Anonymous
12/14/2019 21:31
Subject: The Facts About the Districtwide Boundary Analysis
Another evening, another poster on the Maryland Public Schools forum who thinks it's all the illegals' fault.
Anonymous
12/14/2019 21:26
Subject: The Facts About the Districtwide Boundary Analysis
The county get tons of illegal immigrants because of their policies. Illegal immigrants with very low education and skills cluster together in low-income areas, so then their kids all go to the same schools. Now all of the sudden there is a 'diversity' problem, because you have too many children of illegal immigrants concentrated at certain schools. The solution now is to bus them into schools where more wealthy parents and citizens send their kids, and to send the wealthier kids into schools where illegal immigrants send their kids. It is an astounding display of entitlement. Just by coming here illegally you deserve to have access to the best schools and slice of the American wealth pie that our own citizens have built up. Get out of here with that nonsense. Maybe the county wouldn't have so many problems with diversity if they didn't keep rolling out the carpet for illegal immigration.
I grew up in DE and went to school there all throughout the 80s and 90s. Busing did very little to solve the education quality in the state. DE schools remain terrible and have tons of problems staying open now because everyone sends their kids to private, vo-tech or charter schools to avoid terrible DE public schools. Take a look at VA, NJ, MD, PA, all the way up to MA. Why are homes sooooooooooo much more expensive everywhere on the East Coast compared to DE, yet DE has amazing location on the Eastern Seaboard? It's because the schools stink. I remember kids having to get up at 5:30 AM just to get bussed to schools instead of being able to walk to the schools closest to them. It wasn't uncommon for people I grew up with to have to be sent to 4 different schools all across the county outside of their original feeder schools. The state had to buy huge fleets of buses that just added to the traffic and wasted tons of gas. It also completely ruined community based schooling and cultures of neighborhoods. People forget, that even some minorities in a city like Wilmington, DE were against bussing because they started to gain power in the local schools and there was a strong sense of community in the neighborhoods when every neighbor could send their kids to the school down the street and everyone would attend the same basketball, baseball, football games and other school events. Bussing ruined all of that. The most ironic part of it all, is that for how much flak Biden got for his stance on busing during this election cycle, DE DID actually revert back to community based schools in 2000 under the Neighborhood Schools Act of 2000, but by then, all of the damage had already been done to DE's public schools system, and the quality decline has persisted to this day. People in DE still send tons of kids to private/charter/vo-tech schools or leave the state all-together once they have kids and move up to PA. The county and state of MD are headed the way of DE.
I grew up in DE and went to school there all throughout the 80s and 90s. Busing did very little to solve the education quality in the state. DE schools remain terrible and have tons of problems staying open now because everyone sends their kids to private, vo-tech or charter schools to avoid terrible DE public schools. Take a look at VA, NJ, MD, PA, all the way up to MA. Why are homes sooooooooooo much more expensive everywhere on the East Coast compared to DE, yet DE has amazing location on the Eastern Seaboard? It's because the schools stink. I remember kids having to get up at 5:30 AM just to get bussed to schools instead of being able to walk to the schools closest to them. It wasn't uncommon for people I grew up with to have to be sent to 4 different schools all across the county outside of their original feeder schools. The state had to buy huge fleets of buses that just added to the traffic and wasted tons of gas. It also completely ruined community based schooling and cultures of neighborhoods. People forget, that even some minorities in a city like Wilmington, DE were against bussing because they started to gain power in the local schools and there was a strong sense of community in the neighborhoods when every neighbor could send their kids to the school down the street and everyone would attend the same basketball, baseball, football games and other school events. Bussing ruined all of that. The most ironic part of it all, is that for how much flak Biden got for his stance on busing during this election cycle, DE DID actually revert back to community based schools in 2000 under the Neighborhood Schools Act of 2000, but by then, all of the damage had already been done to DE's public schools system, and the quality decline has persisted to this day. People in DE still send tons of kids to private/charter/vo-tech schools or leave the state all-together once they have kids and move up to PA. The county and state of MD are headed the way of DE.
Anonymous
12/14/2019 21:06
Subject: The Facts About the Districtwide Boundary Analysis
Anonymous wrote:People don’t believe the agenda of the BOE which makes sense. 1 out of 8 kids was redistricted in Howard County. Clarksburg was a mess. If you don’t live in this area you might not understand but they prioritized diversity over geography.
The upcounty boundary study was not a mess (unless by "a mess" you mean "people who got reassigned are upset that they got reassigned"), and no they didn't.
-MCPS parent who lives in the area
Anonymous
12/14/2019 21:03
Subject: The Facts About the Districtwide Boundary Analysis
Anonymous wrote:People don’t believe the agenda of the BOE which makes sense. 1 out of 8 kids was redistricted in Howard County. Clarksburg was a mess. If you don’t live in this area you might not understand but they prioritized diversity over geography.
They should prioritize diversity. There are so many racial issues with the segregated schools it would help a lot, but that being said I don't think they'll do it.
Anonymous
12/14/2019 20:59
Subject: The Facts About the Districtwide Boundary Analysis
BTW- The Howard County told citizens the move was about facility utilization too.
Anonymous
12/14/2019 20:58
Subject: The Facts About the Districtwide Boundary Analysis
People don’t believe the agenda of the BOE which makes sense. 1 out of 8 kids was redistricted in Howard County. Clarksburg was a mess. If you don’t live in this area you might not understand but they prioritized diversity over geography.
Anonymous
12/14/2019 09:11
Subject: The Facts About the Districtwide Boundary Analysis
Anonymous wrote:No they were complaining about lack of transparency and loss of confidence in the BOE. Nice try though.
"Transparency" has become a meaningless word.
Anonymous
12/14/2019 09:04
Subject: The Facts About the Districtwide Boundary Analysis
No they were complaining about lack of transparency and loss of confidence in the BOE. Nice try though.
Anonymous
12/13/2019 14:44
Subject: The Facts About the Districtwide Boundary Analysis
Anonymous wrote:Parent behavior at the meeting was disgraceful. That is all.
The same old parents complaining about poor kids being unworth and how the BoE should focus on their property values,
Anonymous
12/13/2019 14:39
Subject: The Facts About the Districtwide Boundary Analysis
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Benefits of Diverse Schools: Diversity is one of the four factors considered by the school system when reviewing boundaries because research shows that diverse schools benefit students. The benefits, as described in the research, suggest:
Students in integrated schools have higher average test scores.
Integrated classrooms encourage critical thinking, problem solving and creativity.
What is the evidence that "Integrated classrooms encourage critical thinking, problem solving and creativity."?
Do you prefer segregated classrooms?
No. I prefer to not hear statements that are total BS. I'd have the same reaction if they wrote
"Integrated classrooms help reduce gun violence and drug abuse, and are an important step in the fight against global warming."
That's silly, PP. It's well-established in organizational behavior that homogeneous groups are inclined to group-think, lack of innovation, and lower performance.
I assume that you are trolling, and don't believe such a ridiculous statement.
Anonymous
12/13/2019 10:49
Subject: Re:The Facts About the Districtwide Boundary Analysis
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Instead of spending time and money on these types of analysis, why don’t they target specific schools that are falling below expectations? Obviously the kids there need more help. It seems to make more sense to give support to those schools with high farms that are falling below average, maybe an after school tutor or something. I understand that a lot of farms kids may not have parents who can help them at home because of work, and this is exactly the type of support they need. Push for accountability on al schools and in maps admin to make sure the money is spent wisely and not in some dumb contracts that do not help kids.
Please see the ENDLESS threads from certain parents about how "all the money goes to ESOL and FARMS kids" under the current system.
Please see also the whingeing from parents newly rezoned to Neelsville MS over the state of the school facilities.
Middle class parents do not want additional resources to go to high-needs schools, and DNGAF about the conditions in which kids are educated until the day their own kids are impacted. The only way to get them to care is to integrate the schools.
That is not true. Parents care and plenty of them do endless amounts of volunteering and fundraising to help the needy.
But serious question - why is there so much poverty in MoCo. What are we doing to raise these families up out of poverty? Why have we failed at that already?
The bigger question is why are we encouraging poverty to relocate here with the welcome mat for illegals and tons of services for low income residents
The even bigger question is why you don’t want your kids to share classrooms with poor kids.
Um for the lasts time slowly because generally they have more issues and are not as intelligent which forces the teacher to spend time with them instead of actually teaching the class slowing down the rate of learning forcing us to supplement outside the classroom.
Anonymous
12/12/2019 20:17
Subject: The Facts About the Districtwide Boundary Analysis
Does someone have a link to the actual proposal by the consulting firm? I haven’t gotten to a meeting yet and it’s hard to know what to believe right now. Thx.
Anonymous
12/12/2019 19:54
Subject: Re:The Facts About the Districtwide Boundary Analysis
Anonymous wrote:Instead of spending time and money on these types of analysis, why don’t they target specific schools that are falling below expectations? Obviously the kids there need more help. It seems to make more sense to give support to those schools with high farms that are falling below average, maybe an after school tutor or something. I understand that a lot of farms kids may not have parents who can help them at home because of work, and this is exactly the type of support they need. Push for accountability on al schools and in maps admin to make sure the money is spent wisely and not in some dumb contracts that do not help kids.[/quote
You still have the issue of schools boundaries being uneven with some schools being overcrowded and others being under crowded. with the fact that they have not done a boundary study in decades
Anonymous
12/12/2019 19:39
Subject: The Facts About the Districtwide Boundary Analysis
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They would like to do county wide boundary changes. At any rate, with Crown and Woodward opening they will have the opportunity to redistrict a large swath of the county.
MCPS currently has 25 high schools. When Crown opens and Woodward re-opens, MCPS will have 27 high schools - an increase of 8%. Most people in the county will not be affected.
I think that they wouldn't have paid half a million dollars for an analysis they don't plan to use as backup for lots of rezoning.
The boundary analysis is capped at $475,000 - 0.018% of the MCPS annual operating budget. Or, let's put it another way: what kind of housing, zoned for which schools, can you buy for $475,000 in Montgomery County?
It is a four year contract. No cap.
Yes, there is a cap. The contract is not to exceed $475,000, and it's for one year with 3 one-year renewal options.
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/departments/publicinfo/Boundary_Analysis/Award-Cont-Districtwide-Boundary-Analysis.pdf
Try again. This time read the document. The $475,000 is for the first year only. The cost of the additional years was not set. This could easily be a $2 million dollar for $XYZ.
"for a total amount not to exceed $475,000 for Fiscal Year 2020"
Anonymous
12/12/2019 19:16
Subject: Re:The Facts About the Districtwide Boundary Analysis
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Instead of spending time and money on these types of analysis, why don’t they target specific schools that are falling below expectations? Obviously the kids there need more help. It seems to make more sense to give support to those schools with high farms that are falling below average, maybe an after school tutor or something. I understand that a lot of farms kids may not have parents who can help them at home because of work, and this is exactly the type of support they need. Push for accountability on al schools and in maps admin to make sure the money is spent wisely and not in some dumb contracts that do not help kids.
Please see the ENDLESS threads from certain parents about how "all the money goes to ESOL and FARMS kids" under the current system.
Please see also the whingeing from parents newly rezoned to Neelsville MS over the state of the school facilities.
Middle class parents do not want additional resources to go to high-needs schools, and DNGAF about the conditions in which kids are educated until the day their own kids are impacted. The only way to get them to care is to integrate the schools.
That is not true. Parents care and plenty of them do endless amounts of volunteering and fundraising to help the needy.
But serious question - why is there so much poverty in MoCo. What are we doing to raise these families up out of poverty? Why have we failed at that already?
The bigger question is why are we encouraging poverty to relocate here with the welcome mat for illegals and tons of services for low income residents
The even bigger question is why you don’t want your kids to share classrooms with poor kids.