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Post 09/13/2020 01:58     Subject: Re:BA only local club to be accepted to MLSYA

Anonymous wrote:Statement 1. The Boys ECNL is now the clear 2nd tier option, both nationally and in this local area.

Statement 2. There are teams outside of both the MLS League and ECNL that are better than many ECNL teams.

Statement 3. There are players outside of both the MLS League and ECNL that are better than many ECNL players.

All three are true statements. In other words, the truth of statements 2 & 3 does not in any way detract from the truth of statement 1.

Similarly,

Statement 1. The EPL is at a higher level than League 1 (Fr), and a vastly higher level than MLS.

Statement 2. PSG is better than most of the teams in the EPL.

Statement 3. There are players in MLS that are better than many EPL players.

All three are true statements. The truth of statements 2 & 3 does not in any way detract from the truth of statement 1.

For example, the fact that star MLS players like Carlos Vela and Nocolas Lodiero would likely start for most mid-to-low table EPL teams doesn't change the fact that, on average, EPL players are vastly superior to MLS players, and the vast majority of MLS players would not make a roster in the Championship, let alone the EPL.

When we talk about the strength of a league and its players, we are talking about the average level, from top to bottom.

So, exceptions and outliers aside, the new MLS youth league is now the undisputed top level for boys youth soccer in the US, just as the Boys DA was before it folded. A year ago, it was debatable weather the ECNL was a clear 2nd. In this area, Loudoun's choice to leave DA and join ECNL (playing BRYC, McLean and a bunch of teams from the Carolinas), didn't make a whole lot of sense to me. It seemed like the top level of EDP / USYS Nat League offered just as good if not better competition, with less travel. With the ECNL additions of Arlington, VDA, Richmond, Pipeline, .... things look a lot different now.


Loudoun's decision was a result of being told that they would not be getting the older age groups in DA. I was not privy to the reasons behind that decision - but suspect it had more to do with DC United's new location and plans (at the time, now seemingly abandoned) to move the DC United Academy to Loudoun than it did with any specific failure of Loudoun's program itself.
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Post 09/13/2020 00:10     Subject: Re:BA only local club to be accepted to MLSYA

MLS Next started this weekend! Here are the platform teams listed.
https://www.soccerwire.com/news/new-youth-development-platform-mls-next-set-to-kickoff-this-weekend/
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Post 05/17/2020 22:01     Subject: BA only local club to be accepted to MLSYA

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All this talk from ALL you parents and the only one accepted is a team from Baltimore HA! teams from NOVA right now must really be feeling hurt.


Why did you purposely leave out Bethesda Soccer Club? So that’s 2 from Maryland.


I didn't know Bethesda was in Nova


Are you that dumb? Why didn’t you ask if Baltimore was in Nova as well?


Point is idiot that no NOVA club made it to MLS Academy even after all the parents fist pump their chest

Only MD clubs received offers and don't talk to me about Arlington if they had a offer they would have accepted the same way any other girls clubs would have accepted ECNL if given the chance


WRONG you IDIOT
DC United will play and train out of Northern VA .So there is your NOVA Club asshat.


Well he's mainly wrong because both VDA and Arlington received offers from the MLS league.


How do you know this.


I know this from multiple sources. One being the call Arlington held for all DA parents where they explained exactly what their options were and why they had reached the decision they did. It was very clear from that call that
- they (and Richmond/VDA) were all invited to be part of the MLS league
- the MLS league couldn't, and still can't really, define in detail what it is actually going to look like, and nor was it clear what level of commitment the MLS clubs might maintain toward the non-MLS teams going forwards
- Arlington may well move back to the MLS league in the future (although not this year) if everything works out well
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Post 05/17/2020 18:51     Subject: Re:BA only local club to be accepted to MLSYA

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL will be watered down with 2nd team while the top boys will be in MLS. So much for being a top league and you better hope this GA doesn't pick up momentum otherwise ECNL will be a thing of the past


There is only 3 clubs, 2 in MD and one in DC , in the whole region here doing MLS. Not every top player is looking to go into MLS. Seen lot good talent individual outside current MLS teams.


Agree. There will be talented teams in MLS, ECNL, other leagues as well. Here’s more than 1 “proven pathway” to college. But there were, and will be, plenty of parents that will get sucked into a team b/c it plays the “highest” level. Tell us how that works when there’s a roster of 30 kids. B/c bloated rosters happen all too frequently and your DS may never get more than 50% PT in a game, or worse, doesn’t dress for multiple games.


BaltArmour 16/17s had a roster of over 30 kids?!?! If a kid isn’t playing how are they getting into a college program? And more importantly how is a kid developing of they’re not playing? Sounds really fun...

http://balt.ussoccerda.com/sam/teams/index.php?team=12071920


That's two teams. The U17 team + maybe one or two of the best U16 players play (or played) in the DA league. The rest of the U16s would have played in the DA-only league under the auspices of the EDP. Not yet clear how the MLS league will handle U16/U17 age group.


It's one team, a combined U16/U17 team. That is was the age group for DA, a combined 16&17 age group. 30+ kids on the roster is 30 kids+, several kids didn't play much at all, still paid their $3k++. The U16 SAC Prem Blue team was going to play in South Atlantic EDP Conferences this spring - was mostly U16s ('04s) that didn't make DA U16/U17 team; who pushed some SAC Prem Blue down to lower teams or to another club. There was no "DA only" league other than the U12 EDP "Developmental League."

MLS will have U13, U14, U15, U16, U17 and U18/19.


All the non-MLS DA clubs, inlcuding Baltimore played their U16 teams in EDP in a special DA league called the Atlantic Development League. You can see the league schedule and standings here (you have to scroll down to get the table for this area): https://www.edpsoccer.com/adl-schedules. FWIW SAC/BA pre-academy finished last with thye following record:
SAC/BA PRE-ACADEMY 10 1 9 0 6 26 -20 3 0.3

I don't know what, if anything, DC United may have done with their U16 group though.


I stand corrected. Thought only U12s were in a different "DA only" league. DCUnited only has academy teams, there is no 2nd, 3rd, etc. team. I know a fair amount of the families/kids of that Armour preacademy U16 team. Many played HS and did not participate in full club activities in the fall and several were on the U16/U17 DA roster. So maybe that explains the poor results?


Yes - that sounds possible. If so, situation might have evened up in the spring if and when other (e.g. VA) teams lost players to HS soccer. Certainly Baltimore usually managed to put out a good team at most age groups.

wrt DC United, they may still have done something with their U16 players other than have them sit on the bench. It's a problem all the DA clubs had - there was not an official DA U16 competition, but they needed those kids to stay part of the program as they would likely form the core of the team the following year. Surely DC United and the other MLS teams must have found a way to get them game time? I have no idea what they did do they, if they did.


My understanding is that those players, U16/U17, DCUnited, didn’t not play in another league. They weren’t allowed by DA rules, maybe they set up some friendlies, but no organized league.


Certainly I haven't been able to find a league in which they played so you may well be correct that they didn't. It wasn't because of DA rules though, because - per above - all the non-MLS DA U16 teams played in a DA U16 league organized by EDP - but totally separate league from the rest of EDP - just for the DA U16 teams.


It was always a difficult transition during those two U16 and U17 years - trying to combine two full teams and keep everyone happy and developing. For Armour it wasn't a "true" U16 DA team, ten of the 16s made the U16/U17 roster last year, DCUnited had fifteen 16s on its U16/U17 roster. I didn't think Arlington had a DA program after U15. I had heard prior to DA ending that it was going to end the U13 program (like it did U12 this year) and make a U16 group to address the issue.


Yep - Arlington kept the U16s in the DA program (and the DA only EDP league) in the expectation of getting U17 this year. Which they did of course, about two months before the league vanished in a puff of smoke .


DC united reaching out to ASA players


Not surprising for top ends of those rosters.
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Post 05/17/2020 18:45     Subject: Re:BA only local club to be accepted to MLSYA

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL will be watered down with 2nd team while the top boys will be in MLS. So much for being a top league and you better hope this GA doesn't pick up momentum otherwise ECNL will be a thing of the past


There is only 3 clubs, 2 in MD and one in DC , in the whole region here doing MLS. Not every top player is looking to go into MLS. Seen lot good talent individual outside current MLS teams.


Agree. There will be talented teams in MLS, ECNL, other leagues as well. Here’s more than 1 “proven pathway” to college. But there were, and will be, plenty of parents that will get sucked into a team b/c it plays the “highest” level. Tell us how that works when there’s a roster of 30 kids. B/c bloated rosters happen all too frequently and your DS may never get more than 50% PT in a game, or worse, doesn’t dress for multiple games.


BaltArmour 16/17s had a roster of over 30 kids?!?! If a kid isn’t playing how are they getting into a college program? And more importantly how is a kid developing of they’re not playing? Sounds really fun...

http://balt.ussoccerda.com/sam/teams/index.php?team=12071920


That's two teams. The U17 team + maybe one or two of the best U16 players play (or played) in the DA league. The rest of the U16s would have played in the DA-only league under the auspices of the EDP. Not yet clear how the MLS league will handle U16/U17 age group.


It's one team, a combined U16/U17 team. That is was the age group for DA, a combined 16&17 age group. 30+ kids on the roster is 30 kids+, several kids didn't play much at all, still paid their $3k++. The U16 SAC Prem Blue team was going to play in South Atlantic EDP Conferences this spring - was mostly U16s ('04s) that didn't make DA U16/U17 team; who pushed some SAC Prem Blue down to lower teams or to another club. There was no "DA only" league other than the U12 EDP "Developmental League."

MLS will have U13, U14, U15, U16, U17 and U18/19.


All the non-MLS DA clubs, inlcuding Baltimore played their U16 teams in EDP in a special DA league called the Atlantic Development League. You can see the league schedule and standings here (you have to scroll down to get the table for this area): https://www.edpsoccer.com/adl-schedules. FWIW SAC/BA pre-academy finished last with thye following record:
SAC/BA PRE-ACADEMY 10 1 9 0 6 26 -20 3 0.3

I don't know what, if anything, DC United may have done with their U16 group though.


I stand corrected. Thought only U12s were in a different "DA only" league. DCUnited only has academy teams, there is no 2nd, 3rd, etc. team. I know a fair amount of the families/kids of that Armour preacademy U16 team. Many played HS and did not participate in full club activities in the fall and several were on the U16/U17 DA roster. So maybe that explains the poor results?


Yes - that sounds possible. If so, situation might have evened up in the spring if and when other (e.g. VA) teams lost players to HS soccer. Certainly Baltimore usually managed to put out a good team at most age groups.

wrt DC United, they may still have done something with their U16 players other than have them sit on the bench. It's a problem all the DA clubs had - there was not an official DA U16 competition, but they needed those kids to stay part of the program as they would likely form the core of the team the following year. Surely DC United and the other MLS teams must have found a way to get them game time? I have no idea what they did do they, if they did.


My understanding is that those players, U16/U17, DCUnited, didn’t not play in another league. They weren’t allowed by DA rules, maybe they set up some friendlies, but no organized league.


Certainly I haven't been able to find a league in which they played so you may well be correct that they didn't. It wasn't because of DA rules though, because - per above - all the non-MLS DA U16 teams played in a DA U16 league organized by EDP - but totally separate league from the rest of EDP - just for the DA U16 teams.


It was always a difficult transition during those two U16 and U17 years - trying to combine two full teams and keep everyone happy and developing. For Armour it wasn't a "true" U16 DA team, ten of the 16s made the U16/U17 roster last year, DCUnited had fifteen 16s on its U16/U17 roster. I didn't think Arlington had a DA program after U15. I had heard prior to DA ending that it was going to end the U13 program (like it did U12 this year) and make a U16 group to address the issue.


Yep - Arlington kept the U16s in the DA program (and the DA only EDP league) in the expectation of getting U17 this year. Which they did of course, about two months before the league vanished in a puff of smoke .


DC united reaching out to ASA players
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Post 05/17/2020 16:30     Subject: BA only local club to be accepted to MLSYA

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All this talk from ALL you parents and the only one accepted is a team from Baltimore HA! teams from NOVA right now must really be feeling hurt.


Why did you purposely leave out Bethesda Soccer Club? So that’s 2 from Maryland.


I didn't know Bethesda was in Nova


Are you that dumb? Why didn’t you ask if Baltimore was in Nova as well?


Point is idiot that no NOVA club made it to MLS Academy even after all the parents fist pump their chest

Only MD clubs received offers and don't talk to me about Arlington if they had a offer they would have accepted the same way any other girls clubs would have accepted ECNL if given the chance


WRONG you IDIOT
DC United will play and train out of Northern VA .So there is your NOVA Club asshat.


Well he's mainly wrong because both VDA and Arlington received offers from the MLS league.


How do you know this.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2020 22:20     Subject: BA only local club to be accepted to MLSYA

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.soccerwire.com/news/major-league-soccer-reveals-95-initial-member-clubs-for-new-youth-academy-league/

All this talk from ALL you parents and the only one accepted is a team from Baltimore HA! teams from NOVA right now must really be feeling hurt.


Why did you purposely leave out Bethesda Soccer Club? So that’s 2 from Maryland.


I didn't know Bethesda was in Nova


Are you that dumb? Why didn’t you ask if Baltimore was in Nova as well?


Point is idiot that no NOVA club made it to MLS Academy even after all the parents fist pump their chest

Only MD clubs received offers and don't talk to me about Arlington if they had a offer they would have accepted the same way any other girls clubs would have accepted ECNL if given the chance


WRONG you IDIOT
DC United will play and train out of Northern VA .So there is your NOVA Club asshat.


Well he's mainly wrong because both VDA and Arlington received offers from the MLS league.
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Post 05/16/2020 16:12     Subject: BA only local club to be accepted to MLSYA

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All this talk from ALL you parents and the only one accepted is a team from Baltimore HA! teams from NOVA right now must really be feeling hurt.


Why did you purposely leave out Bethesda Soccer Club? So that’s 2 from Maryland.


I didn't know Bethesda was in Nova


Are you that dumb? Why didn’t you ask if Baltimore was in Nova as well?


Point is idiot that no NOVA club made it to MLS Academy even after all the parents fist pump their chest

Only MD clubs received offers and don't talk to me about Arlington if they had a offer they would have accepted the same way any other girls clubs would have accepted ECNL if given the chance


WRONG you IDIOT
DC United will play and train out of Northern VA .So there is your NOVA Club asshat.


Kind of.... but not really.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2020 14:49     Subject: BA only local club to be accepted to MLSYA

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.soccerwire.com/news/major-league-soccer-reveals-95-initial-member-clubs-for-new-youth-academy-league/

All this talk from ALL you parents and the only one accepted is a team from Baltimore HA! teams from NOVA right now must really be feeling hurt.


Why did you purposely leave out Bethesda Soccer Club? So that’s 2 from Maryland.


I didn't know Bethesda was in Nova


Are you that dumb? Why didn’t you ask if Baltimore was in Nova as well?


Point is idiot that no NOVA club made it to MLS Academy even after all the parents fist pump their chest

Only MD clubs received offers and don't talk to me about Arlington if they had a offer they would have accepted the same way any other girls clubs would have accepted ECNL if given the chance


WRONG you IDIOT
DC United will play and train out of Northern VA .So there is your NOVA Club asshat.
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Post 05/16/2020 11:19     Subject: Re:BA only local club to be accepted to MLSYA

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL will be watered down with 2nd team while the top boys will be in MLS. So much for being a top league and you better hope this GA doesn't pick up momentum otherwise ECNL will be a thing of the past


There is only 3 clubs, 2 in MD and one in DC , in the whole region here doing MLS. Not every top player is looking to go into MLS. Seen lot good talent individual outside current MLS teams.


Agree. There will be talented teams in MLS, ECNL, other leagues as well. Here’s more than 1 “proven pathway” to college. But there were, and will be, plenty of parents that will get sucked into a team b/c it plays the “highest” level. Tell us how that works when there’s a roster of 30 kids. B/c bloated rosters happen all too frequently and your DS may never get more than 50% PT in a game, or worse, doesn’t dress for multiple games.


BaltArmour 16/17s had a roster of over 30 kids?!?! If a kid isn’t playing how are they getting into a college program? And more importantly how is a kid developing of they’re not playing? Sounds really fun...

http://balt.ussoccerda.com/sam/teams/index.php?team=12071920


That's two teams. The U17 team + maybe one or two of the best U16 players play (or played) in the DA league. The rest of the U16s would have played in the DA-only league under the auspices of the EDP. Not yet clear how the MLS league will handle U16/U17 age group.


It's one team, a combined U16/U17 team. That is was the age group for DA, a combined 16&17 age group. 30+ kids on the roster is 30 kids+, several kids didn't play much at all, still paid their $3k++. The U16 SAC Prem Blue team was going to play in South Atlantic EDP Conferences this spring - was mostly U16s ('04s) that didn't make DA U16/U17 team; who pushed some SAC Prem Blue down to lower teams or to another club. There was no "DA only" league other than the U12 EDP "Developmental League."

MLS will have U13, U14, U15, U16, U17 and U18/19.


All the non-MLS DA clubs, inlcuding Baltimore played their U16 teams in EDP in a special DA league called the Atlantic Development League. You can see the league schedule and standings here (you have to scroll down to get the table for this area): https://www.edpsoccer.com/adl-schedules. FWIW SAC/BA pre-academy finished last with thye following record:
SAC/BA PRE-ACADEMY 10 1 9 0 6 26 -20 3 0.3

I don't know what, if anything, DC United may have done with their U16 group though.


I stand corrected. Thought only U12s were in a different "DA only" league. DCUnited only has academy teams, there is no 2nd, 3rd, etc. team. I know a fair amount of the families/kids of that Armour preacademy U16 team. Many played HS and did not participate in full club activities in the fall and several were on the U16/U17 DA roster. So maybe that explains the poor results?


Yes - that sounds possible. If so, situation might have evened up in the spring if and when other (e.g. VA) teams lost players to HS soccer. Certainly Baltimore usually managed to put out a good team at most age groups.

wrt DC United, they may still have done something with their U16 players other than have them sit on the bench. It's a problem all the DA clubs had - there was not an official DA U16 competition, but they needed those kids to stay part of the program as they would likely form the core of the team the following year. Surely DC United and the other MLS teams must have found a way to get them game time? I have no idea what they did do they, if they did.


My understanding is that those players, U16/U17, DCUnited, didn’t not play in another league. They weren’t allowed by DA rules, maybe they set up some friendlies, but no organized league.


Certainly I haven't been able to find a league in which they played so you may well be correct that they didn't. It wasn't because of DA rules though, because - per above - all the non-MLS DA U16 teams played in a DA U16 league organized by EDP - but totally separate league from the rest of EDP - just for the DA U16 teams.


It was always a difficult transition during those two U16 and U17 years - trying to combine two full teams and keep everyone happy and developing. For Armour it wasn't a "true" U16 DA team, ten of the 16s made the U16/U17 roster last year, DCUnited had fifteen 16s on its U16/U17 roster. I didn't think Arlington had a DA program after U15. I had heard prior to DA ending that it was going to end the U13 program (like it did U12 this year) and make a U16 group to address the issue.


Yep - Arlington kept the U16s in the DA program (and the DA only EDP league) in the expectation of getting U17 this year. Which they did of course, about two months before the league vanished in a puff of smoke .
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2020 11:16     Subject: BA only local club to be accepted to MLSYA

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.soccerwire.com/news/major-league-soccer-reveals-95-initial-member-clubs-for-new-youth-academy-league/

All this talk from ALL you parents and the only one accepted is a team from Baltimore HA! teams from NOVA right now must really be feeling hurt.


Why did you purposely leave out Bethesda Soccer Club? So that’s 2 from Maryland.


I didn't know Bethesda was in Nova


Are you that dumb? Why didn’t you ask if Baltimore was in Nova as well?


Point is idiot that no NOVA club made it to MLS Academy even after all the parents fist pump their chest

Only MD clubs received offers and don't talk to me about Arlington if they had a offer they would have accepted the same way any other girls clubs would have accepted ECNL if given the chance


No that's not the case. Nationwide all ex-DA clubs were offered a spot in MLS. In VA Arlington, VDA and Richmond (obviously Richmond isn't NOVA) all received offers from both MLS and ECNL. All decided, rightly or wrongly, to move to ECNL. In Arlington's case at least it appears that most (although I know it is not all) parents would have preferred MLS and quite possibly the coaching staff as well - but the decision was made by the board. Obviously Arlington took a lot longer to make the decision than Richmond or VDA so they thought harder about the MLS option.
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Post 05/16/2020 09:21     Subject: BA only local club to be accepted to MLSYA

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.soccerwire.com/news/major-league-soccer-reveals-95-initial-member-clubs-for-new-youth-academy-league/

All this talk from ALL you parents and the only one accepted is a team from Baltimore HA! teams from NOVA right now must really be feeling hurt.


Why did you purposely leave out Bethesda Soccer Club? So that’s 2 from Maryland.


I didn't know Bethesda was in Nova


Are you that dumb? Why didn’t you ask if Baltimore was in Nova as well?


Point is idiot that no NOVA club made it to MLS Academy even after all the parents fist pump their chest

Only MD clubs received offers and don't talk to me about Arlington if they had a offer they would have accepted the same way any other girls clubs would have accepted ECNL if given the chance


Got it. You were being sarcastic but the way you wrote your comment, no one knew you were sarcastic or dumb.
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Post 05/16/2020 09:04     Subject: BA only local club to be accepted to MLSYA

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.soccerwire.com/news/major-league-soccer-reveals-95-initial-member-clubs-for-new-youth-academy-league/

All this talk from ALL you parents and the only one accepted is a team from Baltimore HA! teams from NOVA right now must really be feeling hurt.


Why did you purposely leave out Bethesda Soccer Club? So that’s 2 from Maryland.


I didn't know Bethesda was in Nova


Are you that dumb? Why didn’t you ask if Baltimore was in Nova as well?


Point is idiot that no NOVA club made it to MLS Academy even after all the parents fist pump their chest

Only MD clubs received offers and don't talk to me about Arlington if they had a offer they would have accepted the same way any other girls clubs would have accepted ECNL if given the chance
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Post 05/16/2020 08:48     Subject: Re:BA only local club to be accepted to MLSYA

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL will be watered down with 2nd team while the top boys will be in MLS. So much for being a top league and you better hope this GA doesn't pick up momentum otherwise ECNL will be a thing of the past


There is only 3 clubs, 2 in MD and one in DC , in the whole region here doing MLS. Not every top player is looking to go into MLS. Seen lot good talent individual outside current MLS teams.


Agree. There will be talented teams in MLS, ECNL, other leagues as well. Here’s more than 1 “proven pathway” to college. But there were, and will be, plenty of parents that will get sucked into a team b/c it plays the “highest” level. Tell us how that works when there’s a roster of 30 kids. B/c bloated rosters happen all too frequently and your DS may never get more than 50% PT in a game, or worse, doesn’t dress for multiple games.


BaltArmour 16/17s had a roster of over 30 kids?!?! If a kid isn’t playing how are they getting into a college program? And more importantly how is a kid developing of they’re not playing? Sounds really fun...

http://balt.ussoccerda.com/sam/teams/index.php?team=12071920


That's two teams. The U17 team + maybe one or two of the best U16 players play (or played) in the DA league. The rest of the U16s would have played in the DA-only league under the auspices of the EDP. Not yet clear how the MLS league will handle U16/U17 age group.


It's one team, a combined U16/U17 team. That is was the age group for DA, a combined 16&17 age group. 30+ kids on the roster is 30 kids+, several kids didn't play much at all, still paid their $3k++. The U16 SAC Prem Blue team was going to play in South Atlantic EDP Conferences this spring - was mostly U16s ('04s) that didn't make DA U16/U17 team; who pushed some SAC Prem Blue down to lower teams or to another club. There was no "DA only" league other than the U12 EDP "Developmental League."

MLS will have U13, U14, U15, U16, U17 and U18/19.


All the non-MLS DA clubs, inlcuding Baltimore played their U16 teams in EDP in a special DA league called the Atlantic Development League. You can see the league schedule and standings here (you have to scroll down to get the table for this area): https://www.edpsoccer.com/adl-schedules. FWIW SAC/BA pre-academy finished last with thye following record:
SAC/BA PRE-ACADEMY 10 1 9 0 6 26 -20 3 0.3

I don't know what, if anything, DC United may have done with their U16 group though.


I stand corrected. Thought only U12s were in a different "DA only" league. DCUnited only has academy teams, there is no 2nd, 3rd, etc. team. I know a fair amount of the families/kids of that Armour preacademy U16 team. Many played HS and did not participate in full club activities in the fall and several were on the U16/U17 DA roster. So maybe that explains the poor results?


Yes - that sounds possible. If so, situation might have evened up in the spring if and when other (e.g. VA) teams lost players to HS soccer. Certainly Baltimore usually managed to put out a good team at most age groups.

wrt DC United, they may still have done something with their U16 players other than have them sit on the bench. It's a problem all the DA clubs had - there was not an official DA U16 competition, but they needed those kids to stay part of the program as they would likely form the core of the team the following year. Surely DC United and the other MLS teams must have found a way to get them game time? I have no idea what they did do they, if they did.


My understanding is that those players, U16/U17, DCUnited, didn’t not play in another league. They weren’t allowed by DA rules, maybe they set up some friendlies, but no organized league.


Certainly I haven't been able to find a league in which they played so you may well be correct that they didn't. It wasn't because of DA rules though, because - per above - all the non-MLS DA U16 teams played in a DA U16 league organized by EDP - but totally separate league from the rest of EDP - just for the DA U16 teams.


It was always a difficult transition during those two U16 and U17 years - trying to combine two full teams and keep everyone happy and developing. For Armour it wasn't a "true" U16 DA team, ten of the 16s made the U16/U17 roster last year, DCUnited had fifteen 16s on its U16/U17 roster. I didn't think Arlington had a DA program after U15. I had heard prior to DA ending that it was going to end the U13 program (like it did U12 this year) and make a U16 group to address the issue.
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All this talk from ALL you parents and the only one accepted is a team from Baltimore HA! teams from NOVA right now must really be feeling hurt.


Why did you purposely leave out Bethesda Soccer Club? So that’s 2 from Maryland.


I didn't know Bethesda was in Nova


Are you that dumb? Why didn’t you ask if Baltimore was in Nova as well?