Tulane, Trinity, Michigan, Boulder

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan. Full pay OOS, elite prep = guarantee admission

Not with a 3.0.

Why do you have to exaggerate? "B" students are 3.0 to 3.6, are they not? Full pay OOS rich kids from an elite prep school are getting into Michigan with a 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6. All day long. Especially if they display demonstrated interest and apply early. Michigan is hard up for cash, obsessed with building its endowment and cultivating donor class.

Less than 3% of the incoming class had below a 3.5 GPA per the common data set.

Common data is juked and spun. You don't know if that's weighted or unweighted. Even if we give them the benefit of the doubt and say it's unweighted: Over 15,000 admits per year, so 3% is over 500 < 3.5s? Add in the 3.6s, certainly north of a 1,000. We personally know "B" student family friends from elite preps currently at Michigan.

At the big 3 where my kid went, B students went to a whole range of places including Occidental, Tulane, Vermont, Wisconsin, Scripps and Bates.

I prefer the real big 3, Oakton, Madison and Woodson. ?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Michigan. Full pay OOS, elite prep = guarantee admission

Not with a 3.0.

Why do you have to exaggerate? "B" students are 3.0 to 3.6, are they not? Full pay OOS rich kids from an elite prep school are getting into Michigan with a 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6. All day long. Especially if they display demonstrated interest and apply early. Michigan is hard up for cash, obsessed with building its endowment and cultivating donor class.

Less than 3% of the incoming class had below a 3.5 GPA per the common data set.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Michigan. Full pay OOS, elite prep = guarantee admission

Not with a 3.0.

Why do you have to exaggerate? "B" students are 3.0 to 3.6, are they not? Full pay OOS rich kids from an elite prep school are getting into Michigan with a 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6. All day long. Especially if they display demonstrated interest and apply early. Michigan is hard up for cash, obsessed with building its endowment and cultivating donor class.

I HIGHLY doubt but I don’t have the data. Can you post your source? And please don’t tell me you are fart-talking.

-np

Let me pull up that internal PowerPoint presentation that details exactly how and why Michigan opens the door for rich OOS "B" students from elite prep schools to cultivate a coastal donor class.

What do you think the viral Uber kid's high school GPA and ACT was? His dad is a multi-millionaire Manhattan developer (and now a convicted felon).


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1277900/University-Michigan-frat-boy-filmed-harassing-Uber-driver.html

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Michigan. Full pay OOS, elite prep = guarantee admission

Not with a 3.0.

Why do you have to exaggerate? "B" students are 3.0 to 3.6, are they not? Full pay OOS rich kids from an elite prep school are getting into Michigan with a 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6. All day long. Especially if they display demonstrated interest and apply early. Michigan is hard up for cash, obsessed with building its endowment and cultivating donor class.

This seems correct to me. DCs elite private sends a 2-3 to Michigan every year, unhooked except for $$. I have no way of knowing their exact GPAs but can infer they are not the top kids in the class bc they have NOT earned National Merit recognition or Cum Laude distinction (given to top 20% of students with the highest GPAs). Given how school grades thats probably mid to low 3s.

My son at a top 25 LAC tells me the dumb kids in his classes are invariably the private school kids. Probably got a bump in admissions and ended up over their heads.

Anonymous wrote:Fellow elite private school parent here. Remember guys this is a long term play. Private has smaller classes so our kids get more attention even if they end up at the same colleges. Writing skills, etc. tend to be stronger from private. As a lawyer, I have seen this at firms.

I love this post. My god what a pompous douchebag. Same colleges but the results will magically show later, because you say so. Riiight.

Anonymous wrote:Fellow elite private school parent here. Remember guys this is a long term play. Private has smaller classes so our kids get more attention even if they end up at the same colleges. Writing skills, etc. tend to be stronger from private. As a lawyer, I have seen this at firms.

+1. Also soft skills and social network. Sidwell kids, for example, aren't hanging with middle class public schoolers in college. But of course all of this is over the head of hoi polloi who think their kid is the EXACT same as everyone they go to a certain college with. Campuses are stratified as hell. The playing field is never level.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Michigan. Full pay OOS, elite prep = guarantee admission

Not with a 3.0.

Why do you have to exaggerate? "B" students are 3.0 to 3.6, are they not? Full pay OOS rich kids from an elite prep school are getting into Michigan with a 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6. All day long. Especially if they display demonstrated interest and apply early. Michigan is hard up for cash, obsessed with building its endowment and cultivating donor class.

I HIGHLY doubt but I don’t have the data. Can you post your source? And please don’t tell me you are fart-talking.

-np

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Michigan. Full pay OOS, elite prep = guarantee admission

Not with a 3.0.

Why do you have to exaggerate? "B" students are 3.0 to 3.6, are they not? Full pay OOS rich kids from an elite prep school are getting into Michigan with a 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6. All day long. Especially if they display demonstrated interest and apply early. Michigan is hard up for cash, obsessed with building its endowment and cultivating donor class.

OP here - Thank you for the (mostly) kind and generous responses. As I mentioned I was reaching out to the boards because sometimes the parent hive brain has good information the college counselors don't have about the big picture.

He will apply to a few SLAC's - he thinks he wants a big fun college with sports and a greek system but we are researching which SLAC's could work. He's going to try to get his ACT up- but he a really bad test taker so the person who said he
was lazy is incorrect. Like I said, he's a hard working, well-liked, good kid. Feel lucky to have him- Fine with the fact that he has B's bc I know he is trying.

In hindsight grade-wise a big 3 may not have been the best way to go but he is happy, shines in his sport and socially, so it's all OK. I just really wasn't sure where the B kids go bc other parents at our school are sometimes, properly, not transparent about what kids' stats are.

Also he will be full pay OOS at the big state schools, it sounds like that is a factor which I naively wasn't giving enough weight to.

Anonymous wrote:Fellow elite private school parent here. Remember guys this is a long term play. Private has smaller classes so our kids get more attention even if they end up at the same colleges. Writing skills, etc. tend to be stronger from private. As a lawyer, I have seen this at firms.

Insecure people need to justify their "superiority"...

Fellow elite private school parent here. Remember guys this is a long term play. Private has smaller classes so our kids get more attention even if they end up at the same colleges. Writing skills, etc. tend to be stronger from private. As a lawyer, I have seen this at firms.