Anonymous
Post 07/19/2019 16:32     Subject: Re:Susan Collins is in trouble

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You don't understand her problem? The Dems played dirty pool. They wanted to convict Kavanaugh for being an assaulter without evidence. That put her in the position of defending justice.
They were trying to eliminate due process. Sure, this was in a hearing and not in a court. But, they were trying him publicly with no proof--and no evidence. To most American people, IMO, Blasey Ford appeared to be a flake.


+ a million.

And, flake or not, there was zero evidence. Further, whatever evidence existed, it contradicted her story, like those supposed witnesses who couldn't remember a single thing she was talking about.

Dems tried to resurrect the Inquisition and it backfired. I'm pretty confident this is one of the things that will help the GOP retain the Senate in 2020, whatever happens in the WH.


+ 2 million
Completely agree. Susan Collins has more integrity in her little finger than all of the Democratic senators combined. I was so moved and inspired by her words re: why she voted to confirm Kavanaugh. That "hearing" was little more than a carefully planned optic on the Democrats' part to try and condemn a man based on ONE 35+ year old allegation with no evidence. It was absurd. Kavanaugh has had a sterling career as a judge - and mentor to many, who has hired more minority and female clerks than ANY other justice, ever. And Democrats were hoping that ONE unfounded allegation from his high school years would prevent him from being confirmed. So pathetic and I will never forget the spectacle they put him through.

I'd vote for Susan Collins in a heartbeat if she was running for president. If only.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2019 15:37     Subject: Re:Susan Collins is in trouble

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You don't understand her problem? The Dems played dirty pool. They wanted to convict Kavanaugh for being an assaulter without evidence. That put her in the position of defending justice.
They were trying to eliminate due process. Sure, this was in a hearing and not in a court. But, they were trying him publicly with no proof--and no evidence. To most American people, IMO, Blasey Ford appeared to be a flake.


+1


Well than hardy Mainers probably saw right through it, right? Collins in a landslide!
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2019 15:35     Subject: Re:Susan Collins is in trouble

Anonymous wrote:You don't understand her problem? The Dems played dirty pool. They wanted to convict Kavanaugh for being an assaulter without evidence. That put her in the position of defending justice.
They were trying to eliminate due process. Sure, this was in a hearing and not in a court. But, they were trying him publicly with no proof--and no evidence. To most American people, IMO, Blasey Ford appeared to be a flake.


+1
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2019 14:07     Subject: Susan Collins is in trouble

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dem here - I am actually sad about this. It's not a good thing to have no moderate Rs.


Who cares if they call themselves moderate? Do we need more Gorsuches or Kavanaughs on the SC? The GOP has collapsed, and we don’t need any of them until they shape up.


+1. She still trying to call herself a moderate when she hasn’t been one in years. I think things changed when Snowe left.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2019 11:45     Subject: Susan Collins is in trouble

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Susan Collins’s Approval Rating Dives As Reelection Contest Approaches

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/susan-collins-approval-rating-dives-as-2020-approaches.html

For all the talk about the 2020 presidential contest, Democrats also know how important it is for them to take back control of the U.S. Senate — either to block a vengeful second-term President Trump from consummating his conquest of the federal judiciary, or to give a Democratic successor a fighting chance to get something done. But flipping the Senate next year will be really difficult, with Republicans currently holding 54 seats, and with one Democrat up next year, Doug Jones of Alabama, widely perceived as nearly a lost cause (unless Republicans again send up Roy Moore to take him on, which is unlikely). Most of the GOP senators up for reelection in 2020 are from solidly red states, which means that those who are not — particularly Susan Collins of Maine and Cory Gardner of Colorado, whose states were carried by Hillary Clinton in 2016 — really need to be taken down if Democrats are to regain control.

Of the two blue-state senators, Collins would superficially look like the toughest to beat. She’s been in the Senate since 1996, where she has split with her party just often enough to cultivate her image as a brave defender of Maine’s (and New England’s) all-but-lost moderate Republicanism. (She’s one of the last pro-choice Republicans in Congress). Her three reelection bids have shown her steadily improving her performance; she won 62 percent of the vote in 2008 and 68 percent in 2014. But the latest senatorial job-approval numbers from Morning Consult show Collins losing popularity steadily:

Collins’ net approval — the share of voters who approve of her job performance minus the share who disapprove — has fallen by 44 percentage points since the first quarter of 2017, when Trump took office. Forty-five percent of Mainers approve of Collins and 48 percent disapprove in the latest rankings, down 16 net points since quarter one of this year, as her campaign gears up in earnest to face a Democratic challenge from state House Speaker Sara Gideon.


I think we are learning some lessons. Trump is wicked unpopular outside of the Republican party - which is shrinking. If you're in a bright red area, then it's probably a good idea to stick with the racist windbag. And if you're not....

Knock wood, gd willing, these a******* will be out of power in two more years.



A woman who cant be bought and who can’t be cowed by the howling mob.
I celebrate her. You denigrate her.
You be you.


Are you sure Susan Collins can’t be bought?

https://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/439145-texas-fossil-fuel-industry-bests-maine-residents-for-donations-to-susan

Because if I were from Maine, this would “concern” me.

Yup, only thirteen Mainers gave her $200 or more in the 1st quarter. And in the second quarter, Collins received more than four times the money from the DC metro area ($427k) than from Maine itself ($98k). Just 5% of her itemized money came from Maine.


Wait till you see how much of Gideon's money comes from outside the state. More power to her.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2019 11:22     Subject: Susan Collins is in trouble

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Susan Collins’s Approval Rating Dives As Reelection Contest Approaches

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/susan-collins-approval-rating-dives-as-2020-approaches.html

For all the talk about the 2020 presidential contest, Democrats also know how important it is for them to take back control of the U.S. Senate — either to block a vengeful second-term President Trump from consummating his conquest of the federal judiciary, or to give a Democratic successor a fighting chance to get something done. But flipping the Senate next year will be really difficult, with Republicans currently holding 54 seats, and with one Democrat up next year, Doug Jones of Alabama, widely perceived as nearly a lost cause (unless Republicans again send up Roy Moore to take him on, which is unlikely). Most of the GOP senators up for reelection in 2020 are from solidly red states, which means that those who are not — particularly Susan Collins of Maine and Cory Gardner of Colorado, whose states were carried by Hillary Clinton in 2016 — really need to be taken down if Democrats are to regain control.

Of the two blue-state senators, Collins would superficially look like the toughest to beat. She’s been in the Senate since 1996, where she has split with her party just often enough to cultivate her image as a brave defender of Maine’s (and New England’s) all-but-lost moderate Republicanism. (She’s one of the last pro-choice Republicans in Congress). Her three reelection bids have shown her steadily improving her performance; she won 62 percent of the vote in 2008 and 68 percent in 2014. But the latest senatorial job-approval numbers from Morning Consult show Collins losing popularity steadily:

Collins’ net approval — the share of voters who approve of her job performance minus the share who disapprove — has fallen by 44 percentage points since the first quarter of 2017, when Trump took office. Forty-five percent of Mainers approve of Collins and 48 percent disapprove in the latest rankings, down 16 net points since quarter one of this year, as her campaign gears up in earnest to face a Democratic challenge from state House Speaker Sara Gideon.


I think we are learning some lessons. Trump is wicked unpopular outside of the Republican party - which is shrinking. If you're in a bright red area, then it's probably a good idea to stick with the racist windbag. And if you're not....

Knock wood, gd willing, these a******* will be out of power in two more years.



A woman who cant be bought and who can’t be cowed by the howling mob.
I celebrate her. You denigrate her.
You be you.


Are you sure Susan Collins can’t be bought?

https://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/439145-texas-fossil-fuel-industry-bests-maine-residents-for-donations-to-susan

Because if I were from Maine, this would “concern” me.

Yup, only thirteen Mainers gave her $200 or more in the 1st quarter. And in the second quarter, Collins received more than four times the money from the DC metro area ($427k) than from Maine itself ($98k). Just 5% of her itemized money came from Maine.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2019 11:20     Subject: Susan Collins is in trouble

Anonymous wrote:Dem here - I am actually sad about this. It's not a good thing to have no moderate Rs.


She is a GOP core in moderate facade.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2019 11:16     Subject: Re:Susan Collins is in trouble

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You don't understand her problem? The Dems played dirty pool. They wanted to convict Kavanaugh for being an assaulter without evidence. That put her in the position of defending justice.
They were trying to eliminate due process. Sure, this was in a hearing and not in a court. But, they were trying him publicly with no proof--and no evidence. To most American people, IMO, Blasey Ford appeared to be a flake.


+ a million.

And, flake or not, there was zero evidence. Further, whatever evidence existed, it contradicted her story, like those supposed witnesses who couldn't remember a single thing she was talking about.

Dems tried to resurrect the Inquisition and it backfired. I'm pretty confident this is one of the things that will help the GOP retain the Senate in 2020, whatever happens in the WH.


Did you...read the story?

You might hold the Senate. It certainly won't be BECAUSE Susan Collins reneged on her promises to her constituents that she'd protect their abortion rights.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2019 11:15     Subject: Re:Susan Collins is in trouble

Anonymous wrote:You don't understand her problem? The Dems played dirty pool. They wanted to convict Kavanaugh for being an assaulter without evidence. That put her in the position of defending justice.
They were trying to eliminate due process. Sure, this was in a hearing and not in a court. But, they were trying him publicly with no proof--and no evidence. To most American people, IMO, Blasey Ford appeared to be a flake.


+ a million.

And, flake or not, there was zero evidence. Further, whatever evidence existed, it contradicted her story, like those supposed witnesses who couldn't remember a single thing she was talking about.

Dems tried to resurrect the Inquisition and it backfired. I'm pretty confident this is one of the things that will help the GOP retain the Senate in 2020, whatever happens in the WH.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2019 11:11     Subject: Susan Collins is in trouble

Good
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2019 11:10     Subject: Re:Susan Collins is in trouble

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She stood on principle when she voted for Kavanaugh.

Read Justice on Trial.


+1.

I watched her amazing speech.

That's a Senator with a backbone.


I watched it, too - and I am so freaking glad that she's in trouble for that. She vowed to protect abortion rights and then she flipped right over.


+1 from someone else who watched it. That speech was not about how she became a yes, it underscored why she was never a no.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2019 11:07     Subject: Susan Collins is in trouble

Anonymous wrote:Susan Collins = Connie Morella

That’s exactly what’s going to happen in Maine.
- someone whose parents were friends of Morella’s and still voted against her once Gingrich took over
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2019 10:38     Subject: Re:Susan Collins is in trouble

Anonymous wrote:You don't understand her problem? The Dems played dirty pool. They wanted to convict Kavanaugh for being an assaulter without evidence. That put her in the position of defending justice.
They were trying to eliminate due process. Sure, this was in a hearing and not in a court. But, they were trying him publicly with no proof--and no evidence. To most American people, IMO, Blasey Ford appeared to be a flake.


I would argue that your reading of the situation is not nearly as universal as you think.

What a lot of people saw was a woman with a credible story who was completely disregarded while her red-faced, beer-loving alleged assaulter was treated with kid gloves, while he shouted his way through a job interview for one of the best jobs in the world. There was virtually no examination of his alleged assault - and we all saw that, and there will be consequences. These are the consequences.

I would say Susan Collins made the decision, in this hearing, that it was more important to cater to stalwart Republicans - especially Republican men - than it was to think about independents, or (gasp) women. A woman who many of us related to, saw ourselves in, came forward with what sounded to us like credible accusations - and instead of taking them seriously, Collins voted for the guy.

That, plus her completely disingenuous feint about protecting Roe, made it clear that women can't trust her.

I know you disagree. I'm sure you'll argue for why your view of it is right. Maine voters are the ones who will get to decide if they think she did them right.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2019 10:32     Subject: Re:Susan Collins is in trouble

You don't understand her problem? The Dems played dirty pool. They wanted to convict Kavanaugh for being an assaulter without evidence. That put her in the position of defending justice.
They were trying to eliminate due process. Sure, this was in a hearing and not in a court. But, they were trying him publicly with no proof--and no evidence. To most American people, IMO, Blasey Ford appeared to be a flake.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2019 10:15     Subject: Re:Susan Collins is in trouble

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She stood on principle when she voted for Kavanaugh.

Read Justice on Trial.


+1.

I watched her amazing speech.

That's a Senator with a backbone.


I watched it, too - and I am so freaking glad that she's in trouble for that. She vowed to protect abortion rights and then she flipped right over.


But she was briefly concerned before she did so. What more to you expect? /s