Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can not a single person here figure out how to post a pic? There is such a range, I can't envision it.
https://pakalohamaui.com/shop/honolua-ruched-bottom/
I dunno. That's sort of borderline for me. I was picturing an actual thong.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This thread is ridiculous.
Please worry about other important things. Stop shaming women.
Who cares what someone else wears?
Women will be the downfall of women.....
Because women wearing this type of clothing encourages objectifying ALL women. Men prefer for women to wear less clothing so some women wearing less clothing makes the standard that ALL women should go to the pool or beach this way.
Young girls wearing this type of clothing sexualizes young girls and signals to men “look at me in a sexual way because I am showing off my ass and boobs.” This in turn encourages men to sexualize all young girls, which is wrong.
Nah. They objectify themselves and themselves only - which they are free to do that if that is what they want to do. I, personally, would not want that kind of attention nor would I want the judgment that comes along with it.
They are not objectifying themselves.
You are objectifying then and you are an apologist for a generation of kavenaugh men who are not expected to control themselves.
No one thinks men shouldn't be able to control themselves. But of course heterosexual men are going to be turned on by seeing an attractive female with a good body in a skimpy bikini that shows her entire ass. iAnd it's the entire reason that women choose to wear these types of suits. It's not something a parent should allow a 16 year old to wear.
People—of all genders and sexualities—get turned on all the time.
Why is it that we put responsibility for straight men’s inability/unwillingness to manage their sexual attraction on girls/women? Why are our standards for straight men so low? Why don’t we expect them to manage their urges the way we expect everyone else to?
Why is this the fault/responsibility of girls and women?
So you think that teenage boys should be wearing thongs to the beach, too, and that any woman/girl who looks at them are rapey perverts?
I think people should wear what they want and that other people should be able to control their responses. The only people who seem to have trouble controlling their responses—indeed, the only people anyone on this thread is worried about protecting girls from—are straight men.
So I wouldn’t worry about teen boys in thongs because I wouldn’t expect anyone to make them feel unsafe or as if they are pieces of meat. Society accepts that behavior only from straight men targeting women.
So you expect people to NOT NOTICE that you are falling out of your too small swimsuit? I think you are entirely unrealistic. When you make a spectacle of yourself people are going to notice. You are going to get reactions and you KNOW that you will get reactions. It's precisely why you chose to wear what you did. Just ask the "People of Walmart" - they know they're weird and they don't care if you think they're trashy. They are who they are - so there!
You are moving the goalposts. It’s fine to notice. It’s fine to register and even judge.
It’s not fine to comment, leer, touch. It’s not fine to tell other people they can’t show their bodies because you can’t control your reaction to their bodies.
But people will comment and they will react. If I paint myself purple from head to toe and go for a jog around the block people are going notice me, they will react and they'll probably say "WTF??". They may point at me and say to their neighbor "What on earth!?!" Some might do a double take and find themselves gawking in amazement....
Why? Because I have very purposely drawn attention to myself - LOOK AT MEEEE!!!!
When you make a spectacle of yourself you get the reactions that you get.
People with couth simply look away. It's in poor taste to visibly react to others' appearance, positive or negative.
Nope. If I act like the purple crazy lady running down the street, I can't then blame my neighbors for being appalled. Life doesn't work like that.
That is why it is crazy to allow your child to wear something so revealing that people literally have to TURN AWAY and NOT LOOK at them (Yikes!!). Social cues....
You haven't grasped this concept. It's not about being appalled (or alternatively, aroused). It's about not showing it, not one iota. There is no turning away. The eyes simply move on to something else.
Again. If you do something shocking and attention seeking, don't act *shocked* when people act shocked by your weird antics.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can not a single person here figure out how to post a pic? There is such a range, I can't envision it.
https://pakalohamaui.com/shop/honolua-ruched-bottom/
Anonymous wrote:Can not a single person here figure out how to post a pic? There is such a range, I can't envision it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This thread is ridiculous.
Please worry about other important things. Stop shaming women.
Who cares what someone else wears?
Women will be the downfall of women.....
Because women wearing this type of clothing encourages objectifying ALL women. Men prefer for women to wear less clothing so some women wearing less clothing makes the standard that ALL women should go to the pool or beach this way.
Young girls wearing this type of clothing sexualizes young girls and signals to men “look at me in a sexual way because I am showing off my ass and boobs.” This in turn encourages men to sexualize all young girls, which is wrong.
Nah. They objectify themselves and themselves only - which they are free to do that if that is what they want to do. I, personally, would not want that kind of attention nor would I want the judgment that comes along with it.
They are not objectifying themselves.
You are objectifying then and you are an apologist for a generation of kavenaugh men who are not expected to control themselves.
No one thinks men shouldn't be able to control themselves. But of course heterosexual men are going to be turned on by seeing an attractive female with a good body in a skimpy bikini that shows her entire ass. iAnd it's the entire reason that women choose to wear these types of suits. It's not something a parent should allow a 16 year old to wear.
People—of all genders and sexualities—get turned on all the time.
Why is it that we put responsibility for straight men’s inability/unwillingness to manage their sexual attraction on girls/women? Why are our standards for straight men so low? Why don’t we expect them to manage their urges the way we expect everyone else to?
Why is this the fault/responsibility of girls and women?
So you think that teenage boys should be wearing thongs to the beach, too, and that any woman/girl who looks at them are rapey perverts?
I think people should wear what they want and that other people should be able to control their responses. The only people who seem to have trouble controlling their responses—indeed, the only people anyone on this thread is worried about protecting girls from—are straight men.
So I wouldn’t worry about teen boys in thongs because I wouldn’t expect anyone to make them feel unsafe or as if they are pieces of meat. Society accepts that behavior only from straight men targeting women.
So you expect people to NOT NOTICE that you are falling out of your too small swimsuit? I think you are entirely unrealistic. When you make a spectacle of yourself people are going to notice. You are going to get reactions and you KNOW that you will get reactions. It's precisely why you chose to wear what you did. Just ask the "People of Walmart" - they know they're weird and they don't care if you think they're trashy. They are who they are - so there!
You are moving the goalposts. It’s fine to notice. It’s fine to register and even judge.
It’s not fine to comment, leer, touch. It’s not fine to tell other people they can’t show their bodies because you can’t control your reaction to their bodies.
But people will comment and they will react. If I paint myself purple from head to toe and go for a jog around the block people are going notice me, they will react and they'll probably say "WTF??". They may point at me and say to their neighbor "What on earth!?!" Some might do a double take and find themselves gawking in amazement....
Why? Because I have very purposely drawn attention to myself - LOOK AT MEEEE!!!!
When you make a spectacle of yourself you get the reactions that you get.
People with couth simply look away. It's in poor taste to visibly react to others' appearance, positive or negative.
Nope. If I act like the purple crazy lady running down the street, I can't then blame my neighbors for being appalled. Life doesn't work like that.
That is why it is crazy to allow your child to wear something so revealing that people literally have to TURN AWAY and NOT LOOK at them (Yikes!!). Social cues....
You haven't grasped this concept. It's not about being appalled (or alternatively, aroused). It's about not showing it, not one iota. There is no turning away. The eyes simply move on to something else.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This thread is ridiculous.
Please worry about other important things. Stop shaming women.
Who cares what someone else wears?
Women will be the downfall of women.....
Because women wearing this type of clothing encourages objectifying ALL women. Men prefer for women to wear less clothing so some women wearing less clothing makes the standard that ALL women should go to the pool or beach this way.
Young girls wearing this type of clothing sexualizes young girls and signals to men “look at me in a sexual way because I am showing off my ass and boobs.” This in turn encourages men to sexualize all young girls, which is wrong.
Nah. They objectify themselves and themselves only - which they are free to do that if that is what they want to do. I, personally, would not want that kind of attention nor would I want the judgment that comes along with it.
They are not objectifying themselves.
You are objectifying then and you are an apologist for a generation of kavenaugh men who are not expected to control themselves.
No one thinks men shouldn't be able to control themselves. But of course heterosexual men are going to be turned on by seeing an attractive female with a good body in a skimpy bikini that shows her entire ass. iAnd it's the entire reason that women choose to wear these types of suits. It's not something a parent should allow a 16 year old to wear.
People—of all genders and sexualities—get turned on all the time.
Why is it that we put responsibility for straight men’s inability/unwillingness to manage their sexual attraction on girls/women? Why are our standards for straight men so low? Why don’t we expect them to manage their urges the way we expect everyone else to?
Why is this the fault/responsibility of girls and women?
So you think that teenage boys should be wearing thongs to the beach, too, and that any woman/girl who looks at them are rapey perverts?
I think people should wear what they want and that other people should be able to control their responses. The only people who seem to have trouble controlling their responses—indeed, the only people anyone on this thread is worried about protecting girls from—are straight men.
So I wouldn’t worry about teen boys in thongs because I wouldn’t expect anyone to make them feel unsafe or as if they are pieces of meat. Society accepts that behavior only from straight men targeting women.
So you expect people to NOT NOTICE that you are falling out of your too small swimsuit? I think you are entirely unrealistic. When you make a spectacle of yourself people are going to notice. You are going to get reactions and you KNOW that you will get reactions. It's precisely why you chose to wear what you did. Just ask the "People of Walmart" - they know they're weird and they don't care if you think they're trashy. They are who they are - so there!
You are moving the goalposts. It’s fine to notice. It’s fine to register and even judge.
It’s not fine to comment, leer, touch. It’s not fine to tell other people they can’t show their bodies because you can’t control your reaction to their bodies.
But people will comment and they will react. If I paint myself purple from head to toe and go for a jog around the block people are going notice me, they will react and they'll probably say "WTF??". They may point at me and say to their neighbor "What on earth!?!" Some might do a double take and find themselves gawking in amazement....
Why? Because I have very purposely drawn attention to myself - LOOK AT MEEEE!!!!
When you make a spectacle of yourself you get the reactions that you get.
People with couth simply look away. It's in poor taste to visibly react to others' appearance, positive or negative.
Nope. If I act like the purple crazy lady running down the street, I can't then blame my neighbors for being appalled. Life doesn't work like that.
That is why it is crazy to allow your child to wear something so revealing that people literally have to TURN AWAY and NOT LOOK at them (Yikes!!). Social cues....
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This thread is ridiculous.
Please worry about other important things. Stop shaming women.
Who cares what someone else wears?
Women will be the downfall of women.....
Because women wearing this type of clothing encourages objectifying ALL women. Men prefer for women to wear less clothing so some women wearing less clothing makes the standard that ALL women should go to the pool or beach this way.
Young girls wearing this type of clothing sexualizes young girls and signals to men “look at me in a sexual way because I am showing off my ass and boobs.” This in turn encourages men to sexualize all young girls, which is wrong.
Nah. They objectify themselves and themselves only - which they are free to do that if that is what they want to do. I, personally, would not want that kind of attention nor would I want the judgment that comes along with it.
They are not objectifying themselves.
You are objectifying then and you are an apologist for a generation of kavenaugh men who are not expected to control themselves.
No one thinks men shouldn't be able to control themselves. But of course heterosexual men are going to be turned on by seeing an attractive female with a good body in a skimpy bikini that shows her entire ass. iAnd it's the entire reason that women choose to wear these types of suits. It's not something a parent should allow a 16 year old to wear.
People—of all genders and sexualities—get turned on all the time.
Why is it that we put responsibility for straight men’s inability/unwillingness to manage their sexual attraction on girls/women? Why are our standards for straight men so low? Why don’t we expect them to manage their urges the way we expect everyone else to?
Why is this the fault/responsibility of girls and women?
So you think that teenage boys should be wearing thongs to the beach, too, and that any woman/girl who looks at them are rapey perverts?
I think people should wear what they want and that other people should be able to control their responses. The only people who seem to have trouble controlling their responses—indeed, the only people anyone on this thread is worried about protecting girls from—are straight men.
So I wouldn’t worry about teen boys in thongs because I wouldn’t expect anyone to make them feel unsafe or as if they are pieces of meat. Society accepts that behavior only from straight men targeting women.
So you expect people to NOT NOTICE that you are falling out of your too small swimsuit? I think you are entirely unrealistic. When you make a spectacle of yourself people are going to notice. You are going to get reactions and you KNOW that you will get reactions. It's precisely why you chose to wear what you did. Just ask the "People of Walmart" - they know they're weird and they don't care if you think they're trashy. They are who they are - so there!
You are moving the goalposts. It’s fine to notice. It’s fine to register and even judge.
It’s not fine to comment, leer, touch. It’s not fine to tell other people they can’t show their bodies because you can’t control your reaction to their bodies.
But people will comment and they will react. If I paint myself purple from head to toe and go for a jog around the block people are going notice me, they will react and they'll probably say "WTF??". They may point at me and say to their neighbor "What on earth!?!" Some might do a double take and find themselves gawking in amazement....
Why? Because I have very purposely drawn attention to myself - LOOK AT MEEEE!!!!
When you make a spectacle of yourself you get the reactions that you get.
People with couth simply look away. It's in poor taste to visibly react to others' appearance, positive or negative.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't want my 16 year old kid to get tattoos all over their body, either. If they get to adulthood and decide to tattoo their entire arm or even their face there won't be a thing I can do about it. Same goes with tongue, eyebrow and nose piercing - nope. Not having it.
People are free to do all sorts of things when they are adults. 16 is not an adult and, yes, parents still have a say in what they do, where they go, what they wear. In fact, it is their parental duty to watch over, guide and look out for their teenager.
So no bikinis, no yoga pants, no volleyball shorts?
No THONGS/bare azzes on public display. That is what this thread is about. And if your kid's shorts or whatever else they are wearing is so revealing that she is flashing herself - yeah, pick a different pair of shorts. Or sit back and let your child become a "Person of Walmart". Just don't expect anyone to be impressed by you or your kid.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This thread is ridiculous.
Please worry about other important things. Stop shaming women.
Who cares what someone else wears?
Women will be the downfall of women.....
Because women wearing this type of clothing encourages objectifying ALL women. Men prefer for women to wear less clothing so some women wearing less clothing makes the standard that ALL women should go to the pool or beach this way.
Young girls wearing this type of clothing sexualizes young girls and signals to men “look at me in a sexual way because I am showing off my ass and boobs.” This in turn encourages men to sexualize all young girls, which is wrong.
Nah. They objectify themselves and themselves only - which they are free to do that if that is what they want to do. I, personally, would not want that kind of attention nor would I want the judgment that comes along with it.
They are not objectifying themselves.
You are objectifying then and you are an apologist for a generation of kavenaugh men who are not expected to control themselves.
No one thinks men shouldn't be able to control themselves. But of course heterosexual men are going to be turned on by seeing an attractive female with a good body in a skimpy bikini that shows her entire ass. iAnd it's the entire reason that women choose to wear these types of suits. It's not something a parent should allow a 16 year old to wear.
People—of all genders and sexualities—get turned on all the time.
Why is it that we put responsibility for straight men’s inability/unwillingness to manage their sexual attraction on girls/women? Why are our standards for straight men so low? Why don’t we expect them to manage their urges the way we expect everyone else to?
Why is this the fault/responsibility of girls and women?
So you think that teenage boys should be wearing thongs to the beach, too, and that any woman/girl who looks at them are rapey perverts?
I think people should wear what they want and that other people should be able to control their responses. The only people who seem to have trouble controlling their responses—indeed, the only people anyone on this thread is worried about protecting girls from—are straight men.
So I wouldn’t worry about teen boys in thongs because I wouldn’t expect anyone to make them feel unsafe or as if they are pieces of meat. Society accepts that behavior only from straight men targeting women.
So you expect people to NOT NOTICE that you are falling out of your too small swimsuit? I think you are entirely unrealistic. When you make a spectacle of yourself people are going to notice. You are going to get reactions and you KNOW that you will get reactions. It's precisely why you chose to wear what you did. Just ask the "People of Walmart" - they know they're weird and they don't care if you think they're trashy. They are who they are - so there!
You are moving the goalposts. It’s fine to notice. It’s fine to register and even judge.
It’s not fine to comment, leer, touch. It’s not fine to tell other people they can’t show their bodies because you can’t control your reaction to their bodies.
But people will comment and they will react. If I paint myself purple from head to toe and go for a jog around the block people are going notice me, they will react and they'll probably say "WTF??". They may point at me and say to their neighbor "What on earth!?!" Some might do a double take and find themselves gawking in amazement....
Why? Because I have very purposely drawn attention to myself - LOOK AT MEEEE!!!!
When you make a spectacle of yourself you get the reactions that you get.