Anonymous
04/23/2025 10:55
Subject: Re:Hebrew names for non-Jewish family?
Anonymous wrote:[/quoteAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yael (pronounced Yale) is one of my favorite names. We aren’t Jewish snd I’m still going to use it.
Pronounced as "Ya- ale" - not Yale. No one will say "Yale."
I'm Jewish and I have never heard Yael pronounced as Yale
I would assume a non-Jew with a Biblical name is Evangelical - and would probably therefore infer all sorts of political and cultural things about them
If that's the message you are trying to convey, or if that's who you are, go for it!
You would assume that about any non-Jew with a Biblical name, or just an uncommon one.
You really make political inferences about kids with names like Daniel and Joshua?
Why does the name being popular, make less assumptions for you, than a less popular name like, say, Levi?
No, not Daniel or Joshua. I don't make any assumptions about a kid with such a popular name.
It's the uncommon Old Testament names that would raise those assumptions.
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I know lots of non Jews named Levi.
Anonymous
04/23/2025 10:54
Subject: Re:Hebrew names for non-Jewish family?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yael (pronounced Yale) is one of my favorite names. We aren’t Jewish snd I’m still going to use it.
Pronounced as "Ya- ale" - not Yale. No one will say "Yale."
I'm Jewish and I have never heard Yael pronounced as Yale
I would assume a non-Jew with a Biblical name is Evangelical - and would probably therefore infer all sorts of political and cultural things about them
If that's the message you are trying to convey, or if that's who you are, go for it!
That’s kind of a stupid assumption in the modern day. I know people of all religions, ethnicities, and political affiliations w biblical names. Many/most people pick names because they like the way they sound. I know a Muslim kid named Jonah and an atheist family with a kid named Sarah. So what?
Anonymous
04/23/2025 10:52
Subject: Re:Hebrew names for non-Jewish family?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yael (pronounced Yale) is one of my favorite names. We aren’t Jewish snd I’m still going to use it.
That's not how I was told it was pronounced
YI. EL
Agree. You don’t pronounce it yale.
Yael Braun. Founder of F*ck Cancer and Motherlucker, married to music mogul Scooter Braun, pronounces Yael as Yale. Always has.
Do I guess some do pronounce it take.
Is this like Colin Powell where everyone but, him pronounces it correctly ie Col lin versus the part of your body? Col on?
It’s not an incorrect pronunciation if that’s YOUR name you can pronounce it however you want.
Anonymous
04/23/2025 10:48
Subject: Re:Hebrew names for non-Jewish family?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yael (pronounced Yale) is one of my favorite names. We aren’t Jewish snd I’m still going to use it.
Pronounced as "Ya- ale" - not Yale. No one will say "Yale."
Sure they will. If that’s how it’s pronounced by the person w the name/their parents. Plus it’s how most people probably think it’s pronounced anyway just by looking at it. Most wint know it’s supposed to be ya-ale.
Anonymous
04/23/2025 10:44
Subject: Hebrew names for non-Jewish family?
My sister's name is Jessica. We aren't Jewish. It's fine to use whatever name you want, but I would consider anglicizing it as others have mentioned.
Anonymous
04/23/2025 09:42
Subject: Hebrew names for non-Jewish family?
I’m a happy Presbyterian convert raised Catholic by a Methodist mother and Catholic father. A twice great grandfather was a traveling Lutheran minister but extensive family research shows the Lutheran line was originally Jewish in the old country. Most recent immigrant was my Irish great grandmother who arrived circa 1918 - she is legendary in our family for her bravery, independence and strength (arrived solo as a teenager).
My 4DC have names that reflect our unique heritage; I nearly used Ari and Asher but DH vetoed in favor of a more common first name.
My 4DC have names that reflect our unique heritage; I nearly used Ari and Asher but DH vetoed in favor of a more common first name.
Anonymous
04/23/2025 09:13
Subject: Hebrew names for non-Jewish family?
Anonymous wrote:Aidel isn't Hebrew, it's Yiddish. I would find it very odd to use a Yiddish name on a non-Jewish person. Aidel is basically used only by Orthodox people. Ultra-Orthodox, in fact. It's in the same category as Faiga, Raizel, Genendel, Fruma, etc.
Go with Adele or Adelaide or something.
This is funny
My grandmother had a Yiddish name and we are not Jewish.
I know Jewish persons who have English and even Swedish names and are not from that culture
Anonymous
10/15/2019 18:13
Subject: Hebrew names for non-Jewish family?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How on earth do you know if someone is Irish? A ton of white Americans have Irish ancestry. Maybe the mother's family is Irish? Or are you only allowed to have first names that match the father's ethnicity?
Have you ever seen Irish people? I recently met a friend's relative traveling from Ireland, and I was like "Hello, person who looks exactly like me and all my sisters!" A huge proportion of US Irish people immigrated all at the same time from the same counties during the Potato Famine, so yeah, there's often a very characteristic look.
You have to be joking. Beyond being racist, that isn't even true. I'm tall, dark hair and brown eyes and half Irish.
It's racist to say that people of a similar ancestry look alike? Ok ... obviously many Irish Americans don't look like each other due to intermarriage, but there's absolutely a resemblance for many. It seems more racist to say that Irish people can't have common features but other ethnicities can. That implies that white people are just "white" whereas other people have defining characteristics related to their heritage.
Anonymous
10/15/2019 17:35
Subject: Hebrew names for non-Jewish family?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How on earth do you know if someone is Irish? A ton of white Americans have Irish ancestry. Maybe the mother's family is Irish? Or are you only allowed to have first names that match the father's ethnicity?
Have you ever seen Irish people? I recently met a friend's relative traveling from Ireland, and I was like "Hello, person who looks exactly like me and all my sisters!" A huge proportion of US Irish people immigrated all at the same time from the same counties during the Potato Famine, so yeah, there's often a very characteristic look.
You have to be joking. Beyond being racist, that isn't even true. I'm tall, dark hair and brown eyes and half Irish.
Anonymous
10/15/2019 15:08
Subject: Hebrew names for non-Jewish family?
Anonymous wrote:How on earth do you know if someone is Irish? A ton of white Americans have Irish ancestry. Maybe the mother's family is Irish? Or are you only allowed to have first names that match the father's ethnicity?
Have you ever seen Irish people? I recently met a friend's relative traveling from Ireland, and I was like "Hello, person who looks exactly like me and all my sisters!" A huge proportion of US Irish people immigrated all at the same time from the same counties during the Potato Famine, so yeah, there's often a very characteristic look.
Anonymous
10/15/2019 11:47
Subject: Hebrew names for non-Jewish family?
How on earth do you know if someone is Irish? A ton of white Americans have Irish ancestry. Maybe the mother's family is Irish? Or are you only allowed to have first names that match the father's ethnicity?
Anonymous
10/15/2019 10:41
Subject: Hebrew names for non-Jewish family?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How do the Jewish people who think it’s weird feel when people use Irish names? Think: Sinead or Siobhan Rosenblatt. Ok? What about Sinead or Siobhan Jackson...and the Jacksons are black.
PP Jewish person who thinks it's weird when non-Jews use Jewish names: I roll my eyes at all the Irish-named non-Irish children. There are just so many of them that at some point I've come to accept: people just like Irish names. It seems like among a certain group of kids born in the 2000s, Irish names are neutral of cultural association.
Funny enough, I have some kids in my life who were born to parents who are a mix of Portuguese, German, Puerto Rican, and Jewish - and all of those kids have very Irish names. What can you do.
If Jewish names headed in that direction - stripped of cultural association or meaning - I'd be weirded out, I think. But, hey, maybe it would also lead to less anti-semitism - and we'd all take that, nu?
What do Irish people - whether from Ireland or just family history - think pf Irish names being so popular?
I think there's a difference between very culturally Irish-Catholic/American Irish names like Patrick, Francis, and Mary Catherine; and names that are Irish but not common in the US, like Aoife, Nuala, and Seamus. For the former -- yeah, I would be a bit weirded out to meed a Jewish Francis Xavier. For the latter, I would think it was a little odd, but not as culturally tone-deaf. And then, some of the Irish names have also been normalized as American secular names too, like Brian, Sean, and Ryan, and now Declan and Finnian. So those seem like fair game for anyone.
I'm the PP - and I'm talking about the Connors, and the Aileens, and the Aidens, and Kylies. Not Ryan or Francis, which I think have been more "secularized" as it were. I think of these other Irish names as being the Brittany and Madison and Jayden of today. Like I think 15 years from now we will see a lot of politicians named Kylie and Connor, but no one will be naming their kids that.
Anonymous
10/15/2019 10:39
Subject: Hebrew names for non-Jewish family?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What’s the overall opinion?
We aren’t Jewish but like the name Eidel.
Obviously many non-Jewish people name their children Hannah, Rebecca, Elijah and Ezra but what about names like Adira? Shoshannah?
Eidel is on the unusual side
How about Eileen
Eidel is actually pronounced Aydl, like Edelweiss. I would spell it Edel or Adel, because your daughter is going to have a lifetime of people mispronouncing it.
If I met a kid named Edel or Adel - both very pretty! - I'd think they had a German background, not necessarily Jewish.
Hi - yes, I am aware. But certain German-sounding names don't necessarily read as Jewish, whereas others do.
True of most Yiddish names, since Yiddish is a German dialect.
Anonymous
10/15/2019 10:39
Subject: Hebrew names for non-Jewish family?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How do the Jewish people who think it’s weird feel when people use Irish names? Think: Sinead or Siobhan Rosenblatt. Ok? What about Sinead or Siobhan Jackson...and the Jacksons are black.
PP Jewish person who thinks it's weird when non-Jews use Jewish names: I roll my eyes at all the Irish-named non-Irish children. There are just so many of them that at some point I've come to accept: people just like Irish names. It seems like among a certain group of kids born in the 2000s, Irish names are neutral of cultural association.
Funny enough, I have some kids in my life who were born to parents who are a mix of Portuguese, German, Puerto Rican, and Jewish - and all of those kids have very Irish names. What can you do.
If Jewish names headed in that direction - stripped of cultural association or meaning - I'd be weirded out, I think. But, hey, maybe it would also lead to less anti-semitism - and we'd all take that, nu?
What do Irish people - whether from Ireland or just family history - think pf Irish names being so popular?
I think the parents are trendy and roll my eyes at them. I roll them twice if the birth announcement comes with a pronunciation guide.
But I do love to correctly announce their toddler's name and watch how crestfallen they look. It's like they see the "no one will know how to pronounce it" warnings not as people saying their kid will be inconvenienced, but rather as proof they'll be the 'smart one' on the playground among other parents - constantly getting to correct people. IME they hate it when this is taken away.
Anonymous
10/15/2019 10:06
Subject: Hebrew names for non-Jewish family?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How do the Jewish people who think it’s weird feel when people use Irish names? Think: Sinead or Siobhan Rosenblatt. Ok? What about Sinead or Siobhan Jackson...and the Jacksons are black.
PP Jewish person who thinks it's weird when non-Jews use Jewish names: I roll my eyes at all the Irish-named non-Irish children. There are just so many of them that at some point I've come to accept: people just like Irish names. It seems like among a certain group of kids born in the 2000s, Irish names are neutral of cultural association.
Funny enough, I have some kids in my life who were born to parents who are a mix of Portuguese, German, Puerto Rican, and Jewish - and all of those kids have very Irish names. What can you do.
If Jewish names headed in that direction - stripped of cultural association or meaning - I'd be weirded out, I think. But, hey, maybe it would also lead to less anti-semitism - and we'd all take that, nu?
What do Irish people - whether from Ireland or just family history - think pf Irish names being so popular?
I think there's a difference between very culturally Irish-Catholic/American Irish names like Patrick, Francis, and Mary Catherine; and names that are Irish but not common in the US, like Aoife, Nuala, and Seamus. For the former -- yeah, I would be a bit weirded out to meed a Jewish Francis Xavier. For the latter, I would think it was a little odd, but not as culturally tone-deaf. And then, some of the Irish names have also been normalized as American secular names too, like Brian, Sean, and Ryan, and now Declan and Finnian. So those seem like fair game for anyone.
None of these are Irish names. Just saints.
Huh? They are absolutely culturally Irish Catholic/American Irish names. If you mean Irish as in "Irish language" or "used in Ireland," I refer to you to the latter category.