Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inquirer.com/education/kamala-harris-longer-school-day-plan-20191107.html%3foutputType=amp
Keep schools open 10 hours a day? Kamala Harris wants to align student and work schedules.

Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Kamala Harris has proposed a 10-hour day for students to align school with work schedules — a pitch she says is intended to ease the burden on working parents.

The Californian’s plan, introduced Wednesday, would extend the day — though not necessarily classes — in 500 schools nationwide by awarding five-year grants of up to $5 million to elementary schools with a large share of low-income students.

And we think we have issues NOW recruiting & retaining teachers? She's an idiot.

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Anonymous wrote:This is sad.

I don’t get the people up in arms about school not being daycare. Historically, school has always been a place to warehouse kids while parents work. In the beginning it was factory work and now it mostly in offices. It has very little to do with learning and social mobility. A valedictorian from a poor school district will still grow up to be poor.

School is daycare, it has always been daycare, maybe someday in the future it can be something else. One can hope.

Yes, precisely.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be done for the benefit of the parents and not the children. Let's be honest about that at least.

100% yes.

+1. Nobody is talking about what would be best for the CHILDREN! Yes, sure, just leave them in jail, I mean, school for 10 hours !!!! a day. Who needs free time to be kids, to participate in family activities, to just be bored at home!?? Do you all really think it would be healthy for a kid to spend 10 hours in a building a day???

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This.

Really, do you want to be at work for that long? Maybe you do, but this is not what is best for the kids. The kids need a break and it’s not healthy mentally or physically to be stuck at school for 10 hours every day.

Isn’t what she is proposing really just after school child care and not extended class time per se? Kids aren’t participating in family activities if their parents aren’t home from work yet. It’s no different from my students who arrive at SACC (Fairfax County) at 7 am or get picked up from SACC at 7 pm because of their parents’ work schedules. While it might not be ideal at least they have the opportunity to play outside, do crafts and play games.

Anonymous wrote:This is sad.

I don’t get the people up in arms about school not being daycare. Historically, school has always been a place to warehouse kids while parents work. In the beginning it was factory work and now it mostly in offices. It has very little to do with learning and social mobility. A valedictorian from a poor school district will still grow up to be poor.

School is daycare, it has always been daycare, maybe someday in the future it can be something else. One can hope.

Anonymous wrote:Before and after care isn’t the problem. That’s already subsidized. If she really wants schools to help working families then please address all of the weather closures that are not really needed. SACC also adjusts their hours in the morning and this is horrible for working parents who rely on the 7am drop off. Fine with their is actual winter weather but most often there is no reason at all.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be done for the benefit of the parents and not the children. Let's be honest about that at least.

100% yes.

+1. Nobody is talking about what would be best for the CHILDREN! Yes, sure, just leave them in jail, I mean, school for 10 hours !!!! a day. Who needs free time to be kids, to participate in family activities, to just be bored at home!?? Do you all really think it would be healthy for a kid to spend 10 hours in a building a day???

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This.

Really, do you want to be at work for that long? Maybe you do, but this is not what is best for the kids. The kids need a break and it’s not healthy mentally or physically to be stuck at school for 10 hours every day.

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Anonymous wrote:I work in a high FARMS school. The majority of students have at least one adult in the home that stays home and doesn't work. Sometimes it's mom, sometimes it's dad, sometimes it's an older sibling, sometimes it's a grandma or grandpa or another member of the extended family. Sometimes the working parent works at night and the only time they get to see their child is the time between when the child gets home from school and the parent needs to go to work. Very few families at my school work 9-5 jobs. This is something that is really not aimed at low income families. As it is typical in education, the people making the decisions know jack sh*t about the realities of schools.

true

In my 20+ years in a large system, the mother or the grandmother is home. Or there's an aunt or an older sibling.

We sometimes think money grows on trees. This will run out eventually. And even if the young teachers - looking for extra income - step in, there won't be enough of them to handle the numbers. So they'll have to outsource. translation - more $

Have you seen some of the after-school programs? We think we have problems now with abuse, well, think again. MCPS has already lowered the criteria for hiring subs. And teacher certification is a joke, especially with the Praxis. So you can imagine who will be with these kids - many who misbehave simply b/c they're damn tired.

a recipe for disaster

But who am I but a lowly educator . . .

Kamala is an idiot who doesn't understand that money runs out.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be done for the benefit of the parents and not the children. Let's be honest about that at least.

100% yes.

+1. Nobody is talking about what would be best for the CHILDREN! Yes, sure, just leave them in jail, I mean, school for 10 hours !!!! a day. Who needs free time to be kids, to participate in family activities, to just be bored at home!?? Do you all really think it would be healthy for a kid to spend 10 hours in a building a day???

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Anonymous wrote:I work in a high FARMS school. The majority of students have at least one adult in the home that stays home and doesn't work. Sometimes it's mom, sometimes it's dad, sometimes it's an older sibling, sometimes it's a grandma or grandpa or another member of the extended family. Sometimes the working parent works at night and the only time they get to see their child is the time between when the child gets home from school and the parent needs to go to work. Very few families at my school work 9-5 jobs. This is something that is really not aimed at low income families. As it is typical in education, the people making the decisions know jack sh*t about the realities of schools.

Anonymous wrote:With compressed work weeks and telecommuting at an all time high, is there really a demand for this? Maybe a few counties here and there, but overall?

I feel like there are bigger fish to fry. Why not tackle international policy instead? Put forth an environmental initiative? Find a way to reach across the aisle (gasp!).

All these candidates with these weak (and distracting) "ideas" are just beating behind the bush of real world problems.

Anonymous wrote:Our school is open 11 hours per day when you factor in extended day

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Anonymous wrote:It would be done for the benefit of the parents and not the children. Let's be honest about that at least.

100% yes.

+1. Nobody is talking about what would be best for the CHILDREN! Yes, sure, just leave them in jail, I mean, school for 10 hours !!!! a day. Who needs free time to be kids, to participate in family activities, to just be bored at home!?? Do you all really think it would be healthy for a kid to spend 10 hours in a building a day???

This isn’t aimed at UMC kids that go home to a safe neighborhood and food on the table.
It’s geared towards kids that live in low income areas. Going home usually means going home to a parent or sibling that is drunk or high, with no supervision, no help with homework, etc. I see these kids daily. Unbathed, dirty clothes. Living off the free breakfast and lunch. Our schools sends home bagged lunches on weekends for the poor kids. They provide coats and hats and gloves.
But the school can only do so much. 30 hours out of week they are in warm, safe environment. It’s not much.

Anonymous wrote:With her plan, is the entire day mandatory or can you pick up after the academic day is done? Will busses run for both the end of the academic day and then again for the end or the after school care?