Anonymous
Post 09/24/2019 09:11     Subject: Re:Pro-tips for Soccer "managers"?

A more optimistic view of what parental participation in youth sports (and other civic activities) can resemble: https://www.economist.com/united-states/2019/08/01/what-the-mighty-dolphins-say-about-america

In my view, people should participate as much as they want. It helps for the TM to make that explicit for those who don't know so others are not discouraged from helping. On things like car pooling, while it is not their obligation to arrange, it can certainly be useful for them to serve as facilitator and information conduit.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2019 08:14     Subject: Re:Pro-tips for Soccer "managers"?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Former manager here. I knew who was broke, who was in the middle of a divorce, which kids were in academic trouble, who was an illegal immigrant, etc. I certainly did not plan to learn all this, nor did I want to, but it came with the volunteer position. If you cannot keep your mouth shut, you should not be doing this job.


Agreed but PP was not talking about personal or financial issues the TM shared. The parent complained to the TM about the coach and wanted to seek alternatives or supplementary training for the girls.


You don’t share any of it, ever.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2019 00:22     Subject: Pro-tips for Soccer "managers"?

Anonymous wrote:Should a TM sit on the sidelines with the coach? Ours does and she is constantly sharing her views of what they see and what the coach tells the kids. She knows zero about soccer but pretends she does. In past clubs parents sit with parents no exceptions.


The TM is allowed to sit on the player sideline with the coach but most only do it during checkin before the game.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2019 00:20     Subject: Re:Pro-tips for Soccer "managers"?

Anonymous wrote:Former manager here. I knew who was broke, who was in the middle of a divorce, which kids were in academic trouble, who was an illegal immigrant, etc. I certainly did not plan to learn all this, nor did I want to, but it came with the volunteer position. If you cannot keep your mouth shut, you should not be doing this job.


Agreed but PP was not talking about personal or financial issues the TM shared. The parent complained to the TM about the coach and wanted to seek alternatives or supplementary training for the girls.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2019 00:10     Subject: Re:Pro-tips for Soccer "managers"?

Former manager here. I knew who was broke, who was in the middle of a divorce, which kids were in academic trouble, who was an illegal immigrant, etc. I certainly did not plan to learn all this, nor did I want to, but it came with the volunteer position. If you cannot keep your mouth shut, you should not be doing this job.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2019 23:46     Subject: Pro-tips for Soccer "managers"?

Should a TM sit on the sidelines with the coach? Ours does and she is constantly sharing her views of what they see and what the coach tells the kids. She knows zero about soccer but pretends she does. In past clubs parents sit with parents no exceptions.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2019 22:02     Subject: Re:Pro-tips for Soccer "managers"?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The manager should have just kept the conversation to herself. How hard is that to understand?


It was not a conversation. It was an email with no opportunity for them to converse. Email is the worst possible way to communicate sensitive issues. The parent should have known better and should not expect a manager to be her confidant.


And how does the team know all about this?


It hasn’t been widely shared...two parents at most plus the coach.


Two parents to many.

Your manager sucks. I know you don’t like the particular parent but frankly none of you should know about this at all. A manager should show discretion and tact. If she talks about the parent behind their back she’ll talk about you behind yours.


As was said earlier, you must be one of “those” parents


+1


How was the parents email any of YOUR business?
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2019 22:00     Subject: Re:Pro-tips for Soccer "managers"?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The manager should have just kept the conversation to herself. How hard is that to understand?


It was not a conversation. It was an email with no opportunity for them to converse. Email is the worst possible way to communicate sensitive issues. The parent should have known better and should not expect a manager to be her confidant.


And how does the team know all about this?


It hasn’t been widely shared...two parents at most plus the coach.


Two parents to many.

Your manager sucks. I know you don’t like the particular parent but frankly none of you should know about this at all. A manager should show discretion and tact. If she talks about the parent behind their back she’ll talk about you behind yours.


As was said earlier, you must be one of “those” parents


+1
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2019 21:56     Subject: Re:Pro-tips for Soccer "managers"?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The manager should have just kept the conversation to herself. How hard is that to understand?


It was not a conversation. It was an email with no opportunity for them to converse. Email is the worst possible way to communicate sensitive issues. The parent should have known better and should not expect a manager to be her confidant.


And how does the team know all about this?


It hasn’t been widely shared...two parents at most plus the coach.


Two parents to many.

Your manager sucks. I know you don’t like the particular parent but frankly none of you should know about this at all. A manager should show discretion and tact. If she talks about the parent behind their back she’ll talk about you behind yours.


As was said earlier, you must be one of “those” parents


You have no real defense about the manager gossiping. Understood.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2019 21:49     Subject: Re:Pro-tips for Soccer "managers"?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The manager should have just kept the conversation to herself. How hard is that to understand?


It was not a conversation. It was an email with no opportunity for them to converse. Email is the worst possible way to communicate sensitive issues. The parent should have known better and should not expect a manager to be her confidant.


And how does the team know all about this?


It hasn’t been widely shared...two parents at most plus the coach.


Two parents to many.

Your manager sucks. I know you don’t like the particular parent but frankly none of you should know about this at all. A manager should show discretion and tact. If she talks about the parent behind their back she’ll talk about you behind yours.


As was said earlier, you must be one of “those” parents
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2019 21:45     Subject: Re:Pro-tips for Soccer "managers"?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The manager should have just kept the conversation to herself. How hard is that to understand?


It was not a conversation. It was an email with no opportunity for them to converse. Email is the worst possible way to communicate sensitive issues. The parent should have known better and should not expect a manager to be her confidant.


And how does the team know all about this?


It hasn’t been widely shared...two parents at most plus the coach.


Two parents to many.

Your manager sucks. I know you don’t like the particular parent but frankly none of you should know about this at all. A manager should show discretion and tact. If she talks about the parent behind their back she’ll talk about you behind yours.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2019 21:40     Subject: Re:Pro-tips for Soccer "managers"?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The manager should have just kept the conversation to herself. How hard is that to understand?


It was not a conversation. It was an email with no opportunity for them to converse. Email is the worst possible way to communicate sensitive issues. The parent should have known better and should not expect a manager to be her confidant.


And how does the team know all about this?


It hasn’t been widely shared...two parents at most plus the coach.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2019 21:37     Subject: Re:Pro-tips for Soccer "managers"?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The manager should have just kept the conversation to herself. How hard is that to understand?


It was not a conversation. It was an email with no opportunity for them to converse. Email is the worst possible way to communicate sensitive issues. The parent should have known better and should not expect a manager to be her confidant.


And how does the team know all about this?
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2019 21:28     Subject: Re:Pro-tips for Soccer "managers"?

Anonymous wrote:The manager should have just kept the conversation to herself. How hard is that to understand?


It was not a conversation. It was an email with no opportunity for them to converse. Email is the worst possible way to communicate sensitive issues. The parent should have known better and should not expect a manager to be her confidant.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2019 21:26     Subject: Re:Pro-tips for Soccer "managers"?

The manager should have just kept the conversation to herself. How hard is that to understand?