Anonymous
Post 04/29/2020 13:20     Subject: Nanny Wants to socialize on weekends
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Are you paying her around the clock to essentially be a prisoner in your home?

Are you paying her 24 hours, 7 days a week to essentially work for you nonstop over the next 6-8 weeks?

It is doubtful that you can employ someone and forbid them from seeing a family member or boyfriend for 3 months or more.

If this is unacceptable to her, lay her off, Maryland unemployment is big money now.


We are paying her fairly, generously and in compliance with all laws.
She’s not working or even on call 24x7
She got a check from the government last week and she’s told us that she wants to get a job that pays cash while collecting unemployment. This is what her friends are doing apparently


That's not really your business. You don't sound very empathetic to how incredibly hard it would be to have to quarantine in your employer's home. If you need her, make this situation worth it to her. Otherwise, why wouldn't she want to crash with friends and collect?


As a taxpayer, I find this offensive. Someone getting paid, and also collecting money that is meant for everyone who isn't getting paid??


She got A payment from the government - according to the earlier comment. So she probably got a stimulus check. Wonder why your first thought was to get offended?
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2020 13:15     Subject: Nanny Wants to socialize on weekends
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Anonymous wrote:Can you legally prevent someone from returning to their own home. Wouldn't that be an illegal eviction?


I think tenancy laws are different when the housing is provided as a benefit of employment, but I imagine any covid-related stay on evictions would probably apply to employment-related housing as well, so OP very well may not be able to bar the nanny from he house without significant legal consequences.


OP she’s packing up and excited to leave. This is totally her decision


She’s taking all of her belongings and has agreed to vacate the premises? I would get that in writing if I were you.
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2020 13:13     Subject: Nanny Wants to socialize on weekends
Anonymous wrote:You have done nothing wrong, OP. WTF does she think "shelter in place" means? Not hanging out with your friends. Even if you're really bored and lonely and 20something.

I'm sorry that you have to find new childcare. It might not be as hard as you think. Post on care.com and you'll have dozens of applicants (at least, this was my friend's experience). A lot of people are out of work right now. Screen carefully by phone.


Thanks
We’re in a hot spot and will not bring anyone new into our home
It is what it is but we can’t take that risk unfortunately
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2020 13:12     Subject: Nanny Wants to socialize on weekends
shes not allowed to leave, or dock her pay, its the law
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2020 13:10     Subject: Nanny Wants to socialize on weekends
Anonymous wrote:Op has updated that she had packed her things and left to go live with her friends.

Op - are you okay without childcare?


Hi she’s working until the end of the day tomorrow
We spoke to her yesterday and she’s frustrated like the rest of us
We need to just figure out the childcare and home schooling versus both of us still working full time
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2020 13:10     Subject: Nanny Wants to socialize on weekends
You have done nothing wrong, OP. WTF does she think "shelter in place" means? Not hanging out with your friends. Even if you're really bored and lonely and 20something.

I'm sorry that you have to find new childcare. It might not be as hard as you think. Post on care.com and you'll have dozens of applicants (at least, this was my friend's experience). A lot of people are out of work right now. Screen carefully by phone.
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2020 13:07     Subject: Nanny Wants to socialize on weekends
Op has updated that she had packed her things and left to go live with her friends.

Op - are you okay without childcare?
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2020 13:05     Subject: Nanny Wants to socialize on weekends
She, obviously, wants to get fired and collect the insanely generous unemployment.
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2020 13:03     Subject: Nanny Wants to socialize on weekends
Anonymous wrote:I don’t know which state you are in op, but if there is a stay at home order, and your nanny lives in your home, she’d be violating the stay at home order by visiting her friends. Also, are you not allowing her to leave the house at all - even for walks on her own? I also would not be comfortable with a live in nanny who would be spending weekends somewhere else during the pandemic.

I guess you have updated that she chose to leave your employment. So guess, issue solved then, but now you need to figure out new childcare.


We’re in a hot spot with a mandated Shelter in place order for at least two more weeks.
People around us including people we know have died in the last few weeks

I mentioned above that she has separate living quarters, she goes running every morning, she has free access to our car and goes out for a drive most evenings.
She wants to socialize with her friends, go stay in a shared apartment with folks she knows who have room mates she doesn’t know.
She believes this is social distancing
We disagree on that definition
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2020 12:54     Subject: Nanny Wants to socialize on weekends
I don’t know which state you are in op, but if there is a stay at home order, and your nanny lives in your home, she’d be violating the stay at home order by visiting her friends. Also, are you not allowing her to leave the house at all - even for walks on her own? I also would not be comfortable with a live in nanny who would be spending weekends somewhere else during the pandemic.

I guess you have updated that she chose to leave your employment. So guess, issue solved then, but now you need to figure out new childcare.
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2020 12:50     Subject: Nanny Wants to socialize on weekends
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Can you legally prevent someone from returning to their own home. Wouldn't that be an illegal eviction?


I think tenancy laws are different when the housing is provided as a benefit of employment, but I imagine any covid-related stay on evictions would probably apply to employment-related housing as well, so OP very well may not be able to bar the nanny from he house without significant legal consequences.


OP she’s packing up and excited to leave. This is totally her decision


Not completely. You had told her that if she leaves she can not return so her options are either to never leave the house or to leave and not return. She is choosing option 2 but her options were very limited.



She leaves twice a day
she goes running in the mornings and she goes for a drive in the evenings


And how many discussions/guilt trips did you try to lay on her about her leaving the property to run? I think you are both better off just parting ways.


Op is looking for an indentured servant who will do as told. The nanny didn't cut it - so out on the street she goes. Op's "safety" above ALL else.
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2020 12:48     Subject: Nanny Wants to socialize on weekends
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can you legally prevent someone from returning to their own home. Wouldn't that be an illegal eviction?


I think tenancy laws are different when the housing is provided as a benefit of employment, but I imagine any covid-related stay on evictions would probably apply to employment-related housing as well, so OP very well may not be able to bar the nanny from he house without significant legal consequences.


Poor Op. She just can not win!


OP - she’s happy to leave though. I don’t see this changing unfortunately


Is she quitting? Did you fire her? Is she taking all of her things with her or just packing an overnight suitcase?

You have basically threatened to terminate her employment and evict her onto the street if she dares to visit her friend. I dunno. That doesn't sound right to me. Not real familiar with nanny laws though, so maybe you can get away with it. Hard to say.
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2020 12:46     Subject: Nanny Wants to socialize on weekends
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can you legally prevent someone from returning to their own home. Wouldn't that be an illegal eviction?


I think tenancy laws are different when the housing is provided as a benefit of employment, but I imagine any covid-related stay on evictions would probably apply to employment-related housing as well, so OP very well may not be able to bar the nanny from he house without significant legal consequences.


OP she’s packing up and excited to leave. This is totally her decision


Not completely. You had told her that if she leaves she can not return so her options are either to never leave the house or to leave and not return. She is choosing option 2 but her options were very limited.



She leaves twice a day
she goes running in the mornings and she goes for a drive in the evenings


And how many discussions/guilt trips did you try to lay on her about her leaving the property to run? I think you are both better off just parting ways.
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2020 12:42     Subject: Nanny Wants to socialize on weekends
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can you legally prevent someone from returning to their own home. Wouldn't that be an illegal eviction?


I think tenancy laws are different when the housing is provided as a benefit of employment, but I imagine any covid-related stay on evictions would probably apply to employment-related housing as well, so OP very well may not be able to bar the nanny from he house without significant legal consequences.


OP she’s packing up and excited to leave. This is totally her decision


Not completely. You had told her that if she leaves she can not return so her options are either to never leave the house or to leave and not return. She is choosing option 2 but her options were very limited.



She leaves twice a day
she goes running in the mornings and she goes for a drive in the evenings



Wow. My dog goes out more often than that. You are a real piece of work, Op. Your poor nanny .[/quot

Lucky dog...
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2020 12:41     Subject: Nanny Wants to socialize on weekends
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can you legally prevent someone from returning to their own home. Wouldn't that be an illegal eviction?


I think tenancy laws are different when the housing is provided as a benefit of employment, but I imagine any covid-related stay on evictions would probably apply to employment-related housing as well, so OP very well may not be able to bar the nanny from he house without significant legal consequences.


OP she’s packing up and excited to leave. This is totally her decision


Not completely. You had told her that if she leaves she can not return so her options are either to never leave the house or to leave and not return. She is choosing option 2 but her options were very limited.



She leaves twice a day
she goes running in the mornings and she goes for a drive in the evenings


Wow. My dog goes out more often than that. You are a real piece of work, Op. Your poor nanny .