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Anonymous wrote:I am listening to a radio interview about this now. A doctor in NY was saying that he has given it to 375+ patients in New York and and they have all recovered.

Dear God.

Are we on the verge of a breakthrough?

Short answer: no. Long answer: also no.

and you know this based on what?

DP.

Most people recover, so this drug may or may not have made a difference.

where is your study showing it makes no difference?

where is your study showing it doesn’t make things worse?

i am not waiting for studies. at this point plentiful “anecdata” is good enough.

do you understand that we don’t actually know if it works until we do chemical trial?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm listening to two doctors now. They said that for people starting down a bad path (those with co-morbidities for instance) it's being prescribed and ALL of their patients have gotten better within max two days.

For the lupus patient? Yes, it sucks that your drug of choice is now needed during a pandemic for other patients. But you don't get the right to live while they die.

My niece is hoarding the drug for her lupus patients (she's a pharmacist) and if she loses her license, she will get no pity from me. That's not her job.

It's not called a "drug of choice" when it's not a controlled substance.

And frankly: why the hell wouldn't the lupus patient already on the med get "the right to live while they die"?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm listening to two doctors now. They said that for people starting down a bad path (those with co-morbidities for instance) it's being prescribed and ALL of their patients have gotten better within max two days.

For the lupus patient? Yes, it sucks that your drug of choice is now needed during a pandemic for other patients. But you don't get the right to live while they die.

My niece is hoarding the drug for her lupus patients (she's a pharmacist) and if she loses her license, she will get no pity from me. That's not her job.

Praise God.

Seriously. This could turn the corner for us.

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Anonymous wrote:I am listening to a radio interview about this now. A doctor in NY was saying that he has given it to 375+ patients in New York and and they have all recovered.

Dear God.

Are we on the verge of a breakthrough?

No lie, I have been praying the following prayer:

Bless the minds and mechanisms of all scientists, practitioners, and authorities working together for the greater good of humanity on a cure. Allow scientific breakthrough to be released in the universe that will provide rapid solutions and help save lives. Support a spirit of collaboration and trust, with goodwill and accuracy in the work, comprehensiveness in the approach, and supportive resources to get the work done. Where there is evil, corruption, or selfishness blocking progress and a greater good benefitting from the work, remove those impediments, and replace them with strong, sound, wise leadership that can move things in the right direction.

I pray this prayer every day. I pray that doctors don’t burnout, I pray that cures are quickly discovered, that resources are plentiful and there is enough, without lack.

When all I can do is hope, it helps *me* to try to do it in a constructive way. I hope the universe is listening.

You and the previous poster both sound like lunatics. No wonder we are in the situation we're in.

They do sound like lunatics. And enraged that anyone dare question the words of the god-emperor.

OP has started more than one thread on this topic, with the same super-aggressive tone when challenged.

OP here. Get over yourself please. I have posted only once in addition to the original post. YOU, on the other hand, sound toxic.

Anonymous wrote:I'm listening to two doctors now. They said that for people starting down a bad path (those with co-morbidities for instance) it's being prescribed and ALL of their patients have gotten better within max two days.

For the lupus patient? Yes, it sucks that your drug of choice is now needed during a pandemic for other patients. But you don't get the right to live while they die.

My niece is hoarding the drug for her lupus patients (she's a pharmacist) and if she loses her license, she will get no pity from me. That's not her job.

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Anonymous wrote:Risk of side effect, plus there isn't a lot of it to begin with and patients with other conditions, proven to be helped by the medication, need it.

Given the unusual circumstances evolving daily, I strongly believe that patients diagnosed as positive with COVID-19 should have the option to take this, and waive any risk or liability. It’s choosing a possible cure vs tossing a coin that you will get better on your own, and end up on a DNR ventilator, assuming you would get one. Let patients opt in, just like they are willing to opt in for clinical trials. Good grief.

OP here and I totally agree. WHY NOT? Google the story of Rio Giandinieri, a 52-year-old Florida man, who was at death's door from CV literally last Friday. Today he is almost well and looking forward to being discharged from the hospital. His doctor didn't want to give it to him at first because it "isn't proven," "no studies for this," blah blah blah all the usual legal medical lines.

He begged to try it at his own risk and it worked.

So he says. I don't believe him unless his Dr.s come forward or he releases his medical records.

OK, got it. So, when you come down with this and are hospitalized and in desperate need of a ventilator (not that I'm wishing this on you, of course), we'll file you under the category of "I don't believe it."

Anonymous wrote:I'm listening to two doctors now. They said that for people starting down a bad path (those with co-morbidities for instance) it's being prescribed and ALL of their patients have gotten better within max two days.

For the lupus patient? Yes, it sucks that your drug of choice is now needed during a pandemic for other patients. But you don't get the right to live while they die.

My niece is hoarding the drug for her lupus patients (she's a pharmacist) and if she loses her license, she will get no pity from me. That's not her job.

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Anonymous wrote:I am listening to a radio interview about this now. A doctor in NY was saying that he has given it to 375+ patients in New York and and they have all recovered.

Dear God.

Are we on the verge of a breakthrough?

No lie, I have been praying the following prayer:

Bless the minds and mechanisms of all scientists, practitioners, and authorities working together for the greater good of humanity on a cure. Allow scientific breakthrough to be released in the universe that will provide rapid solutions and help save lives. Support a spirit of collaboration and trust, with goodwill and accuracy in the work, comprehensiveness in the approach, and supportive resources to get the work done. Where there is evil, corruption, or selfishness blocking progress and a greater good benefitting from the work, remove those impediments, and replace them with strong, sound, wise leadership that can move things in the right direction.

I pray this prayer every day. I pray that doctors don’t burnout, I pray that cures are quickly discovered, that resources are plentiful and there is enough, without lack.

When all I can do is hope, it helps *me* to try to do it in a constructive way. I hope the universe is listening.

You and the previous poster both sound like lunatics. No wonder we are in the situation we're in.

They do sound like lunatics. And enraged that anyone dare question the words of the god-emperor.

OP has started more than one thread on this topic, with the same super-aggressive tone when challenged.

Anonymous wrote:I'm listening to two doctors now. They said that for people starting down a bad path (those with co-morbidities for instance) it's being prescribed and ALL of their patients have gotten better within max two days.

For the lupus patient? Yes, it sucks that your drug of choice is now needed during a pandemic for other patients. But you don't get the right to live while they die.

My niece is hoarding the drug for her lupus patients (she's a pharmacist) and if she loses her license, she will get no pity from me. That's not her job.

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Anonymous wrote:On a related note: Please stop trying to get an Rx for this to take "just in case." I have lupus and had to scramble all weekend to get another month's supply. After eight attempts, I found a pharmacy that was refusing to fill prescriptions for anyone who hadn't already been on it before last week. The pharmacist told me that a dentist had attempted to prescribe it for all of his friends and family. Lupus patients CANNOT suddenly discontinue their meds.

That pharmacist will lose his/her license.

Would they? If a dr. prescribes it, don't they just fill the script?

Anonymous wrote:I'm all for them using it, but unfortunately, like everything right now, there's not enough to go around. And that sucks for those of us with autoimmune disorders who now can't get our prescriptions filled, like me. So now I'm worried about weathering a flare-up while having the coronavirus.

Apparently, doctors are now ordering it for their friends and families and asking for it in larger quantities than anyone would need to fight Covid, which is something like 12 pills tops. The pharmacist ranted about this for about a half an hour this morning, and told me good luck getting it.

It's the new hand sanitizer.

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Anonymous wrote:I am listening to a radio interview about this now. A doctor in NY was saying that he has given it to 375+ patients in New York and and they have all recovered.

Dear God.

Are we on the verge of a breakthrough?

Short answer: no. Long answer: also no.

and you know this based on what?

DP.

Most people recover, so this drug may or may not have made a difference.

where is your study showing it makes no difference?

where is your study showing it doesn’t make things worse?

i am not waiting for studies. at this point plentiful “anecdata” is good enough.

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Anonymous wrote:I am listening to a radio interview about this now. A doctor in NY was saying that he has given it to 375+ patients in New York and and they have all recovered.

Dear God.

Are we on the verge of a breakthrough?

No lie, I have been praying the following prayer:

Bless the minds and mechanisms of all scientists, practitioners, and authorities working together for the greater good of humanity on a cure. Allow scientific breakthrough to be released in the universe that will provide rapid solutions and help save lives. Support a spirit of collaboration and trust, with goodwill and accuracy in the work, comprehensiveness in the approach, and supportive resources to get the work done. Where there is evil, corruption, or selfishness blocking progress and a greater good benefitting from the work, remove those impediments, and replace them with strong, sound, wise leadership that can move things in the right direction.

I pray this prayer every day. I pray that doctors don’t burnout, I pray that cures are quickly discovered, that resources are plentiful and there is enough, without lack.

When all I can do is hope, it helps *me* to try to do it in a constructive way. I hope the universe is listening.

You and the previous poster both sound like lunatics. No wonder we are in the situation we're in.