Anonymous
12/17/2019 15:43
Subject: Anyone else resisting frozen and other princess stuff?
OP, looking back. We didn't do Disney. No princess stuff. No Barbies. I didn't think it hurt our DD playing with other girls. We kept our son from it too. His only complaint was in high school there was a literature compare/contract assignment w/a Disney reference and he didn't know the story.
Anonymous
12/17/2019 14:36
Subject: Anyone else resisting frozen and other princess stuff?
Anonymous wrote:You know what I find hilarious about this?
While these anti-princess mommies won’t let their daughters enjoy pink princess stories and gear, these same women would likely brag about letting their sons play princess.
Wrong. It's internalized misogyny and nothing is worse than a boy who acts like a girl. It's general (and often unconscious) disdain for anything perceived as too feminine. The PP talking about second-wave feminism has nailed it.
See also: toxic masculinity, which is alive and well.
Anonymous
12/17/2019 14:34
Subject: Anyone else resisting frozen and other princess stuff?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I do because I want my child to love her gorgeous black hair, brown eyes, and brown skin. I let her get into the music, but I refuse to buy her a blonde elsa wig.
My white kid with brown hair/brown eyes loves dressing up as Doc McStuffins and as Moana. She also loves dressing up as Elsa. We don't have any Merida gear, but she pretends to be red-haired Merida sometimes; Ariel, too. We don't do any type of wigs or anything that changes who she is, she's just putting on dresses and clothes and accessories.
The world devalues brown skin and black hair. It's very different.
I never said otherwise. I made a contribution that my white child does enjoy dressing up as characters that she looks up to who have skin of a different color.
Anonymous
12/17/2019 14:29
Subject: Anyone else resisting frozen and other princess stuff?
I haven’t read all the replies. My daughter is almost 6. We started showing her classic Disney movies around age 4 and she first saw Frozen earlier this year. Sure, she likes princesses, but she also likes Little House on the Prairie books, climbing trees, trains, playing in the creek, and camping. All things in moderation, and even obsessions are usually short-lived for small children.
I saw all the Disney movies as a child and never once thought I was helpless, that my looks mattered over other things, or that a man should rescue me. They were just movies/stories, like anything else.
I saw all the Disney movies as a child and never once thought I was helpless, that my looks mattered over other things, or that a man should rescue me. They were just movies/stories, like anything else.
Anonymous
12/17/2019 13:59
Subject: Anyone else resisting frozen and other princess stuff?
Anonymous wrote:You know what I find hilarious about this?
While these anti-princess mommies won’t let their daughters enjoy pink princess stories and gear, these same women would likely brag about letting their sons play princess.
Because they are woke.
Anonymous
12/17/2019 13:26
Subject: Anyone else resisting frozen and other princess stuff?
You know what I find hilarious about this?
While these anti-princess mommies won’t let their daughters enjoy pink princess stories and gear, these same women would likely brag about letting their sons play princess.
While these anti-princess mommies won’t let their daughters enjoy pink princess stories and gear, these same women would likely brag about letting their sons play princess.
Anonymous
12/17/2019 13:18
Subject: Anyone else resisting frozen and other princess stuff?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I do because I want my child to love her gorgeous black hair, brown eyes, and brown skin. I let her get into the music, but I refuse to buy her a blonde elsa wig.
My white kid with brown hair/brown eyes loves dressing up as Doc McStuffins and as Moana. She also loves dressing up as Elsa. We don't have any Merida gear, but she pretends to be red-haired Merida sometimes; Ariel, too. We don't do any type of wigs or anything that changes who she is, she's just putting on dresses and clothes and accessories.
The world devalues brown skin and black hair. It's very different.
Anonymous
12/17/2019 13:17
Subject: Anyone else resisting frozen and other princess stuff?
Ugh, this princess hatred is such second-wave feminism, please get with the 21st century. There is NOTHING WRONG with being a girly-girl; there is nothing inferior about femininity and we should be allowed to embrace our love of clothes and shoes and makeup and romance novels or WHATEVER. Please realize that by enforcing a ban on princesses you are passing down your internalized patriarchy to your daughter and asking her to sublimate a part of who she is because you think it’s “dumb” and by “dumb” I mean “too female.”
Signed,
A millennial who grew up on old school Disney princesses and still managed to grow up into a smart, competent, highly educated scientist with an apparent above-average comprehension of feminist theory.
(Eyeroll)
Signed,
A millennial who grew up on old school Disney princesses and still managed to grow up into a smart, competent, highly educated scientist with an apparent above-average comprehension of feminist theory.
(Eyeroll)
Anonymous
12/16/2019 20:32
Subject: Anyone else resisting frozen and other princess stuff?
Mother of 4 boys here:
I think it’s truly bizarre how some women make a big deal about princesses. Didn’t you play make believe as a kid? Didn’t you own a Barbie or another doll? Didn’t you dress up?
My boys went through various phases of dressing up like pirates and construction workers. One obsessed over the garbage man for nearly a year. They also dressed up like various animals, soldiers, and “bad guys.” Heck, they played with a variety of toy weapons! Guess what? They grew up to be normal people. NBD.
I wish women would stop projecting whatever insecurities or ridiculous expectations onto their kids. It’s just sad.
I think it’s truly bizarre how some women make a big deal about princesses. Didn’t you play make believe as a kid? Didn’t you own a Barbie or another doll? Didn’t you dress up?
My boys went through various phases of dressing up like pirates and construction workers. One obsessed over the garbage man for nearly a year. They also dressed up like various animals, soldiers, and “bad guys.” Heck, they played with a variety of toy weapons! Guess what? They grew up to be normal people. NBD.
I wish women would stop projecting whatever insecurities or ridiculous expectations onto their kids. It’s just sad.
Anonymous
12/16/2019 19:06
Subject: Anyone else resisting frozen and other princess stuff?
I fel the same way as you when my daughter was 3.5. She'll be making her own decisinos about these things as she gets older and is exposed to things by her friends.
Anonymous
12/16/2019 16:40
Subject: Re:Anyone else resisting frozen and other princess stuff?
Anonymous wrote:Agree- I strongly dislike almost all Frozen stuff but Frozen princesses aren't rescued, rescue themselves, negotiate amongst siblings, and then end up leaders of nations (over the course of the 2 movies). So I like it. Not old school annoying disney princess stuff.
*Sorry I meant to say "strongly dislike all princess stuff"
Anonymous
12/16/2019 16:40
Subject: Re:Anyone else resisting frozen and other princess stuff?
Agree- I strongly dislike almost all Frozen stuff but Frozen princesses aren't rescued, rescue themselves, negotiate amongst siblings, and then end up leaders of nations (over the course of the 2 movies). So I like it. Not old school annoying disney princess stuff.
Anonymous
12/16/2019 16:35
Subject: Anyone else resisting frozen and other princess stuff?
Op as someone who was definitely like this as a first time mom, you aren’t the first to think this hill matters and won’t be the last, but it so, so doesn’t. By placing this much angst and principle on something so silly as a princess in a movie you paradoxically give them so much more importance than they would ever have if you just let her watch. She plays it at school, just let her see it. you’re not dooming her to a life of servitude and helplessness because she watches princess movies. In any case she will 100% outgrow this by 6, the window is very short.
Anonymous
12/16/2019 16:18
Subject: Anyone else resisting frozen and other princess stuff?
I happily indulge my son's obsession with all things Elsa 
Anonymous
12/16/2019 16:17
Subject: Anyone else resisting frozen and other princess stuff?
Anonymous wrote:My child has never seen frozen. We do, however, Play the frozen soundtrack. She knows “let it go” and “do you want to build a snowman”. She loves her Elsa dress.
She also loves to pretend she’s a cat. And a unicorn, altnough she’s never seen one. I frequently have breakfast with a scarecrow (Hallowe’en outfit), and last week, a tiara was required gear, although we don’t “encouraged princess culture. This year’s tree trimming pics contain Wonder Woman, and I’m sad (or proud) to say, it wasn’t me. Today, I made pancakes with a veterinarian, who became a giraffe in a tutu an hour later.
We have a dress up box, and DD gets to pick whatever she wants to be. We don’t judge, or care.
I really don’t understand the hate for princess stuff. My daughter is strong, independent, and smart as hell. A tiara and a tutu don’t change who she is inside, and THAT is the life lesson.
To the poster that wrote above- if you wrote a book, I would buy it. I am hoping you are a teacher b/c you are who I want my daughter with when I am not there!