Anonymous
Post 01/26/2020 11:20     Subject: Re:Where did your B student go to college?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Speaking of CTCL schools, Lynchburg has a beautiful campus and has recently constructed some new buildings. They seem to be gaining momentum with strong merit awards and pathway programs for their DPT and PA grad programs.


And a 56 percent graduation rate. No thanks.


Which is above the national average for private colleges and universities. CTCL schools generally graduate above national average.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2020 11:17     Subject: Where did your B student go to college?
Anonymous wrote:A better question is where the D student went to college.

In my family, the C student did a year of community college and then transferred to UMD. He needed a year at home to mature a little and ended up graduating with honors (and a great job offer).
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2020 11:15     Subject: Where did your B student go to college?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A lot of this depends on the high school and course load.

In general, however, kids coming from Catholic high schools will do better than you expect when they apply to Catholic colleges.

And boys will do better than you expect when they apply to liberal arts colleges, since most of them have way more female applicants.

I would definitely take exam prep and I would have him try both the SAT and the ACT, to see if he does much better in one. My ADD son got a 30 on the ACT and only about 1,000 on the SAT so yes, there can be a huge difference.

Some schools to consider:
Catholic (these might be more reaches): Catholic U, Fordham, College of the Holy Cross
Good financial aid (some of these are reaches): Washington and Lee, Union, Franklin & Marshall, Connecticut,
Other LACs: Skidmore, Gettysburg, University of the South, College of Wooster, St Olaf
Other big schools that are probably less reachy: Towson, George Mason, Florida State, Indiana Univ, Univ of Arizona


All reaches for a B student

W&L: 20% acceptance/1490 SAT 75th%/83% top 10%
Union: 39%/1430 SAT/61%
F&M: need based aid only
Gettysburg: 45%/1420 SAT/62%
Skidmore





Remember that those figures are for all applicants. Male applicants generally have an easier admissions at liberal arts colleges.

I did write that they’re reached but they may be worth a shot. The poster said she’s a single mom and a teacher. There may be good financial aid there for her.

To be very fair, my B son got into a school that is far reachier. It’s hard to gauge an application just based on gpa without knowing course load, activities, talent, etc.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2020 02:45     Subject: Where did your B student go to college?
Anonymous wrote:Can B students get merit aid or financial aid.... we are a family that makes 120-140,000 a year and worry about eligibility for financial aid.



Unlikely unless the student has something spectacular to offer that the school needs OR a 35 or 36 on the ACT in which case some third-tier colleges you've never heard of will call and offer $26K off the sticker price. In order to get merit aid, you will have to lower your expectations and try to aim for schools that need whatever particular talent or interest your child has.

As to financial aid, FAFSA financial aid is unlikely but you should run the Net Price Calculators on college's webpages to see where you fall. And a lot changes from year to year so what is true one year might not be the next year. If you are an URM or first-generation, that will help
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2020 02:32     Subject: Where did your B student go to college?
Anonymous wrote:A lot of this depends on the high school and course load.

In general, however, kids coming from Catholic high schools will do better than you expect when they apply to Catholic colleges.

And boys will do better than you expect when they apply to liberal arts colleges, since most of them have way more female applicants.

I would definitely take exam prep and I would have him try both the SAT and the ACT, to see if he does much better in one. My ADD son got a 30 on the ACT and only about 1,000 on the SAT so yes, there can be a huge difference.

Some schools to consider:
Catholic (these might be more reaches): Catholic U, Fordham, College of the Holy Cross
Good financial aid (some of these are reaches): Washington and Lee, Union, Franklin & Marshall, Connecticut,
Other LACs: Skidmore, Gettysburg, University of the South, College of Wooster, St Olaf
Other big schools that are probably less reachy: Towson, George Mason, Florida State, Indiana Univ, Univ of Arizona



It's very difficult to get into W&L. You need superior stats.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2020 00:36     Subject: Where did your B student go to college?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not to mention that you also come out of the woodwork.

I think you keep missing the point that many of these schools offer very generous merit aid. But I forgot, you are a on instant replay


+1 What an a$$. My daughter has a 35 ACT 3.9 UW GPA and has just been accepted to a CTCL with very generous merit. She had a great visit and we were both impressed by the school. It is one of her top picks. Not everyone wants to, or can afford to, go to the "Top 20" schools. These are all nationally ranked schools by US News. I don't get the ugliness that comes out when these nationally ranked schools are discussed.

The only people you're hurting with your comments are the kids. Why would you put down their choices of where they choose to go to college - whether it's a CTCL school or any other. What is wrong with you people?


I'm not hurting any kids by expressing my view on CTCL schools on DCUM. I'll tell you who is hurting kids though -- expensive CTCL schools with no name recognition and low graduation rates.


Your ignorance is showing.

I too am a parent of a CTCL student. DS attends Denison. It's been a very positive experience and ironically I am concerned about their recent rise in the rankings as I have one more (child) and I'd like to see her have a shot at attending ideally with a decent discount (merit) package.

And to the parent above congrats to you and your daughter on her hard work and continued success.


I wouldn't worry too much. They're currently only 43rd so they have a long way to go before top students will have any interest in going there.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2020 00:04     Subject: Where did your B student go to college?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not to mention that you also come out of the woodwork.

I think you keep missing the point that many of these schools offer very generous merit aid. But I forgot, you are a on instant replay


+1 What an a$$. My daughter has a 35 ACT 3.9 UW GPA and has just been accepted to a CTCL with very generous merit. She had a great visit and we were both impressed by the school. It is one of her top picks. Not everyone wants to, or can afford to, go to the "Top 20" schools. These are all nationally ranked schools by US News. I don't get the ugliness that comes out when these nationally ranked schools are discussed.

The only people you're hurting with your comments are the kids. Why would you put down their choices of where they choose to go to college - whether it's a CTCL school or any other. What is wrong with you people?


I'm not hurting any kids by expressing my view on CTCL schools on DCUM. I'll tell you who is hurting kids though -- expensive CTCL schools with no name recognition and low graduation rates.


Your ignorance is showing.

I too am a parent of a CTCL student. DS attends Denison. It's been a very positive experience and ironically I am concerned about their recent rise in the rankings as I have one more (child) and I'd like to see her have a shot at attending ideally with a decent discount (merit) package.

And to the parent above congrats to you and your daughter on her hard work and continued success.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2020 23:42     Subject: Re:Where did your B student go to college?
Anonymous wrote:Speaking of CTCL schools, Lynchburg has a beautiful campus and has recently constructed some new buildings. They seem to be gaining momentum with strong merit awards and pathway programs for their DPT and PA grad programs.


And a 56 percent graduation rate. No thanks.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2020 23:23     Subject: Where did your B student go to college?
Got twins applying this year. One much stronger. The one with a B (3.3 and 32 ACT/33 superscore) and really good ECs got into a top 40 US news though rejected from top 20/25 ED. In at Mason in state. Waiting on 13 more. Expect a decent shot at BU/NYU/W&M (in state) per naviance but could have 13 rejections as all others are a reach including these three per counselor. Full pay and local topish private. So lottery ticket partially cashed.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2020 21:25     Subject: Re:Where did your B student go to college?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, my daughter went to Union college in Schenectady, NY and loved it. It's in a beautiful setting and has been around since late 1700's. You should check it out.


NP...I was curious about Union, but may be a little too much for a B student. Per CDS 2018-19: 39% acceptance, 1430 SAT (75% percentile) and 46% top 10% of HS class


Just one thing to note is that Union is test optional and so doesn’t require ACT/SAT score. You should visit if you can.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2020 21:12     Subject: Re:Where did your B student go to college?
Speaking of CTCL schools, Lynchburg has a beautiful campus and has recently constructed some new buildings. They seem to be gaining momentum with strong merit awards and pathway programs for their DPT and PA grad programs.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2020 20:55     Subject: Where did your B student go to college?
Anonymous wrote:A lot of this depends on the high school and course load.

In general, however, kids coming from Catholic high schools will do better than you expect when they apply to Catholic colleges.

And boys will do better than you expect when they apply to liberal arts colleges, since most of them have way more female applicants.

I would definitely take exam prep and I would have him try both the SAT and the ACT, to see if he does much better in one. My ADD son got a 30 on the ACT and only about 1,000 on the SAT so yes, there can be a huge difference.

Some schools to consider:
Catholic (these might be more reaches): Catholic U, Fordham, College of the Holy Cross
Good financial aid (some of these are reaches): Washington and Lee, Union, Franklin & Marshall, Connecticut,
Other LACs: Skidmore, Gettysburg, University of the South, College of Wooster, St Olaf
Other big schools that are probably less reachy: Towson, George Mason, Florida State, Indiana Univ, Univ of Arizona


All reaches for a B student

W&L: 20% acceptance/1490 SAT 75th%/83% top 10%
Union: 39%/1430 SAT/61%
F&M: need based aid only
Gettysburg: 45%/1420 SAT/62%
Skidmore



Anonymous
Post 01/25/2020 20:31     Subject: Where did your B student go to college?
A better question is where the D student went to college.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2020 20:00     Subject: Where did your B student go to college?
beloit, dickinson, union college, whitman college - all good
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2020 19:44     Subject: Where did your B student go to college?
One if those success stories came from Juniata