2020 20:33     Subject: I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight
Anonymous wrote:A bad apple spoils the bushel. Only some cops murder but the rest watch it happen and squeal “bad apple!” as if proximity didn’t already rot them too.


How often do they squeal 'bad apple' in court?

Pretty much never.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2020 20:32     Subject: I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight
A bad apple spoils the bushel. Only some cops murder but the rest watch it happen and squeal “bad apple!” as if proximity didn’t already rot them too.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2020 20:32     Subject: I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What an absolutely fking awful thing. And what’s important to know is that this has ALWAYS been happening, but those of us who don’t live it (aka white people) have been able to ignore it. Now cell phone videos make it undeniable. But it’s always been there.


Black people have been trying to tell us this a long time.


If this is how this cop (and others) behaved while wearing cameras, being on camera, knowing that a crowd had formed, and knowing that cars were driving by during daylight hours, just imagine how it used to be...
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2020 20:30     Subject: I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight
Anonymous wrote:Don’t resist cops, don’t get pinned down.


"Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery." Malcolm X
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2020 20:30     Subject: I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight
Anonymous wrote:I'm not saying what the officer did was right. But all the armchair quarterbacks need to think for a second how years of dealing with thugs wears you down. To protect yourself, you learn to just go through the motions of aggressive force.

I encourage everyone to go out on the streets every day and deal with the people they have to deal with while fearing for your life. It's not easy and it wouldn't be for me.


I was taught that anything you say following the word but is precisely in support of or justification for the first part of your statement. "I'm not saying what the officer did was right BUT...I am."