Anonymous wrote:There should be zero assistance to states that re-open and have skyrocketing rates of covid-19. No respirators should be sent. No Federal aid. Nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:there's no magic pot of money for perpetual government assistance. High unemployment and prolonged lockdowns will cause civil unrest. You don't care about job losses because you can afford to hunker down in your comfortable house with your adequate savings while millions suffer.

Mortality rate less than 2%. We have ramped up our medical preparedness, and there are empty beds and unused ventilators even in "hotspots". Drug overdoses, suicide, influenza, heart disease, cancer kill more people annually. Crazy anti-vaxxers will never immunize. We need herd immunity to squelch the virus, not hiding in our homes.

The WHO is in China's pocket, the director is corrupt. If they are squealing about funding, let China fund them. China pays about 10% of what we pay the WHO, and they can afford more.

Since you had to make it about Trump, I'll flip the script. This plan to control everyone's movements, make people dependent on government payouts, and destroy civil liberties is a leftist wet dream. Don't pretend you're not enjoying this.

Totally agree with this.
And, I'll add...... there is a rise in suicides during financial crises. https://www.forbes.com/sites/melaniehaiken/2014/06/12/more-than-10000-suicides-tied-to-economic-crisis-study-says/#2e0097b77ae2
People want to be productive. Being forced to remain at home causes depression for many. And, there is also the concern for domestic abuse and child abuse.
I can't imagine what it's like for some of these people who are confined to their homes 24/7 with their abusers. And, the financial stress isn't going to make the abuser's behavior any better.

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Anonymous wrote:There should be zero assistance to states that re-open and have skyrocketing rates of covid-19. No respirators should be sent. No Federal aid. Nothing.

Right. Punish all the innocent citizens who had no say in the matter, including the elderly and children. Collective punishment. Nice.

Well then stay home! Which is it?

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Anonymous wrote:There should be zero assistance to states that re-open and have skyrocketing rates of covid-19. No respirators should be sent. No Federal aid. Nothing.

Right. Punish all the innocent citizens who had no say in the matter, including the elderly and children. Collective punishment. Nice.

Anonymous wrote:There should be zero assistance to states that re-open and have skyrocketing rates of covid-19. No respirators should be sent. No Federal aid. Nothing.

Anonymous wrote:there's no magic pot of money for perpetual government assistance. High unemployment and prolonged lockdowns will cause civil unrest. You don't care about job losses because you can afford to hunker down in your comfortable house with your adequate savings while millions suffer.

Mortality rate less than 2%. We have ramped up our medical preparedness, and there are empty beds and unused ventilators even in "hotspots". Drug overdoses, suicide, influenza, heart disease, cancer kill more people annually. Crazy anti-vaxxers will never immunize. We need herd immunity to squelch the virus, not hiding in our homes.

The WHO is in China's pocket, the director is corrupt. If they are squealing about funding, let China fund them. China pays about 10% of what we pay the WHO, and they can afford more.

Since you had to make it about Trump, I'll flip the script. This plan to control everyone's movements, make people dependent on government payouts, and destroy civil liberties is a leftist wet dream. Don't pretend you're not enjoying this.

Anonymous wrote:Here is the thing people that want to open up don't seem to be taking into consideration.

15.2% of Americans are over the age of 65
10.5% of have diabetes.
6.7% have heart disease
7% have autoimmune disease
7.7% of adults have asthma (8.4% of children, too)

Even accounting for overlap between conditions, that's a large % of our community that is vulnerable. This doesn't even take into account the number of people that live with the vulnerable, or work with them, which would significantly increase those numbers. With, at a minimum, something like 30% of the community quarantined, how do you get back to business as usual?

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty certain that at least some people who aren’t part of the “ruling” class would benefit if some businesses opened up if it was deemed safe by reasonable governors of their respective states.

They will benefit right up to the point that they are infected with coronavirus.

And 99% plus will survive it and go on to see another day.

Exactly. I mean just look at VA’s number of deaths. For a state this big, we have 231 deaths. Most of those deaths are coming from people over 70 years old with other complications. I mean, yeah I understand social distancing and whatnot, but is all of this worth it for such a low number of people?

For all the people who give the stats on car accidents, the flu, a shooting, etc as being risks that are just as deadly....it’s hard to argue against them at this point.

I’m game for doing this for another month. But if the numbers remain low, people are going to be pissed off if they’re losing their livelihoods just because 300 people died.

Maybe give this a bit more thought? Social distancing has kept death numbers low so you want to end social distancing? That's like building a levee to prevent floods and then dismantling it because you haven't had a flood.

We have to take the necessary steps to prevent a resurgence before we can re-open safely. Of course, if you want to open unsafely, please go first.

Pp, you couldn’t make better sense. I think people also forget that at any time, any one of us might need to go to the ER for something unrelated to the virus. I’m already hearing stories about how those people haven’t been giving priority and are dying from things that could’ve been treated. Everything is cyclical. We must all do our part.