If you know what small schools offer (even for science majors), I am actually amazed that people prefer a huge school, with huge classes and where kids get little individual attention.

I can’t tell you how many cool things have already happened at my kid’s small, second tier, LAC: History of Food teacher cooking dinner for the class (of 19), advisor to the Wildlife Society taking the kids out one Saturday night in the spring to find frogs and the like. My kid loves it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AP/honors = university track. If you’re not in that track you’re not university material. The rigor in non-AP/honors is a flat out joke and several years behind the university bound kiddos.

Of course you don’t want to hear this, you’re in denial, you’ll cling to the fake A’s, and you’ll send junior off to some open door degree mill anyways for your ego. Then you’ll keep it hush hush when he fails out.

Sigh. Okay so, here we go...high school achievement means little. It has nothing to do with being "university material" or someones career or intellectual potential. It DOES impact where you are accepted, but not what you do with it. I am the AP, straight A, honors, etc in my family and achieved a solid dual bachelor degree, but that is it; my interest in school waned. Both my siblings, one of whom barely got in college, neither of whom had AP's, no EC's, etc, both have PHD's and are very very well respected in their field.

Me and my brother's story. My brother did not even get a 3.0 in high school. 2.8 at best. He was in advanced classes but not AP. Went to open admission state school and flipped a switch. Straight As. Then he transfered to a better state school. Then IVY law and an amazing career.

I was an overachiver early but puttered out. Made it to grad school and a so so career. But mostly meh. I do think if I had gone to a small liberal arts no name college rather than a top state school things may have been different. But who knows.

On teh otehr hand, I may be happier than my brother. Certianly I have fewer anger issues. But none of that is measured or cared about on dcum. In terms of high-power career and money, my C+ in high school brother is miles ahead of me,

Anonymous wrote:Class of 2018 DS with <4.0 WGPA and 1360 SAT. Got into Pitt, Wisconsin (legacy), Sewanee, JMU, GMU, CNU - going to JMU and doing very well.

+1. Encouraged. Would love if my kid went to Wisconsin. Great school. My niece and nephew are there and they grew up in Minneapolis area - reciprocal tuition. They are getting a great education. Nephew has a job once he graduates.

Anonymous wrote:Binghamton
Geneseo
Miami at Ohio
Townson (sp?)
Penn State
Cornell
Emory
U of FL

Uh, what? Cornell? Florida? You're on crack.

Anonymous wrote:My kid with 2 APs, 3.45 wGPA and 30 ACT was accepted at Indiana and University of Minnesota. They ended up going to a different OOS school (a little lower ranked than these two) that offered merit. We've been paying less than $35K and the school has been a great fit.

This one actually didn't applying to any in-state options, but I'm not sure they would have gotten in to any of JMU, GMU, Tech, etc., from their particular high school.

+1. These are both good, solid schools with wonderful programs. I am happy to read this post. So sick of reading about people who are only shooting for "top 20" colleges. It isn't happening for us. I can already predict it with my kid, who hates the stress of it all, but is still a good student.

Anonymous wrote:Read Colleges that Change Lives, for liberal arts options with small classes and lots of faculty attention.

Kalamazoo College, New College of Florida, Truman State University, Knox College, Augustana College

Anonymous wrote:Out of state colleges like University of Delaware, Penn State, Indiana University, Ohio State.....

Arizona State University. Great programs, not hard to get into, great town to go to college in

My daughter just started at University of Denver on a merit scholarship - she did have some AP classes, so maybe your son wouldn't get merit. But it's a solid school, seems like a lot of fun, in Denver where she wants to live. I think it will give her the network she needs to find a decent job in Denver provided that's what she wants.

Some really nuts posters in this thread trying to justify their own choices, I think. There are literally hundreds of millions of "average" people in this country and many of them are doing just fine.

Read Colleges that Change Lives, for liberal arts options with small classes and lots of faculty attention.

Off track, but it would be impossible to finish a rigorous STEM degree (engineering) in 4 years without the APs. Literally impossible.

Fun colleges he will likely get into?
Ole Miss
U of Colorado

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AP/honors = university track. If you’re not in that track you’re not university material. The rigor in non-AP/honors is a flat out joke and several years behind the university bound kiddos.

Of course you don’t want to hear this, you’re in denial, you’ll cling to the fake A’s, and you’ll send junior off to some open door degree mill anyways for your ego. Then you’ll keep it hush hush when he fails out.

Well that's made up.

+1
Who are these (supposed) parents and why are they lying? I have two in college and this is just not the case at all.

+1, totally made up
Independent schools in DC are phasing out APs altogether.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2018/06/18/several-well-known-private-schools-in-the-d-c-area-are-scrapping-advanced-placement-classes/%3foutputType=amp

Guess are those Sidwell, Holton Arms, NCS, GDS, etc. kids aren’t going to college.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Binghamton
Geneseo
Miami at Ohio
Townson (sp?)
Penn State
Cornell
Emory
U of FL

No

What "normal" kids go there that you know of PP?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AP/honors = university track. If you’re not in that track you’re not university material. The rigor in non-AP/honors is a flat out joke and several years behind the university bound kiddos.

Of course you don’t want to hear this, you’re in denial, you’ll cling to the fake A’s, and you’ll send junior off to some open door degree mill anyways for your ego. Then you’ll keep it hush hush when he fails out.

Well that's made up.

+1
Who are these (supposed) parents and why are they lying? I have two in college and this is just not the case at all.

Anonymous wrote:AP/honors = university track. If you’re not in that track you’re not university material. The rigor in non-AP/honors is a flat out joke and several years behind the university bound kiddos.

Of course you don’t want to hear this, you’re in denial, you’ll cling to the fake A’s, and you’ll send junior off to some open door degree mill anyways for your ego. Then you’ll keep it hush hush when he fails out.

Well that's made up.