Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The link for general budget doesn’t work and doesn’t tgat grabt support The massive UVA hospital as well?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t think this is correct. Cite please.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:hardly. Please go read the responsible 13:50 above. State universities have a different mission than small private institutions do. Also they are funded by the Commonwealth so don’t need to worry as much as the Slacs do about giving. Finally, UVA already has a 6.2 billion dollar endowment since it agreed to take less from the Commonwealth in exchange for more freedom. It manages itself far better than the Commonwealth ever did.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you not THINK before you post? What schools are at the top of the list? The small expensive privates where only the wealthy and scholarship kids can now afford to attend ergo the wealthy donate and the poor graduates do not (especially because their own parents were not in a position to donate to their own schools, if they attended college at all. So what might you expect to be in the lower end if this list? The large publics whose job it is to service the needs of ALL of the students in the state. Simply by definition you are going to have more cost-conscious families ( like ours) who watch every dime in the public universities but that has nothing to do with university spirit or alumni connections. It is also the mission of public universities to turn out new members of the service industry, as UVA does, in the less well-paid careers of nursing, teaching and lower paying government service.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA
Do they really? Is the alumni network strong and supportive? How about the percent of alumni giving? Just asking. (All the parent I know love it because of the in-state tuition, oh, and they were national champs last year in men's basketball)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahhansen/2018/08/21/grateful-grads-2018-200-colleges-with-the-happiest-most-successful-alumni/#34da262e1a0a
UVA does NOT make the list.
I saw that! I'm guessing the parents of in-state students love it for the price tag, but the students not so much.
Top 15 for "Students Love These Colleges" in Princeton Review:
Vanderbilt
Tulane
Kansas State
Brown
Wisconsin
William & Mary
Lehigh
Virginia Tech
Clemson
Auburn
Emory
Olin
Williams
Wash U
Dayton
Interesting mix.
And only VA has two states on the list. The best STEM school and the best LAC in the state. UVA must be crying.
To be fair, UVA gets more from the state on a per student basis than all but the two HBCUs. JMU gets the least. JMU only gets 56% as much as UVA for a full time equivalent.
State budget and in-state enrollment.
State budget, General Fund appropriations. https://budget.lis.virginia.gov/secretariat/2020/1...Chapter/1/office-of-education/
In State FTE Enrollment: https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/E5B_Report.asp
GF Per in-state FTE looks like this:
Norfolk State University $16,132
Virginia State University $14,719
University of Virginia $10,529
William & Mary $9,453
Virginia Commonwealth University $9,396
Old Dominion University $8,746
University of Mary Washington $8,306
Virginia Tech $8,261
Longwood University $7,987
Radford University $7,746
Christopher Newport University $7,592
George Mason University $6,661
James Madison University $5,896
Try this one. https://budget.lis.virginia.gov/secretariat/2020/1/HB30/Chapter/1/office-of-education/
General Fund does not fund any part of the hospital if you look at the components. It is largely funded by "Higher Education Operating" which is a catchall for tuition, fees, and in this case patient fees. The biggest state benefit to the UVA hospital is that it operates tax free as a non-profit. The thing to look at is General Fund, which is the part coming from state revenues.
I only post this because there is a misconception that UVA doesn't get money from the state. State support for UVA is generous compared to other Virginia higher education institutions. If you compare to other states, Virginia spends on higher education than most.
Anonymous wrote:The link for general budget doesn’t work and doesn’t tgat grabt support The massive UVA hospital as well?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t think this is correct. Cite please.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:hardly. Please go read the responsible 13:50 above. State universities have a different mission than small private institutions do. Also they are funded by the Commonwealth so don’t need to worry as much as the Slacs do about giving. Finally, UVA already has a 6.2 billion dollar endowment since it agreed to take less from the Commonwealth in exchange for more freedom. It manages itself far better than the Commonwealth ever did.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you not THINK before you post? What schools are at the top of the list? The small expensive privates where only the wealthy and scholarship kids can now afford to attend ergo the wealthy donate and the poor graduates do not (especially because their own parents were not in a position to donate to their own schools, if they attended college at all. So what might you expect to be in the lower end if this list? The large publics whose job it is to service the needs of ALL of the students in the state. Simply by definition you are going to have more cost-conscious families ( like ours) who watch every dime in the public universities but that has nothing to do with university spirit or alumni connections. It is also the mission of public universities to turn out new members of the service industry, as UVA does, in the less well-paid careers of nursing, teaching and lower paying government service.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA
Do they really? Is the alumni network strong and supportive? How about the percent of alumni giving? Just asking. (All the parent I know love it because of the in-state tuition, oh, and they were national champs last year in men's basketball)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahhansen/2018/08/21/grateful-grads-2018-200-colleges-with-the-happiest-most-successful-alumni/#34da262e1a0a
UVA does NOT make the list.
I saw that! I'm guessing the parents of in-state students love it for the price tag, but the students not so much.
Top 15 for "Students Love These Colleges" in Princeton Review:
Vanderbilt
Tulane
Kansas State
Brown
Wisconsin
William & Mary
Lehigh
Virginia Tech
Clemson
Auburn
Emory
Olin
Williams
Wash U
Dayton
Interesting mix.
And only VA has two states on the list. The best STEM school and the best LAC in the state. UVA must be crying.
To be fair, UVA gets more from the state on a per student basis than all but the two HBCUs. JMU gets the least. JMU only gets 56% as much as UVA for a full time equivalent.
State budget and in-state enrollment.
State budget, General Fund appropriations. https://budget.lis.virginia.gov/secretariat/2020/1...Chapter/1/office-of-education/
In State FTE Enrollment: https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/E5B_Report.asp
GF Per in-state FTE looks like this:
Norfolk State University $16,132
Virginia State University $14,719
University of Virginia $10,529
William & Mary $9,453
Virginia Commonwealth University $9,396
Old Dominion University $8,746
University of Mary Washington $8,306
Virginia Tech $8,261
Longwood University $7,987
Radford University $7,746
Christopher Newport University $7,592
George Mason University $6,661
James Madison University $5,896
The link for general budget doesn’t work and doesn’t tgat grabt support The massive UVA hospital as well?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t think this is correct. Cite please.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:hardly. Please go read the responsible 13:50 above. State universities have a different mission than small private institutions do. Also they are funded by the Commonwealth so don’t need to worry as much as the Slacs do about giving. Finally, UVA already has a 6.2 billion dollar endowment since it agreed to take less from the Commonwealth in exchange for more freedom. It manages itself far better than the Commonwealth ever did.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you not THINK before you post? What schools are at the top of the list? The small expensive privates where only the wealthy and scholarship kids can now afford to attend ergo the wealthy donate and the poor graduates do not (especially because their own parents were not in a position to donate to their own schools, if they attended college at all. So what might you expect to be in the lower end if this list? The large publics whose job it is to service the needs of ALL of the students in the state. Simply by definition you are going to have more cost-conscious families ( like ours) who watch every dime in the public universities but that has nothing to do with university spirit or alumni connections. It is also the mission of public universities to turn out new members of the service industry, as UVA does, in the less well-paid careers of nursing, teaching and lower paying government service.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA
Do they really? Is the alumni network strong and supportive? How about the percent of alumni giving? Just asking. (All the parent I know love it because of the in-state tuition, oh, and they were national champs last year in men's basketball)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahhansen/2018/08/21/grateful-grads-2018-200-colleges-with-the-happiest-most-successful-alumni/#34da262e1a0a
UVA does NOT make the list.
I saw that! I'm guessing the parents of in-state students love it for the price tag, but the students not so much.
Top 15 for "Students Love These Colleges" in Princeton Review:
Vanderbilt
Tulane
Kansas State
Brown
Wisconsin
William & Mary
Lehigh
Virginia Tech
Clemson
Auburn
Emory
Olin
Williams
Wash U
Dayton
Interesting mix.
And only VA has two states on the list. The best STEM school and the best LAC in the state. UVA must be crying.
To be fair, UVA gets more from the state on a per student basis than all but the two HBCUs. JMU gets the least. JMU only gets 56% as much as UVA for a full time equivalent.
State budget and in-state enrollment.
State budget, General Fund appropriations. https://budget.lis.virginia.gov/secretariat/2020/1...Chapter/1/office-of-education/
In State FTE Enrollment: https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/E5B_Report.asp
GF Per in-state FTE looks like this:
Norfolk State University $16,132
Virginia State University $14,719
University of Virginia $10,529
William & Mary $9,453
Virginia Commonwealth University $9,396
Old Dominion University $8,746
University of Mary Washington $8,306
Virginia Tech $8,261
Longwood University $7,987
Radford University $7,746
Christopher Newport University $7,592
George Mason University $6,661
James Madison University $5,896
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think this is correct. Cite please.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:hardly. Please go read the responsible 13:50 above. State universities have a different mission than small private institutions do. Also they are funded by the Commonwealth so don’t need to worry as much as the Slacs do about giving. Finally, UVA already has a 6.2 billion dollar endowment since it agreed to take less from the Commonwealth in exchange for more freedom. It manages itself far better than the Commonwealth ever did.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you not THINK before you post? What schools are at the top of the list? The small expensive privates where only the wealthy and scholarship kids can now afford to attend ergo the wealthy donate and the poor graduates do not (especially because their own parents were not in a position to donate to their own schools, if they attended college at all. So what might you expect to be in the lower end if this list? The large publics whose job it is to service the needs of ALL of the students in the state. Simply by definition you are going to have more cost-conscious families ( like ours) who watch every dime in the public universities but that has nothing to do with university spirit or alumni connections. It is also the mission of public universities to turn out new members of the service industry, as UVA does, in the less well-paid careers of nursing, teaching and lower paying government service.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA
Do they really? Is the alumni network strong and supportive? How about the percent of alumni giving? Just asking. (All the parent I know love it because of the in-state tuition, oh, and they were national champs last year in men's basketball)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahhansen/2018/08/21/grateful-grads-2018-200-colleges-with-the-happiest-most-successful-alumni/#34da262e1a0a
UVA does NOT make the list.
I saw that! I'm guessing the parents of in-state students love it for the price tag, but the students not so much.
Top 15 for "Students Love These Colleges" in Princeton Review:
Vanderbilt
Tulane
Kansas State
Brown
Wisconsin
William & Mary
Lehigh
Virginia Tech
Clemson
Auburn
Emory
Olin
Williams
Wash U
Dayton
Interesting mix.
And only VA has two states on the list. The best STEM school and the best LAC in the state. UVA must be crying.
To be fair, UVA gets more from the state on a per student basis than all but the two HBCUs. JMU gets the least. JMU only gets 56% as much as UVA for a full time equivalent.
I don’t think this is correct. Cite please.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:hardly. Please go read the responsible 13:50 above. State universities have a different mission than small private institutions do. Also they are funded by the Commonwealth so don’t need to worry as much as the Slacs do about giving. Finally, UVA already has a 6.2 billion dollar endowment since it agreed to take less from the Commonwealth in exchange for more freedom. It manages itself far better than the Commonwealth ever did.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you not THINK before you post? What schools are at the top of the list? The small expensive privates where only the wealthy and scholarship kids can now afford to attend ergo the wealthy donate and the poor graduates do not (especially because their own parents were not in a position to donate to their own schools, if they attended college at all. So what might you expect to be in the lower end if this list? The large publics whose job it is to service the needs of ALL of the students in the state. Simply by definition you are going to have more cost-conscious families ( like ours) who watch every dime in the public universities but that has nothing to do with university spirit or alumni connections. It is also the mission of public universities to turn out new members of the service industry, as UVA does, in the less well-paid careers of nursing, teaching and lower paying government service.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA
Do they really? Is the alumni network strong and supportive? How about the percent of alumni giving? Just asking. (All the parent I know love it because of the in-state tuition, oh, and they were national champs last year in men's basketball)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahhansen/2018/08/21/grateful-grads-2018-200-colleges-with-the-happiest-most-successful-alumni/#34da262e1a0a
UVA does NOT make the list.
I saw that! I'm guessing the parents of in-state students love it for the price tag, but the students not so much.
Top 15 for "Students Love These Colleges" in Princeton Review:
Vanderbilt
Tulane
Kansas State
Brown
Wisconsin
William & Mary
Lehigh
Virginia Tech
Clemson
Auburn
Emory
Olin
Williams
Wash U
Dayton
Interesting mix.
And only VA has two states on the list. The best STEM school and the best LAC in the state. UVA must be crying.
To be fair, UVA gets more from the state on a per student basis than all but the two HBCUs. JMU gets the least. JMU only gets 56% as much as UVA for a full time equivalent.
Anonymous wrote:hardly. Please go read the responsible 13:50 above. State universities have a different mission than small private institutions do. Also they are funded by the Commonwealth so don’t need to worry as much as the Slacs do about giving. Finally, UVA already has a 6.2 billion dollar endowment since it agreed to take less from the Commonwealth in exchange for more freedom. It manages itself far better than the Commonwealth ever did.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you not THINK before you post? What schools are at the top of the list? The small expensive privates where only the wealthy and scholarship kids can now afford to attend ergo the wealthy donate and the poor graduates do not (especially because their own parents were not in a position to donate to their own schools, if they attended college at all. So what might you expect to be in the lower end if this list? The large publics whose job it is to service the needs of ALL of the students in the state. Simply by definition you are going to have more cost-conscious families ( like ours) who watch every dime in the public universities but that has nothing to do with university spirit or alumni connections. It is also the mission of public universities to turn out new members of the service industry, as UVA does, in the less well-paid careers of nursing, teaching and lower paying government service.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA
Do they really? Is the alumni network strong and supportive? How about the percent of alumni giving? Just asking. (All the parent I know love it because of the in-state tuition, oh, and they were national champs last year in men's basketball)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahhansen/2018/08/21/grateful-grads-2018-200-colleges-with-the-happiest-most-successful-alumni/#34da262e1a0a
UVA does NOT make the list.
I saw that! I'm guessing the parents of in-state students love it for the price tag, but the students not so much.
Top 15 for "Students Love These Colleges" in Princeton Review:
Vanderbilt
Tulane
Kansas State
Brown
Wisconsin
William & Mary
Lehigh
Virginia Tech
Clemson
Auburn
Emory
Olin
Williams
Wash U
Dayton
Interesting mix.
And only VA has two states on the list. The best STEM school and the best LAC in the state. UVA must be crying.
Anonymous wrote:Shocked no one has said Virginia Tech yet. Yes, I am biased as I went there but I don’t know anyone who isn’t absolutely obsessed with our school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you not THINK before you post? What schools are at the top of the list? The small expensive privates where only the wealthy and scholarship kids can now afford to attend ergo the wealthy donate and the poor graduates do not (especially because their own parents were not in a position to donate to their own schools, if they attended college at all. So what might you expect to be in the lower end if this list? The large publics whose job it is to service the needs of ALL of the students in the state. Simply by definition you are going to have more cost-conscious families ( like ours) who watch every dime in the public universities but that has nothing to do with university spirit or alumni connections. It is also the mission of public universities to turn out new members of the service industry, as UVA does, in the less well-paid careers of nursing, teaching and lower paying government service.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA
Do they really? Is the alumni network strong and supportive? How about the percent of alumni giving? Just asking. (All the parent I know love it because of the in-state tuition, oh, and they were national champs last year in men's basketball)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahhansen/2018/08/21/grateful-grads-2018-200-colleges-with-the-happiest-most-successful-alumni/#34da262e1a0a
UVA does NOT make the list.
I saw that! I'm guessing the parents of in-state students love it for the price tag, but the students not so much.
Top 15 for "Students Love These Colleges" in Princeton Review:
Vanderbilt
Tulane
Kansas State
Brown
Wisconsin
William & Mary
Lehigh
Virginia Tech
Clemson
Auburn
Emory
Olin
Williams
Wash U
Dayton
Interesting mix.
And only VA has two states on the list. The best STEM school and the best LAC in the state. UVA must be crying.
This list is not about alums for one thing but about current students. Not a very data driven compilation either.
hardly. Please go read the responsible 13:50 above. State universities have a different mission than small private institutions do. Also they are funded by the Commonwealth so don’t need to worry as much as the Slacs do about giving. Finally, UVA already has a 6.2 billion dollar endowment since it agreed to take less from the Commonwealth in exchange for more freedom. It manages itself far better than the Commonwealth ever did.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you not THINK before you post? What schools are at the top of the list? The small expensive privates where only the wealthy and scholarship kids can now afford to attend ergo the wealthy donate and the poor graduates do not (especially because their own parents were not in a position to donate to their own schools, if they attended college at all. So what might you expect to be in the lower end if this list? The large publics whose job it is to service the needs of ALL of the students in the state. Simply by definition you are going to have more cost-conscious families ( like ours) who watch every dime in the public universities but that has nothing to do with university spirit or alumni connections. It is also the mission of public universities to turn out new members of the service industry, as UVA does, in the less well-paid careers of nursing, teaching and lower paying government service.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA
Do they really? Is the alumni network strong and supportive? How about the percent of alumni giving? Just asking. (All the parent I know love it because of the in-state tuition, oh, and they were national champs last year in men's basketball)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahhansen/2018/08/21/grateful-grads-2018-200-colleges-with-the-happiest-most-successful-alumni/#34da262e1a0a
UVA does NOT make the list.
I saw that! I'm guessing the parents of in-state students love it for the price tag, but the students not so much.
Top 15 for "Students Love These Colleges" in Princeton Review:
Vanderbilt
Tulane
Kansas State
Brown
Wisconsin
William & Mary
Lehigh
Virginia Tech
Clemson
Auburn
Emory
Olin
Williams
Wash U
Dayton
Interesting mix.
And only VA has two states on the list. The best STEM school and the best LAC in the state. UVA must be crying.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA
Do they really? Is the alumni network strong and supportive? How about the percent of alumni giving? Just asking. (All the parent I know love it because of the in-state tuition, oh, and they were national champs last year in men's basketball)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahhansen/2018/08/21/grateful-grads-2018-200-colleges-with-the-happiest-most-successful-alumni/#34da262e1a0a
UVA does NOT make the list.
Actually, UVA is one of the highest ranked public in giving.
https://www.collegeconsensus.com/rankings/best-college-alumni-networks/
USNWR is a better source for giving rates.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you not THINK before you post? What schools are at the top of the list? The small expensive privates where only the wealthy and scholarship kids can now afford to attend ergo the wealthy donate and the poor graduates do not (especially because their own parents were not in a position to donate to their own schools, if they attended college at all. So what might you expect to be in the lower end if this list? The large publics whose job it is to service the needs of ALL of the students in the state. Simply by definition you are going to have more cost-conscious families ( like ours) who watch every dime in the public universities but that has nothing to do with university spirit or alumni connections. It is also the mission of public universities to turn out new members of the service industry, as UVA does, in the less well-paid careers of nursing, teaching and lower paying government service.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA
Do they really? Is the alumni network strong and supportive? How about the percent of alumni giving? Just asking. (All the parent I know love it because of the in-state tuition, oh, and they were national champs last year in men's basketball)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahhansen/2018/08/21/grateful-grads-2018-200-colleges-with-the-happiest-most-successful-alumni/#34da262e1a0a
UVA does NOT make the list.
I saw that! I'm guessing the parents of in-state students love it for the price tag, but the students not so much.
Top 15 for "Students Love These Colleges" in Princeton Review:
Vanderbilt
Tulane
Kansas State
Brown
Wisconsin
William & Mary
Lehigh
Virginia Tech
Clemson
Auburn
Emory
Olin
Williams
Wash U
Dayton
Interesting mix.
And only VA has two states on the list. The best STEM school and the best LAC in the state. UVA must be crying.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Big10 schools seem to get a lot of love—especially the ones with strong sports traditions.
Lots of rabid football fans at Ohio State, Michigan, Nebraska and Penn State. Same for basketball at Indiana.
Of course Big is the first part of the Big 10 name. Ohio State enrollment is 66K, Michigan is 45K, Nebraska 26K, Penn State 47K. These are city sized schools.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you not THINK before you post? What schools are at the top of the list? The small expensive privates where only the wealthy and scholarship kids can now afford to attend ergo the wealthy donate and the poor graduates do not (especially because their own parents were not in a position to donate to their own schools, if they attended college at all. So what might you expect to be in the lower end if this list? The large publics whose job it is to service the needs of ALL of the students in the state. Simply by definition you are going to have more cost-conscious families ( like ours) who watch every dime in the public universities but that has nothing to do with university spirit or alumni connections. It is also the mission of public universities to turn out new members of the service industry, as UVA does, in the less well-paid careers of nursing, teaching and lower paying government service.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA
Do they really? Is the alumni network strong and supportive? How about the percent of alumni giving? Just asking. (All the parent I know love it because of the in-state tuition, oh, and they were national champs last year in men's basketball)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahhansen/2018/08/21/grateful-grads-2018-200-colleges-with-the-happiest-most-successful-alumni/#34da262e1a0a
UVA does NOT make the list.
I saw that! I'm guessing the parents of in-state students love it for the price tag, but the students not so much.
Top 15 for "Students Love These Colleges" in Princeton Review:
Vanderbilt
Tulane
Kansas State
Brown
Wisconsin
William & Mary
Lehigh
Virginia Tech
Clemson
Auburn
Emory
Olin
Williams
Wash U
Dayton
Interesting mix.
Anonymous wrote:Big10 schools seem to get a lot of love—especially the ones with strong sports traditions.
Lots of rabid football fans at Ohio State, Michigan, Nebraska and Penn State. Same for basketball at Indiana.