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Anonymous wrote:i think it was because his coach Urban Meyer did not want him back on the team and suggested he try to get drafted by the NFL.

I mean probably, but why?

my husband claimed that Meyer warned the Pats NOT to draft him. says he read it somewhere.

It feels like they all knew they had a ticking time bomb on their hands.

NP. It doesn't say the Pats in particular, but there was such a story about Urban Meyer telling that to an NFL scout: https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/othercolleges/2018/09/20/urban-meyer-told-nfl-team-not-draft-aaron-hernandez-per-report/1367136002/

The Pats have taken chances on behavior problems before. Belichick has a no-nonsense system and some problem players respond well to that (i.e. Randy Moss). If it doesn't work, they get cut. He was a star player with them for 3 years. But I don't think the Pats or anyone else imagined that Hernandez would turn into a serial killer, though. Why should they? Plenty of young men get into trouble with the law, drugs, violent fights, etc. but almost never do they end up murderers.

And the CTE is something of a red herring. Not to say that it didn't affect him and isn't alarming, but Hernandez lived a violent life from a young age, either from abuse or his own actions. There's no way to differentiate the effects of that from the football. And there have been plenty of NFL players with CTE and none of them killed a bunch of people except him. Suicide, yes, murder, no. Too much focus on CTE wrongly absolves him of responsibility for heinous acts.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting article. Seems the lawyer for the fiancé/daughter is trying every angle to get money. Last year a judge ruled they could not file a 20M suit as part of the class action against the NFL for suicides related to CTEs.

https://www.distractify.com/p/aaron-hernandez-daughter-now

Interesting that the lawyer claims the NFL is the reason the daughter isn’t being raised by her father. Let’s just sweep under the rug the whole pesky “life in prison murder conviction”. As if that wasn’t going to prevent him from raising her...

Agreed.

IMO, that AH MUST have had a lot of drug money lying around. The book discusses AH and Ochocinco having switched numbers - AH took #81 only after compensation ($50k) from Ochocinco, and the proceeds were said to have fronted a drug deal involving one of the men mentioned in the Netflix series. (Ochocinco presumably knew nothing about what his payment to AH was used for). There was a lot of money and guns floating around AH, it seemed.

Also, I was under the impression that the NFL may have owned the house that AH and girlfriend lived in? Not sure how I arrived at that, except that the NFL does own some houses. So the girlfriend or daughter got $1/2m of that? Was it equity from the house? I know they bought the house for $1.3m, then sold it for $1m because it needed work. I think the buyer sold it soon after for about $1.3. But anyway, still curious about the assets and monies that were inevitably around....

I don’t think the fiancé/daughter have received any money from the sale of the house. I’m pretty sure that Aaron owned the house, not the NFL. Otherwise the lawsuits by the dead men’s’ estates and the fiancé wouldn’t be necessary.

I’ve googled a bunch and all I can find is that the fiancé filed a lawsuit against the estates of the three men who have sued Aaron’s estate. The lawsuit the fiancé filed was to enforce the homestead exemption for the daughter. In MA the homestead exemption protects up to 500k from creditors. So from what I can find, the fiancé/daughter are not going to get his forfeited money from the NFL, are not going to get money by suing the NFL for his CTE, are still in pending litigation against the Patriots for the CTE, and are in pending litigation for the homestead credit.

A fascinating mess.

I think the Patriots were part of the CTE lawsuit filed against the NFL, not 2 separate cases, so the whole thing has been thrown out. The Massachusetts Supreme Court also reinstated his murder conviction last year, upending the rule that convictions are vacated if the defendant dies before all appeals are exhausted as antiquated and nonsensical, so that removed any uncertainty about the voiding of his contract and probably ensures the family cannot go after the Patriots for withholding the rest of his signing bonus. They took cap hits on him in 2013 and 2014 and he was off their books in 2015. I'm sorry for the state his poor choices have left his family in, but expecting the NFL or the Pats to pay for it is ridiculous.

Yes, I mentioned above that they are not going to going to get his forfeited money.

With the CTE claims, the NFL and the Patriots were sued as separate defendants. The NFL was dropped from the case but there is no reference to the claim against the Patriots being dismissed as well. They were suing to exempt them from the class action against the NFL, the Patriots were a separate defendant, right? I don’t know enough about the class action so I’m not sure if players and their families have no recourse to sue the teams.

“ Jenkins and her daughter are also suing the New England Patriots.

A lawsuit filed last year on behalf of the two by Baez said Hernandez had 'the most severe case of Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy medically seen in a person of his young age of 28 years' by Boston University researchers.

The lawsuit also named the NFL initially, but they were then dropped as defendants in the case.

Hernandez had just signed a seven-year, $40 million contract with the Patriots prior to the 2012 season, one of the biggest contracts in the league at the time.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6082667/amp/Aaron-Hernandez-broke-admitting-gay-killed-days-outed.html

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting article. Seems the lawyer for the fiancé/daughter is trying every angle to get money. Last year a judge ruled they could not file a 20M suit as part of the class action against the NFL for suicides related to CTEs.

https://www.distractify.com/p/aaron-hernandez-daughter-now

Interesting that the lawyer claims the NFL is the reason the daughter isn’t being raised by her father. Let’s just sweep under the rug the whole pesky “life in prison murder conviction”. As if that wasn’t going to prevent him from raising her...

Agreed.

IMO, that AH MUST have had a lot of drug money lying around. The book discusses AH and Ochocinco having switched numbers - AH took #81 only after compensation ($50k) from Ochocinco, and the proceeds were said to have fronted a drug deal involving one of the men mentioned in the Netflix series. (Ochocinco presumably knew nothing about what his payment to AH was used for). There was a lot of money and guns floating around AH, it seemed.

Also, I was under the impression that the NFL may have owned the house that AH and girlfriend lived in? Not sure how I arrived at that, except that the NFL does own some houses. So the girlfriend or daughter got $1/2m of that? Was it equity from the house? I know they bought the house for $1.3m, then sold it for $1m because it needed work. I think the buyer sold it soon after for about $1.3. But anyway, still curious about the assets and monies that were inevitably around....

I don’t think the fiancé/daughter have received any money from the sale of the house. I’m pretty sure that Aaron owned the house, not the NFL. Otherwise the lawsuits by the dead men’s’ estates and the fiancé wouldn’t be necessary.

I’ve googled a bunch and all I can find is that the fiancé filed a lawsuit against the estates of the three men who have sued Aaron’s estate. The lawsuit the fiancé filed was to enforce the homestead exemption for the daughter. In MA the homestead exemption protects up to 500k from creditors. So from what I can find, the fiancé/daughter are not going to get his forfeited money from the NFL, are not going to get money by suing the NFL for his CTE, are still in pending litigation against the Patriots for the CTE, and are in pending litigation for the homestead credit.

A fascinating mess.

I think the Patriots were part of the CTE lawsuit filed against the NFL, not 2 separate cases, so the whole thing has been thrown out. The Massachusetts Supreme Court also reinstated his murder conviction last year, upending the rule that convictions are vacated if the defendant dies before all appeals are exhausted as antiquated and nonsensical, so that removed any uncertainty about the voiding of his contract and probably ensures the family cannot go after the Patriots for withholding the rest of his signing bonus. They took cap hits on him in 2013 and 2014 and he was off their books in 2015. I'm sorry for the state his poor choices have left his family in, but expecting the NFL or the Pats to pay for it is ridiculous.

Anonymous wrote:#1 - they WERE young. Like early 20s. He was drafted at 20.

#2 - don’t think they ever officially married, although it seems she added his name? It’s so bizarre. She should be in jail too

I wondered why many articles kept referring to her as Hernandez. And yes, I’m surprised she wasn’t charged as an accomplice after the fact.

Anonymous wrote:She has a book??

The fiancé and Jose Baez have a book. Jose claims both were told to write about Aaron’s story in his suicide notes.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting article. Seems the lawyer for the fiancé/daughter is trying every angle to get money. Last year a judge ruled they could not file a 20M suit as part of the class action against the NFL for suicides related to CTEs.

https://www.distractify.com/p/aaron-hernandez-daughter-now

Interesting that the lawyer claims the NFL is the reason the daughter isn’t being raised by her father. Let’s just sweep under the rug the whole pesky “life in prison murder conviction”. As if that wasn’t going to prevent him from raising her...

Agreed.

IMO, that AH MUST have had a lot of drug money lying around. The book discusses AH and Ochocinco having switched numbers - AH took #81 only after compensation ($50k) from Ochocinco, and the proceeds were said to have fronted a drug deal involving one of the men mentioned in the Netflix series. (Ochocinco presumably knew nothing about what his payment to AH was used for). There was a lot of money and guns floating around AH, it seemed.

Also, I was under the impression that the NFL may have owned the house that AH and girlfriend lived in? Not sure how I arrived at that, except that the NFL does own some houses. So the girlfriend or daughter got $1/2m of that? Was it equity from the house? I know they bought the house for $1.3m, then sold it for $1m because it needed work. I think the buyer sold it soon after for about $1.3. But anyway, still curious about the assets and monies that were inevitably around....

I don’t think the fiancé/daughter have received any money from the sale of the house. I’m pretty sure that Aaron owned the house, not the NFL. Otherwise the lawsuits by the dead men’s’ estates and the fiancé wouldn’t be necessary.

I’ve googled a bunch and all I can find is that the fiancé filed a lawsuit against the estates of the three men who have sued Aaron’s estate. The lawsuit the fiancé filed was to enforce the homestead exemption for the daughter. In MA the homestead exemption protects up to 500k from creditors. So from what I can find, the fiancé/daughter are not going to get his forfeited money from the NFL, are not going to get money by suing the NFL for his CTE, are still in pending litigation against the Patriots for the CTE, and are in pending litigation for the homestead credit.

A fascinating mess.

#1 - they WERE young. Like early 20s. He was drafted at 20.

#2 - don’t think they ever officially married, although it seems she added his name? It’s so bizarre. She should be in jail too

She has a book??

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Anonymous wrote:Why are people saying he was violent from a young age? I don't recall anything in the documentary that talks about AH acting violent toward others prior to his father passing away. Were there instances of this?

The documentary also didn't really discuss specific instances when he had suffered from concussions. I thought there would be more evidence of this - it felt thin.

On the gay/bi-sexual thing - I think it was important to shine light on this. I didn't find it salacious at all. Having the other Patriots player speak about his experience as an in-the-closet player was eye-opening.

One thing I wonder about is if the NFL did have to make a payout to his daughter. Feels like a loose end there too.

+1

Agree.

PP here. I may have gleaned the acting violent aspect from his brother's book (which I rad right after watching the show). The tone of the book seemed very honest and "wanting to set the record straight" from Jonathan (formerly DJ). A specific example was when Jonathan mentioned that AH would "black out" and get violent ie: when they were quite young, AH would chase and beat Jonathan (who was older, but smaller, for the most part) with the video game controller if AH was losing. AH described it to his brother as having blacked out, and neither understood, except to say that violent behavior ran in the family. The dad had a criminal past, and perhaps the mom, too (the latter was not expounded upon). I do not think that AH's temper was addressed in the Netflix program, except in the context of drugs (mostly paranoia and reactive behavior) and CTE. It seemed perhaps the "black outs" were a product of having ben sexually abused several times over AH's young years.

Thanks for sharing this. I dont understand why the documentary wouldn't put more of the episodes from his younger years in there. A big omission IMO. They made it seem like everything went off the rails when his father died.

Agree it was a big omission, and the series did less to focus on the lows of the family (as much as the highs).

Anonymous wrote:Interesting article. Seems the lawyer for the fiancé/daughter is trying every angle to get money. Last year a judge ruled they could not file a 20M suit as part of the class action against the NFL for suicides related to CTEs.

https://www.distractify.com/p/aaron-hernandez-daughter-now

Interesting that the lawyer claims the NFL is the reason the daughter isn’t being raised by her father. Let’s just sweep under the rug the whole pesky “life in prison murder conviction”. As if that wasn’t going to prevent him from raising her...

Agreed.

IMO, that AH MUST have had a lot of drug money lying around. The book discusses AH and Ochocinco having switched numbers - AH took #81 only after compensation ($50k) from Ochocinco, and the proceeds were said to have fronted a drug deal involving one of the men mentioned in the Netflix series. (Ochocinco presumably knew nothing about what his payment to AH was used for). There was a lot of money and guns floating around AH, it seemed.

Also, I was under the impression that the NFL may have owned the house that AH and girlfriend lived in? Not sure how I arrived at that, except that the NFL does own some houses. So the girlfriend or daughter got $1/2m of that? Was it equity from the house? I know they bought the house for $1.3m, then sold it for $1m because it needed work. I think the buyer sold it soon after for about $1.3. But anyway, still curious about the assets and monies that were inevitably around....

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Anonymous wrote:Why are people saying he was violent from a young age? I don't recall anything in the documentary that talks about AH acting violent toward others prior to his father passing away. Were there instances of this?

The documentary also didn't really discuss specific instances when he had suffered from concussions. I thought there would be more evidence of this - it felt thin.

On the gay/bi-sexual thing - I think it was important to shine light on this. I didn't find it salacious at all. Having the other Patriots player speak about his experience as an in-the-closet player was eye-opening.

One thing I wonder about is if the NFL did have to make a payout to his daughter. Feels like a loose end there too.

+1

Agree.

PP here. I may have gleaned the acting violent aspect from his brother's book (which I rad right after watching the show). The tone of the book seemed very honest and "wanting to set the record straight" from Jonathan (formerly DJ). A specific example was when Jonathan mentioned that AH would "black out" and get violent ie: when they were quite young, AH would chase and beat Jonathan (who was older, but smaller, for the most part) with the video game controller if AH was losing. AH described it to his brother as having blacked out, and neither understood, except to say that violent behavior ran in the family. The dad had a criminal past, and perhaps the mom, too (the latter was not expounded upon). I do not think that AH's temper was addressed in the Netflix program, except in the context of drugs (mostly paranoia and reactive behavior) and CTE. It seemed perhaps the "black outs" were a product of having ben sexually abused several times over AH's young years.

Thanks for sharing this. I dont understand why the documentary wouldn't put more of the episodes from his younger years in there. A big omission IMO. They made it seem like everything went off the rails when his father died.

Interesting article. Seems the lawyer for the fiancé/daughter is trying every angle to get money. Last year a judge ruled they could not file a 20M suit as part of the class action against the NFL for suicides related to CTEs.

https://www.distractify.com/p/aaron-hernandez-daughter-now

Interesting that the lawyer claims the NFL is the reason the daughter isn’t being raised by her father. Let’s just sweep under the rug the whole pesky “life in prison murder conviction”. As if that wasn’t going to prevent him from raising her...

Anonymous wrote:So do you guys think he killed those two men in the car?

What happened to his little girl?

Yes, he killed them. His daughter is with her mother. They live in RI now. I thought the mother had gotten married recently or had a kid with someone else but maybe I mixing her up with someone else.

Anonymous wrote:So do you guys think he killed those two men in the car?

What happened to his little girl?

I think so.

The little girl is with the mom, who remarried about a year later, or at least had another daughter a year later. She married a boxer who owns/owned a restaurant, so I am seeing a slight pattern here. I don't think the two sisters (AH's girlfriend and her sister, who was dating Odin Lloyd) speak, because they chose to testify on opposite sides. I also don't think the fiance speaks with AH's family.

So do you guys think he killed those two men in the car?

What happened to his little girl?