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Anonymous wrote:My point is that McLean is a strong club that sent a u14, u16, u17 and u18/19 teams to ECNL nationals. VDA competed well as did most of the other MA teams in attendance. If you remove PDA from the NE, the NE conference had a weak showing. The NE might be overrated.

I understand your point.

However, i believe the NE division is very strong. Truth be told, I'm happy they are strong. Good competetion close by makes for good regional showcases, like ECNL NJ, which brought out east coast scouts.

Sorry but the Mid Atlantic did not actually fair very well in comparison to other conferences. Yes, VDA 06 and McLean 18/19. Both lost in the finals pretty bad, 0:5 and 1:4 respectively.

The Mid Atlantic only has two other teams in all the age groups reach the Quarter Finals, Richmond and Carolina Elite 04's. Both teams lost in the Quarters.

The most represented Conference's in the Quarter Finals U14-U17 was the Mid West and South West, and North East with 6 teams respectively.

Number of Quarter-finalist represented by Conference:
North East 6
Mid West 6
South West 6
Ohio- 4
South East - 3
North West 2
Mid Atlantic 2
Texas - 1

Number of Semi-Finalist represented by Conference:
North East 5
South West 4
Mid West 2
Ohio 2
South East 2

Let's stop acting like the Mid Atlantic is some crucible of the ECNL.

I don’t think anyone has ever argued it is a crucible. The argument is that it’s a solid division. Spirit parents and FCV parents like to post that it is a weak division but it really isn’t. It’s competitive. Congrats to all of those players who qualified to play meaningful games in CA in DA and ECNL.

It's more like one or two Spirit/MU parent posters who fancy themselves recruiters. They need the "DA is greater than the ECNL" story line to work in order to get players from the surrounding ECNL clubs.

How do you expect to build nationally competitive teams when people come on here and play at their local ECNL club because "it is closer to my house"?

Because parents understand that colleges recruit players and not teams.

And guess what genius...good teams make better players. Train with a group of elite players than being a big fish in small pond and you will reach higher levels. Not rocket science. But you stay at Loudoun - see how that works out.

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Anonymous wrote:128 teams Qualify across 4 age groups.

32 teams reach the Quarter Finals of which 18 teams, HALF the Quarter Finals were represented by 3 conferences out a total of 8.

No the mid Atlantic is not competitive.

Name the club and age group you are associated with.

If not, STFU and sit down.

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Sorry but the Mid Atlantic did not actually fair very well in comparison to other conferences. Yes, VDA 06 and McLean 18/19. Both lost in the finals pretty bad, 0:5 and 1:4 respectively.

The Mid Atlantic only has two other teams in all the age groups reach the Quarter Finals, Richmond and Carolina Elite 04's. Both teams lost in the Quarters.

The most represented Conference's in the Quarter Finals U14-U17 was the Mid West and South West, and North East with 6 teams respectively.

Number of Quarter-finalist represented by Conference:
North East 6
Mid West 6
South West 6
Ohio- 4
South East - 3
North West 2
Mid Atlantic 2
Texas - 1

Number of Semi-Finalist represented by Conference:
North East 5
South West 4
Mid West 2
Ohio 2
South East 2

Let's stop acting like the Mid Atlantic is some crucible of the ECNL.

I don't have time to go through a verify all of your stats but since in your second sentence you can't even report the score of a game correctly (McLean lost 3-1), I have doubts about the accuracy of your numbers.

Right, McLean BEAT Ohio Premier 4-1. Dislexia.

Regardless. The rest of the numbers are sound. The Mid Atlantic U14-U17 was represented by only 2 teams at the Quarter Final level.

This is not to knock the U19 McLean team or VDA's achievements to reach the finals but when you look at the representation of the other Conferences it is very clear that across the board the Mid Atlantic is a weak Conference.

Did you take into account that some divisions allow more teams to qualify than others? For example, 5 NE teams qualify per age group vs 4 MA teams. Doesnt sound like a lot but that 4 more teams if you are taking overall division performance into account.

You also need to take into account the strength of the clubs in difference areas. PDA and Stars in the NE are getting their fair share. Always have and always will. World Class will be a powerhouse next year with the absorption of NYCFC. In other divisions, Hawks, Eclipse, Slammers, Blues, Vadar, etc will get their fair share in every age group.

Point being, your numbers may be right but your analysis is wrong.

There are about 10 top tier national clubs in the US. The rest of us are trying to dethrone them in any particular age group.

Anonymous wrote:128 teams Qualify across 4 age groups.

32 teams reach the Quarter Finals of which 18 teams, HALF the Quarter Finals were represented by 3 conferences out a total of 8.

No the mid Atlantic is not competitive.

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Sorry but the Mid Atlantic did not actually fair very well in comparison to other conferences. Yes, VDA 06 and McLean 18/19. Both lost in the finals pretty bad, 0:5 and 1:4 respectively.

The Mid Atlantic only has two other teams in all the age groups reach the Quarter Finals, Richmond and Carolina Elite 04's. Both teams lost in the Quarters.

The most represented Conference's in the Quarter Finals U14-U17 was the Mid West and South West, and North East with 6 teams respectively.

Number of Quarter-finalist represented by Conference:
North East 6
Mid West 6
South West 6
Ohio- 4
South East - 3
North West 2
Mid Atlantic 2
Texas - 1

Number of Semi-Finalist represented by Conference:
North East 5
South West 4
Mid West 2
Ohio 2
South East 2

Let's stop acting like the Mid Atlantic is some crucible of the ECNL.

I don't have time to go through a verify all of your stats but since in your second sentence you can't even report the score of a game correctly (McLean lost 3-1), I have doubts about the accuracy of your numbers.

Right, McLean BEAT Ohio Premier 4-1. Dislexia.

Regardless. The rest of the numbers are sound. The Mid Atlantic U14-U17 was represented by only 2 teams at the Quarter Final level.

This is not to knock the U19 McLean team or VDA's achievements to reach the finals but when you look at the representation of the other Conferences it is very clear that across the board the Mid Atlantic is a weak Conference.

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Anonymous wrote:My point is that McLean is a strong club that sent a u14, u16, u17 and u18/19 teams to ECNL nationals. VDA competed well as did most of the other MA teams in attendance. If you remove PDA from the NE, the NE conference had a weak showing. The NE might be overrated.

I understand your point.

However, i believe the NE division is very strong. Truth be told, I'm happy they are strong. Good competetion close by makes for good regional showcases, like ECNL NJ, which brought out east coast scouts.

Sorry but the Mid Atlantic did not actually fair very well in comparison to other conferences. Yes, VDA 06 and McLean 18/19. Both lost in the finals pretty bad, 0:5 and 1:4 respectively.

The Mid Atlantic only has two other teams in all the age groups reach the Quarter Finals, Richmond and Carolina Elite 04's. Both teams lost in the Quarters.

The most represented Conference's in the Quarter Finals U14-U17 was the Mid West and South West, and North East with 6 teams respectively.

Number of Quarter-finalist represented by Conference:
North East 6
Mid West 6
South West 6
Ohio- 4
South East - 3
North West 2
Mid Atlantic 2
Texas - 1

Number of Semi-Finalist represented by Conference:
North East 5
South West 4
Mid West 2
Ohio 2
South East 2

Let's stop acting like the Mid Atlantic is some crucible of the ECNL.

I don’t think anyone has ever argued it is a crucible. The argument is that it’s a solid division. Spirit parents and FCV parents like to post that it is a weak division but it really isn’t. It’s competitive. Congrats to all of those players who qualified to play meaningful games in CA in DA and ECNL.

It's more like one or two Spirit/MU parent posters who fancy themselves recruiters. They need the "DA is greater than the ECNL" story line to work in order to get players from the surrounding ECNL clubs.

How do you expect to build nationally competitive teams when people come on here and play at their local ECNL club because "it is closer to my house"?

Because parents understand that colleges recruit players and not teams.

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Anonymous wrote:My point is that McLean is a strong club that sent a u14, u16, u17 and u18/19 teams to ECNL nationals. VDA competed well as did most of the other MA teams in attendance. If you remove PDA from the NE, the NE conference had a weak showing. The NE might be overrated.

I understand your point.

However, i believe the NE division is very strong. Truth be told, I'm happy they are strong. Good competetion close by makes for good regional showcases, like ECNL NJ, which brought out east coast scouts.

Sorry but the Mid Atlantic did not actually fair very well in comparison to other conferences. Yes, VDA 06 and McLean 18/19. Both lost in the finals pretty bad, 0:5 and 1:4 respectively.

The Mid Atlantic only has two other teams in all the age groups reach the Quarter Finals, Richmond and Carolina Elite 04's. Both teams lost in the Quarters.

The most represented Conference's in the Quarter Finals U14-U17 was the Mid West and South West, and North East with 6 teams respectively.

Number of Quarter-finalist represented by Conference:
North East 6
Mid West 6
South West 6
Ohio- 4
South East - 3
North West 2
Mid Atlantic 2
Texas - 1

Number of Semi-Finalist represented by Conference:
North East 5
South West 4
Mid West 2
Ohio 2
South East 2

Let's stop acting like the Mid Atlantic is some crucible of the ECNL.

I don’t think anyone has ever argued it is a crucible. The argument is that it’s a solid division. Spirit parents and FCV parents like to post that it is a weak division but it really isn’t. It’s competitive. Congrats to all of those players who qualified to play meaningful games in CA in DA and ECNL.

It's more like one or two Spirit/MU parent posters who fancy themselves recruiters. They need the "DA is greater than the ECNL" story line to work in order to get players from the surrounding ECNL clubs.

How do you expect to build nationally competitive teams when people come on here and play at their local ECNL club because "it is closer to my house"?

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Anonymous wrote:My point is that McLean is a strong club that sent a u14, u16, u17 and u18/19 teams to ECNL nationals. VDA competed well as did most of the other MA teams in attendance. If you remove PDA from the NE, the NE conference had a weak showing. The NE might be overrated.

I understand your point.

However, i believe the NE division is very strong. Truth be told, I'm happy they are strong. Good competetion close by makes for good regional showcases, like ECNL NJ, which brought out east coast scouts.

Sorry but the Mid Atlantic did not actually fair very well in comparison to other conferences. Yes, VDA 06 and McLean 18/19. Both lost in the finals pretty bad, 0:5 and 1:4 respectively.

The Mid Atlantic only has two other teams in all the age groups reach the Quarter Finals, Richmond and Carolina Elite 04's. Both teams lost in the Quarters.

The most represented Conference's in the Quarter Finals U14-U17 was the Mid West and South West, and North East with 6 teams respectively.

Number of Quarter-finalist represented by Conference:
North East 6
Mid West 6
South West 6
Ohio- 4
South East - 3
North West 2
Mid Atlantic 2
Texas - 1

Number of Semi-Finalist represented by Conference:
North East 5
South West 4
Mid West 2
Ohio 2
South East 2

Let's stop acting like the Mid Atlantic is some crucible of the ECNL.

I don’t think anyone has ever argued it is a crucible. The argument is that it’s a solid division. Spirit parents and FCV parents like to post that it is a weak division but it really isn’t. It’s competitive. Congrats to all of those players who qualified to play meaningful games in CA in DA and ECNL.

It's more like one or two Spirit/MU parent posters who fancy themselves recruiters. They need the "DA is greater than the ECNL" story line to work in order to get players from the surrounding ECNL clubs.

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Sorry but the Mid Atlantic did not actually fair very well in comparison to other conferences. Yes, VDA 06 and McLean 18/19. Both lost in the finals pretty bad, 0:5 and 1:4 respectively.

The Mid Atlantic only has two other teams in all the age groups reach the Quarter Finals, Richmond and Carolina Elite 04's. Both teams lost in the Quarters.

The most represented Conference's in the Quarter Finals U14-U17 was the Mid West and South West, and North East with 6 teams respectively.

Number of Quarter-finalist represented by Conference:
North East 6
Mid West 6
South West 6
Ohio- 4
South East - 3
North West 2
Mid Atlantic 2
Texas - 1

Number of Semi-Finalist represented by Conference:
North East 5
South West 4
Mid West 2
Ohio 2
South East 2

Let's stop acting like the Mid Atlantic is some crucible of the ECNL.

I don't have time to go through a verify all of your stats but since in your second sentence you can't even report the score of a game correctly (McLean lost 3-1), I have doubts about the accuracy of your numbers.

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Anonymous wrote:My point is that McLean is a strong club that sent a u14, u16, u17 and u18/19 teams to ECNL nationals. VDA competed well as did most of the other MA teams in attendance. If you remove PDA from the NE, the NE conference had a weak showing. The NE might be overrated.

I understand your point.

However, i believe the NE division is very strong. Truth be told, I'm happy they are strong. Good competetion close by makes for good regional showcases, like ECNL NJ, which brought out east coast scouts.

Sorry but the Mid Atlantic did not actually fair very well in comparison to other conferences. Yes, VDA 06 and McLean 18/19. Both lost in the finals pretty bad, 0:5 and 1:4 respectively.

The Mid Atlantic only has two other teams in all the age groups reach the Quarter Finals, Richmond and Carolina Elite 04's. Both teams lost in the Quarters.

The most represented Conference's in the Quarter Finals U14-U17 was the Mid West and South West, and North East with 6 teams respectively.

Number of Quarter-finalist represented by Conference:
North East 6
Mid West 6
South West 6
Ohio- 4
South East - 3
North West 2
Mid Atlantic 2
Texas - 1

Number of Semi-Finalist represented by Conference:
North East 5
South West 4
Mid West 2
Ohio 2
South East 2

Let's stop acting like the Mid Atlantic is some crucible of the ECNL.

I don’t think anyone has ever argued it is a crucible. The argument is that it’s a solid division. Spirit parents and FCV parents like to post that it is a weak division but it really isn’t. It’s competitive. Congrats to all of those players who qualified to play meaningful games in CA in DA and ECNL.

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Sorry but the Mid Atlantic did not actually fair very well in comparison to other conferences. Yes, VDA 06 and McLean 18/19. Both lost in the finals pretty bad, 0:5 and 1:4 respectively.

The Mid Atlantic only has two other teams in all the age groups reach the Quarter Finals, Richmond and Carolina Elite 04's. Both teams lost in the Quarters.

The most represented Conference's in the Quarter Finals U14-U17 was the Mid West and South West, and North East with 6 teams respectively.

Number of Quarter-finalist represented by Conference:
North East 6
Mid West 6
South West 6
Ohio- 4
South East - 3
North West 2
Mid Atlantic 2
Texas - 1

Number of Semi-Finalist represented by Conference:
North East 5
South West 4
Mid West 2
Ohio 2
South East 2

Let's stop acting like the Mid Atlantic is some crucible of the ECNL.

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Anonymous wrote:My point is that McLean is a strong club that sent a u14, u16, u17 and u18/19 teams to ECNL nationals. VDA competed well as did most of the other MA teams in attendance. If you remove PDA from the NE, the NE conference had a weak showing. The NE might be overrated.

I understand your point.

However, i believe the NE division is very strong. Truth be told, I'm happy they are strong. Good competetion close by makes for good regional showcases, like ECNL NJ, which brought out east coast scouts.

Sorry but the Mid Atlantic did not actually fair very well in comparison to other conferences. Yes, VDA 06 and McLean 18/19. Both lost in the finals pretty bad, 0:5 and 1:4 respectively.

The Mid Atlantic only has two other teams in all the age groups reach the Quarter Finals, Richmond and Carolina Elite 04's. Both teams lost in the Quarters.

The most represented Conference's in the Quarter Finals U14-U17 was the Mid West and South West, and North East with 6 teams respectively.

Number of Quarter-finalist represented by Conference:
North East 6
Mid West 6
South West 6
Ohio- 4
South East - 3
North West 2
Mid Atlantic 2
Texas - 1

Number of Semi-Finalist represented by Conference:
North East 5
South West 4
Mid West 2
Ohio 2
South East 2

Let's stop acting like the Mid Atlantic is some crucible of the ECNL.

I don’t think anyone has ever argued it is a crucible. The argument is that it’s a solid division. Spirit parents and FCV parents like to post that it is a weak division but it really isn’t. It’s competitive. Congrats to all of those players who qualified to play meaningful games in CA in DA and ECNL.

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Anonymous wrote:My point is that McLean is a strong club that sent a u14, u16, u17 and u18/19 teams to ECNL nationals. VDA competed well as did most of the other MA teams in attendance. If you remove PDA from the NE, the NE conference had a weak showing. The NE might be overrated.

I understand your point.

However, i believe the NE division is very strong. Truth be told, I'm happy they are strong. Good competetion close by makes for good regional showcases, like ECNL NJ, which brought out east coast scouts.

Sorry but the Mid Atlantic did not actually fair very well in comparison to other conferences. Yes, VDA 06 and McLean 18/19. Both lost in the finals pretty bad, 0:5 and 1:4 respectively.

The Mid Atlantic only has two other teams in all the age groups reach the Quarter Finals, Richmond and Carolina Elite 04's. Both teams lost in the Quarters.

The most represented Conference's in the Quarter Finals U14-U17 was the Mid West and South West, and North East with 6 teams respectively.

Number of Quarter-finalist represented by Conference:
North East 6
Mid West 6
South West 6
Ohio- 4
South East - 3
North West 2
Mid Atlantic 2
Texas - 1

Number of Semi-Finalist represented by Conference:
North East 5
South West 4
Mid West 2
Ohio 2
South East 2

Let's stop acting like the Mid Atlantic is some crucible of the ECNL.

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Anonymous wrote:My point is that McLean is a strong club that sent a u14, u16, u17 and u18/19 teams to ECNL nationals. VDA competed well as did most of the other MA teams in attendance. If you remove PDA from the NE, the NE conference had a weak showing. The NE might be overrated.

I understand your point.

However, i believe the NE division is very strong. Truth be told, I'm happy they are strong. Good competetion close by makes for good regional showcases, like ECNL NJ, which brought out east coast scouts.