Anonymous
05/14/2020 12:49
Subject: Medical personnel wearing scrubs outside of work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I.... cannot fathom having this level of anxiety about "germs" (which most non anxious, mentally stable people do not fear).
Just because someone is wearing jeans or khackis, you have no idea where they have been.
Some of you all really need to talk to your doctor. The more you let your mental health fester like this, the worse it's going to get. This is the world we live in - there are germs everywhere, all the time, and it's not necessarily a bad thing.
Yes, I feel the same way when I see someone wearing vinyl gloves to make my food, handle cash and wipe their noses. My psychiatrist told me not to be anxious about it, so.....
So... how's it working out for you? Are you able to move on, or does it fester in your head?
I get that the anxiety is due to a lack of feeling in control. What are you doing to remedy that and accept that the world/life is not able to be controlled?
I understand what can be controlled, and passing germs along to others is one of them -- but only if people are smart enough to do it. Wearing gloves to handle food while also wiping your nose and counting cash with them on does not stop the spread of germs. I think we can agree it's smart to either wash hands before making food for the public OR wear a dedicated pair of gloves. It's also smart not to wear scrubs both inside and outside of a medical setting.
What does fester in my mind is how stupid most people are. I admit that really bothers me.
IT's always bothered me and seems unhygienic, otherwise why bother with scrubs in the first place may as well just wear regular clothes! I think it is to give the impression of professionalism and hygine when in reality if can wear them out it is not the case!
It's also how, in the hospital, you tell the difference between CNAs, nurses, housekeeping, etc. They all wear different colors of scrubs, at least in the hospital I am most familiar with.
Anonymous
05/14/2020 12:48
Subject: Re:Medical personnel wearing scrubs outside of work
I live near a hospital and people working at the hospital often go to work wearing their scrubs. Also, they often have personal errands to run on lunch breaks and continue to wear the scrubs when they do that (including grabbing lunch). As others have pointed out, many people who work there do NOT wear scrubs at work. And with hospital personnel changing clothes when they arrive home, are you saying they should change out of scrubs into street clothes and then out of the street clothes when they get home? What about first responders? Should EMTs not wear their uniform in public? Police officers?
OP is ridiculous IMO.
OP is ridiculous IMO.
Anonymous
05/14/2020 12:43
Subject: Medical personnel wearing scrubs outside of work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I.... cannot fathom having this level of anxiety about "germs" (which most non anxious, mentally stable people do not fear).
Just because someone is wearing jeans or khackis, you have no idea where they have been.
Some of you all really need to talk to your doctor. The more you let your mental health fester like this, the worse it's going to get. This is the world we live in - there are germs everywhere, all the time, and it's not necessarily a bad thing.
Yes, I feel the same way when I see someone wearing vinyl gloves to make my food, handle cash and wipe their noses. My psychiatrist told me not to be anxious about it, so.....
So... how's it working out for you? Are you able to move on, or does it fester in your head?
I get that the anxiety is due to a lack of feeling in control. What are you doing to remedy that and accept that the world/life is not able to be controlled?
I understand what can be controlled, and passing germs along to others is one of them -- but only if people are smart enough to do it. Wearing gloves to handle food while also wiping your nose and counting cash with them on does not stop the spread of germs. I think we can agree it's smart to either wash hands before making food for the public OR wear a dedicated pair of gloves. It's also smart not to wear scrubs both inside and outside of a medical setting.
What does fester in my mind is how stupid most people are. I admit that really bothers me.
See, this is where we differ. Is someone wiping their nose gross? Absolutely. But what REALLY is more bothersome, is what you DON'T know and DON'T see. It's the "seeing" that makes you get grossed out, not the actual viable risk of catching something. Because I assure you, there are far far far worse things going on behind the scenes. It's completely a mental thing.
And while it bothers you, the only think you can control is yourself. Don't go out to eat, ever. Because there's tons of highly gross stuff going on behind the scenes. Or find better ways to manage your anxiety. You just cannot, will never, ever be able to control the world around you.
Anonymous
05/14/2020 12:40
Subject: Medical personnel wearing scrubs outside of work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I.... cannot fathom having this level of anxiety about "germs" (which most non anxious, mentally stable people do not fear).
Just because someone is wearing jeans or khackis, you have no idea where they have been.
Some of you all really need to talk to your doctor. The more you let your mental health fester like this, the worse it's going to get. This is the world we live in - there are germs everywhere, all the time, and it's not necessarily a bad thing.
Yes, I feel the same way when I see someone wearing vinyl gloves to make my food, handle cash and wipe their noses. My psychiatrist told me not to be anxious about it, so.....
So... how's it working out for you? Are you able to move on, or does it fester in your head?
I get that the anxiety is due to a lack of feeling in control. What are you doing to remedy that and accept that the world/life is not able to be controlled?
I understand what can be controlled, and passing germs along to others is one of them -- but only if people are smart enough to do it. Wearing gloves to handle food while also wiping your nose and counting cash with them on does not stop the spread of germs. I think we can agree it's smart to either wash hands before making food for the public OR wear a dedicated pair of gloves. It's also smart not to wear scrubs both inside and outside of a medical setting.
What does fester in my mind is how stupid most people are. I admit that really bothers me.
IT's always bothered me and seems unhygienic, otherwise why bother with scrubs in the first place may as well just wear regular clothes! I think it is to give the impression of professionalism and hygine when in reality if can wear them out it is not the case!
Anonymous
05/14/2020 12:38
Subject: Medical personnel wearing scrubs outside of work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I.... cannot fathom having this level of anxiety about "germs" (which most non anxious, mentally stable people do not fear).
Just because someone is wearing jeans or khackis, you have no idea where they have been.
Some of you all really need to talk to your doctor. The more you let your mental health fester like this, the worse it's going to get. This is the world we live in - there are germs everywhere, all the time, and it's not necessarily a bad thing.
Yes, I feel the same way when I see someone wearing vinyl gloves to make my food, handle cash and wipe their noses. My psychiatrist told me not to be anxious about it, so.....
So... how's it working out for you? Are you able to move on, or does it fester in your head?
I get that the anxiety is due to a lack of feeling in control. What are you doing to remedy that and accept that the world/life is not able to be controlled?
I understand what can be controlled, and passing germs along to others is one of them -- but only if people are smart enough to do it. Wearing gloves to handle food while also wiping your nose and counting cash with them on does not stop the spread of germs. I think we can agree it's smart to either wash hands before making food for the public OR wear a dedicated pair of gloves. It's also smart not to wear scrubs both inside and outside of a medical setting.
What does fester in my mind is how stupid most people are. I admit that really bothers me.
Anonymous
05/14/2020 12:38
Subject: Medical personnel wearing scrubs outside of work
If they wear just comfortable clothes to and from work, how is that any different than scrubs? I don't assume they are wearing the same scrubs they worked in if I see them out in public.
You just don't know then that they work in a hospital.
You just don't know then that they work in a hospital.
Anonymous
05/14/2020 12:35
Subject: Re:Medical personnel wearing scrubs outside of work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People we are talking about contagion of Covid19 not some yeast infection. There are of course billions and billions of germs...what differentiates each is the infectivity and morbidity of each. Ebola’s mortality rate is high in the 80-90% so many people who contracts it usually die thus the virus dies with them. On the other hand, influenza virus mortality rate is much lower in the teens so virus can propagate and each year comes back. Covid19 being a fairly new virus is both deadly and contagious...the perfect virus for pandemics
Except Covid 19 is actually not that contagious, as we have learned. Virtually all the cases are from people in prolonged close contact with a breathing human, in low circulation places. Not from stuff, or not a brief encounter/passing.
“Not that contagious”. Tell that to the 4 million people infected and the close to 300,000 deaths. Tell that to the International community that now have borders shut down so no travelers allowed in. Tell that to the business owners who were required to close and are now probably going to be bankrupt. Tell that to the children Zooming class from home. I can go on and on. Oh right, Covid19 is NOT that contagious
You missed the point.
Are you rolling around in someone else's scrubs, like a dog snuggles and owner's shirt? If so, stop that. It's rude.
But you're not going to catch covid this way. I understand you're grossed out by "germs" but this is a mental issue, not a risk issue. I'm not sure why you think everyone else is so clean - you cannot identify sickness based on someone's clothing. And even if you could, you being in the same room with someone wearing scrubs is not a risk for covid. For the love of god, gather some perspective and find healthy productive ways to deal with your unbelievable anxiety.
Anonymous
05/14/2020 12:35
Subject: Medical personnel wearing scrubs outside of work
You guys realize the virus isn't jumping off of scrubs onto you, right? And that it's primarily a respiratory virus, not blood-borne?
Anonymous
05/14/2020 12:34
Subject: Medical personnel wearing scrubs outside of work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If they are going in to work, fine. Leaving work, not so much.
This. I'm a nurse. Most of us wear street clothes in and change into scrubs at work. I do know some people who wear personal scrubs into work and then change into hospital provided scrubs there. So I suppose you could be seeing those people.
Yes, DH who is an ER doc does this. He has scrubs from home and then changes into hospital scrubs. I’ve told him not to shop afterwards because of people like the OP who will make assumptions.
Who cares if they make assumptions? That’s their problem. I will continue to report to work in my scrubs, don my PPE when treating patients, and stop at the store on my way home in my scrubs.
PP - you are absolutely right. He’s out there saving lives, and all these people can think about is that he’s spreading germs. This leads me to other concerns about discrimination against health care workers and their families.
Are you insane? Scrubs = germs. Why not just buy a leisure suit instead of flaunting your "right" to wear scrubs. Maybe we should all wear scrubs to make the "stigman" and "scrubs shaming" go away?
Just don't wear scrubs out on the street, you fool.
Just not wearing scrubs outside would be a lot easier.
Actually let's take this a step further and not let the patients out of the hospital who carry these germs and walk among us, spewing their germs everywhere. I mean forget scrubs, it's the patients we should ban from being in public! You all realize there are tons more germs to be freaked out about than COVID and some patients may carry them for life. Ban anyone colonized with candida auris from grocery stores!
Anonymous
05/14/2020 12:33
Subject: Re:Medical personnel wearing scrubs outside of work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People we are talking about contagion of Covid19 not some yeast infection. There are of course billions and billions of germs...what differentiates each is the infectivity and morbidity of each. Ebola’s mortality rate is high in the 80-90% so many people who contracts it usually die thus the virus dies with them. On the other hand, influenza virus mortality rate is much lower in the teens so virus can propagate and each year comes back. Covid19 being a fairly new virus is both deadly and contagious...the perfect virus for pandemics
Except Covid 19 is actually not that contagious, as we have learned. Virtually all the cases are from people in prolonged close contact with a breathing human, in low circulation places. Not from stuff, or not a brief encounter/passing.
Exactly, if you want to go on about healthcare workers wearing scrubs during covid, it's one of the diseases you should be less worried about. Environmental transmission is six percent of covid cases per research. People not wearing masks are the major concern with covid. If you want to go on about healthcare workers wearing scrubs he after caring for a candida auris patient, well that's more interesting as touch is the way that beast is transmitted.
Uh, no. they just released a study that said you can catch it just by talking with someone.
Anonymous
05/14/2020 12:32
Subject: Re:Medical personnel wearing scrubs outside of work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People we are talking about contagion of Covid19 not some yeast infection. There are of course billions and billions of germs...what differentiates each is the infectivity and morbidity of each. Ebola’s mortality rate is high in the 80-90% so many people who contracts it usually die thus the virus dies with them. On the other hand, influenza virus mortality rate is much lower in the teens so virus can propagate and each year comes back. Covid19 being a fairly new virus is both deadly and contagious...the perfect virus for pandemics
Except Covid 19 is actually not that contagious, as we have learned. Virtually all the cases are from people in prolonged close contact with a breathing human, in low circulation places. Not from stuff, or not a brief encounter/passing.
“Not that contagious”. Tell that to the 4 million people infected and the close to 300,000 deaths. Tell that to the International community that now have borders shut down so no travelers allowed in. Tell that to the business owners who were required to close and are now probably going to be bankrupt. Tell that to the children Zooming class from home. I can go on and on. Oh right, Covid19 is NOT that contagious
Not that contagious from contact transmission which would be the concern in a conversation about scrub wearing outside hospitals.
Anonymous
05/14/2020 12:24
Subject: Re:Medical personnel wearing scrubs outside of work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People we are talking about contagion of Covid19 not some yeast infection. There are of course billions and billions of germs...what differentiates each is the infectivity and morbidity of each. Ebola’s mortality rate is high in the 80-90% so many people who contracts it usually die thus the virus dies with them. On the other hand, influenza virus mortality rate is much lower in the teens so virus can propagate and each year comes back. Covid19 being a fairly new virus is both deadly and contagious...the perfect virus for pandemics
Except Covid 19 is actually not that contagious, as we have learned. Virtually all the cases are from people in prolonged close contact with a breathing human, in low circulation places. Not from stuff, or not a brief encounter/passing.
“Not that contagious”. Tell that to the 4 million people infected and the close to 300,000 deaths. Tell that to the International community that now have borders shut down so no travelers allowed in. Tell that to the business owners who were required to close and are now probably going to be bankrupt. Tell that to the children Zooming class from home. I can go on and on. Oh right, Covid19 is NOT that contagious
Anonymous
05/14/2020 12:23
Subject: Medical personnel wearing scrubs outside of work
Anonymous wrote:Completely inappropriate and disgusting even before COVID.
I have always wondered about this pre-covid, seen very often regardless of whether going in or leaving doesn't seem very safe! Also, if at hospital you see so many staff coming in and out in scrubs!
Anonymous
05/14/2020 12:13
Subject: Re:Medical personnel wearing scrubs outside of work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People we are talking about contagion of Covid19 not some yeast infection. There are of course billions and billions of germs...what differentiates each is the infectivity and morbidity of each. Ebola’s mortality rate is high in the 80-90% so many people who contracts it usually die thus the virus dies with them. On the other hand, influenza virus mortality rate is much lower in the teens so virus can propagate and each year comes back. Covid19 being a fairly new virus is both deadly and contagious...the perfect virus for pandemics
Except Covid 19 is actually not that contagious, as we have learned. Virtually all the cases are from people in prolonged close contact with a breathing human, in low circulation places. Not from stuff, or not a brief encounter/passing.
Exactly, if you want to go on about healthcare workers wearing scrubs during covid, it's one of the diseases you should be less worried about. Environmental transmission is six percent of covid cases per research. People not wearing masks are the major concern with covid. If you want to go on about healthcare workers wearing scrubs he after caring for a candida auris patient, well that's more interesting as touch is the way that beast is transmitted.
Anonymous
05/14/2020 12:01
Subject: Re:Medical personnel wearing scrubs outside of work
Anonymous wrote:People we are talking about contagion of Covid19 not some yeast infection. There are of course billions and billions of germs...what differentiates each is the infectivity and morbidity of each. Ebola’s mortality rate is high in the 80-90% so many people who contracts it usually die thus the virus dies with them. On the other hand, influenza virus mortality rate is much lower in the teens so virus can propagate and each year comes back. Covid19 being a fairly new virus is both deadly and contagious...the perfect virus for pandemics
Except Covid 19 is actually not that contagious, as we have learned. Virtually all the cases are from people in prolonged close contact with a breathing human, in low circulation places. Not from stuff, or not a brief encounter/passing.