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Sorry, but the teachers don't even work a full 8 hours a day and have multiple hours within that, to work on lesson plans and grade. No other job gives days off to catch up on work. I am glad they finally got rid of the full days off (when the parking lots were empty anyway) but the half days need to go too. Like the PP said above, they have multiple 4 day weeks in the beginning of the year too.

1. You're not sorry.
2. This argument is so overdone and has been disproven so many times. Have you been a public school teacher? If not, you have no idea what kind, or what amount, of "unseen" work teaching requires. You're not in a position to measure how much is enough.

This year, September has two holidays, which are paid holidays. Are you advocating that teachers should work on holidays that are supposed to be days off?

How has it been disproven?

I thought about after the PP's comment, and I am not sure how middle school works, but in ES a teacher gets about 1 hour and 10 minutes for lunch/recess combo. They get another 50-60min for a daily special. So the school day is 6 hours and 25min and 2 hours of that is not with the kids. So they work directly with the kids for about 4 to 4.5 hours a day.

High School teachers get the lunch period off, and they have minimum 2 more periods of no time with kids.

So why can't teachers work on things during that time. Why do they need the half days. What do they do? There are no comments on report cards anymore. There is one 10 minute conference in November.

I work about 9 hours a day minimum and still sometimes bring work to home. As do most people I know. I also 100% catch up on days like Labor Day and I definitely don't get Jewish holidays off. I mean who is celebrating these paid holidays anyway. Besides the 7% Jewish community on one day. Who is celebrating Labor Day. LOL

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Sorry, but the teachers don't even work a full 8 hours a day and have multiple hours within that, to work on lesson plans and grade. No other job gives days off to catch up on work. I am glad they finally got rid of the full days off (when the parking lots were empty anyway) but the half days need to go too. Like the PP said above, they have multiple 4 day weeks in the beginning of the year too.

1. You're not sorry.
2. This argument is so overdone and has been disproven so many times. Have you been a public school teacher? If not, you have no idea what kind, or what amount, of "unseen" work teaching requires. You're not in a position to measure how much is enough.

This year, September has two holidays, which are paid holidays. Are you advocating that teachers should work on holidays that are supposed to be days off?

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NP
Sorry, but the teachers don't even work a full 8 hours a day and have multiple hours within that, to work on lesson plans and grade. No other job gives days off to catch up on work. I am glad they finally got rid of the full days off (when the parking lots were empty anyway) but the half days need to go too. Like the PP said above, they have multiple 4 day weeks in the beginning of the year too.

Gosh, teaching jobs are so cushy, people must be flocking to become teachers!

Wait, you mean they're not? How can that be?

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Anonymous wrote:Options 2 and 3 both have 4 day weeks for four out the first six weeks. I am sorry, but that is pathetic.

Check again. All three calendars have two 4-day weeks in the first six weeks (with Labor Day and Sept. 28 off). They also all have an early-release day in week 5 (either Oct. 2 or 9). Options 2 and 3 have an additional early release day the Friday before Labor Day.

Also, all the calendars show September as having 31 days, although this is corrected by having both Sept. 31 and Oct. 1 be on a Thursday. Interesting calendar!

Option 1 has 3 of the first 6 weeks with 4 days and really, that random 1/2 day needs to just go away. In every single option.

Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's random. The early release days in week 5 of each quarter are for teachers to have more time to get all the assignments graded in time for interim reports. You may not like this reason, but it isn't random.

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Sorry, but the teachers don't even work a full 8 hours a day and have multiple hours within that, to work on lesson plans and grade. No other job gives days off to catch up on work. I am glad they finally got rid of the full days off (when the parking lots were empty anyway) but the half days need to go too. Like the PP said above, they have multiple 4 day weeks in the beginning of the year too.

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Anonymous wrote:Options 2 and 3 both have 4 day weeks for four out the first six weeks. I am sorry, but that is pathetic.

Check again. All three calendars have two 4-day weeks in the first six weeks (with Labor Day and Sept. 28 off). They also all have an early-release day in week 5 (either Oct. 2 or 9). Options 2 and 3 have an additional early release day the Friday before Labor Day.

Also, all the calendars show September as having 31 days, although this is corrected by having both Sept. 31 and Oct. 1 be on a Thursday. Interesting calendar!

Option 1 has 3 of the first 6 weeks with 4 days and really, that random 1/2 day needs to just go away. In every single option.

Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's random. The early release days in week 5 of each quarter are for teachers to have more time to get all the assignments graded in time for interim reports. You may not like this reason, but it isn't random.

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Anonymous wrote:Options 2 and 3 both have 4 day weeks for four out the first six weeks. I am sorry, but that is pathetic.

Check again. All three calendars have two 4-day weeks in the first six weeks (with Labor Day and Sept. 28 off). They also all have an early-release day in week 5 (either Oct. 2 or 9). Options 2 and 3 have an additional early release day the Friday before Labor Day.

Also, all the calendars show September as having 31 days, although this is corrected by having both Sept. 31 and Oct. 1 be on a Thursday. Interesting calendar!

MCPS finest!!! Honestly. Almost every one of their homework pages has errors too. Nothing new here. We just keep copying up the same crap and wasting trees on nonsense. It is the MCPS way.

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Anonymous wrote:Options 2 and 3 both have 4 day weeks for four out the first six weeks. I am sorry, but that is pathetic.

Check again. All three calendars have two 4-day weeks in the first six weeks (with Labor Day and Sept. 28 off). They also all have an early-release day in week 5 (either Oct. 2 or 9). Options 2 and 3 have an additional early release day the Friday before Labor Day.

Also, all the calendars show September as having 31 days, although this is corrected by having both Sept. 31 and Oct. 1 be on a Thursday. Interesting calendar!

Option 1 has 3 of the first 6 weeks with 4 days and really, that random 1/2 day needs to just go away. In every single option.

Anonymous wrote:Options 2 and 3 both have 4 day weeks for four out the first six weeks. I am sorry, but that is pathetic.

Check again. All three calendars have two 4-day weeks in the first six weeks (with Labor Day and Sept. 28 off). They also all have an early-release day in week 5 (either Oct. 2 or 9). Options 2 and 3 have an additional early release day the Friday before Labor Day.

Also, all the calendars show September as having 31 days, although this is corrected by having both Sept. 31 and Oct. 1 be on a Thursday. Interesting calendar!

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Anonymous wrote:I like the 8/31 start. I don't see much advantage to starting on Tuesday when Monday is not Labor Day.

You are clearly not a teacher or student.
Starting the year on a five day week is brutal for both.

Options 2 and 3 both have 4 day weeks for four out the first six weeks. I am sorry, but that is pathetic.

Anonymous wrote:I like the 8/31 start. I don't see much advantage to starting on Tuesday when Monday is not Labor Day.

You are clearly not a teacher or student.
Starting the year on a five day week is brutal for both.

I do not think that school will start after Labor Day. Sept. 8 is extremely late. I think that that option was thrown in just to show the absurdity.

Not a popular vote, but 1 would work great for us.

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Anonymous wrote:If Inauguration Day is a day off, then the Tuesday beforehand should be as well.

Yes. Everyone seemed to be in agreement on that.

Except that option 1 has Monday (MLK) and Wednesday (Inauguration) off, but not Tuesday. But most people here don't seem to like that option.

Because that option doesn't start until Sept 8, since Labor Day is so late. Although I guess that would give families a chance to hit Disney World during the "low crowd" season.

Not necessarily the BoE's first priority in setting the calendar for the school system.

I beg to differ. "Let summer be summer," remember?

That wasn't BoE, that was Franchot, and hitting Disney World in early September doesn't help the Ocean City Chamber of Commerce anyway.

By the way, Franchot is floating the idea of running for governor.