I think it’s a coin toss. Just as there are many people not talking about Trump that will vote for him, there are many people who will come out in droves to do all they can from keeping him in office.

Swing voters are going to determine the fate.

And to that end:

I also predict that eventually swing voters will get so frustrated with Rep/Dem options, stakeholders will begin to heavily invest in reframing the independent party and run a candidate that will in years to come be elected as an independent president.

-l

Anonymous wrote:From Jonathan Bernstein at Bloomberg:

Your occasional reminder of how unpopular this president is. Net approval via 538, day 859:

Carter -20.7
Trump -12.8
Reagan +2.3
Obama 7.0
Nixon 12.0

I know I'm not taking the right message here - but my gd has Jimmy Carter become a saint since his time in office. What I would give for someone with his integrity to be president now.

From Jonathan Bernstein at Bloomberg:

Your occasional reminder of how unpopular this president is. Net approval via 538, day 859:

Carter -20.7
Trump -12.8
Reagan +2.3
Obama 7.0
Nixon 12.0

The liar-in-chief will lose for the following reasons:
1) His approval has never ever crossed 43% in avg of polls(see fivethirtyeight.com)
2) His favorability is in the 30s.
3) He lost the popular vote by 3 million votes and barely won the slavery era EC by 70K votes in 3 states. Since 2016, the dems have won big in 2018, especially in PA,WI and MI.
4) The conman's taxes will be out one way or another and it will hurt him.
5) The Russian stooge isn't home free yet about Russia. There are many cases still continuing the Russia investigation(stone's collusion with wikileaks, manafort Kilimnik are two).
6) He has lost women voters big time and hasn't expanded his base EVEN when he has 3 million deficit to begin with.
7) Imagine where his approval will be WHEN(not IF) the economy declines even in the best of times it is bad.
8) Tariffs will slowly eat away at the economy and agriculture and it will cost votes in IA, making IA blue again.
9) Since 2016, there is a decline of 2-3% white voters and increase of similar percent among hispanics and Asians, who vote atleast 2/3 dems. WHere is he going to compensate for the loss of white votes?
10) Since 2016 the silent generation(over 75 and over 66% gop voters) have declined by 5%, replaced by Gen Z(66% dem voters). How will he compensate for the loss of his votes?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the young people all show up to vote, he will lose.

I'm young and I've seen your agenda. The priorities are really screwed up when you get in power and you've lost your minds.



Pushing trasgenderism and people who identify as whatever they want to to game the system. Absolutely ridiculous.

One restroom for all people until it leads to violence.

Reparations. Really?

Constant victimhood and playing one group off another to stay in power. Using ANTIFA and BLM to do it no less.

Dropping pallets of cash on our enemies and buying them off by showing weakness.

Political correctness run amuck. Obama gets the Nobel Peace prize and then turns around and drones everyone and attacks Libya.




I definitely don't want to go back to progressives in power. It's absolutely disgusting and they've shown us they can't be trusted.

The 2005-2008 conversations democrats pushed about needing to strengthen the FISA laws and courts to protect people turned out to be exactly what they abused under the Obama administration. Remember bugging the Associated Press? Bugging opposition candidates. It's absolutely disgusting.

That litany of things aren't the main things on the Dem agenda. If you think they are then you should reconsider your "news" sources.

LOL, typical liberal mindset. "See, those things you say are important to you, they are not. These - these things over hear are what's important to you. I know better what's important to you than you do for yourself."

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hillary, Bernie, Biden? All seem pretty white to me?

Bernie is a Jew

This may come as a shock to you, but Bernie is both white and Jewish. These are not mutually exclusive characteristics.

Nope.


White in a historical context has a specific meaning.

Read Haaretz and other Jewish publications. Jews are not white.

Dear racist American,

Please drop that race obsession. It's not healthy.

Anyone but Trump. It would be interesting if the other candidate was a rabid war with Iran type, which Trump fortunately isn’t. I’d cuss up a storm, but I’d still vote non-Trump.

Even Trump voters are tired of the never ending ****show that is the Trump presidency. They may agree with some of his xenophobic, nationalistic, racist policies, but they think he's embarrassing and corrupt. The ones who voted for him thinking he would improve their economic lot in life will realize after 4 years that it hasn't happened, and that the few policies Trump pushed through benefited his ultra-rich cronies the most.

Anonymous wrote:Because Trump lovers won't stop whining whining "That's why Trump is going to win again in 2020" - let's give our reasons here for why Trump is going to lose in 2020. (Knock wood a million times.)

- Americans are tired of this clown show. It's exhausting and scary, and the people who thought it would be funny to vote for Trump last time don't think it's so funny anymore

- Because he's an impotent fool with no good ideas

- Because Infrastructure Week is such a joke, and such a wasted opportunity

I know its not politically correct to say this, but Trump will not win in 2020 because he will be older, fatter and uglier than in 2016.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hillary, Bernie, Biden? All seem pretty white to me?

Bernie is a Jew

This may come as a shock to you, but Bernie is both white and Jewish. These are not mutually exclusive characteristics.

Nope.


White in a historical context has a specific meaning.

Read Haaretz and other Jewish publications. Jews are not white.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hillary, Bernie, Biden? All seem pretty white to me?

Bernie is a Jew

This may come as a shock to you, but Bernie is both white and Jewish. These are not mutually exclusive characteristics.

Anonymous wrote:Hillary, Bernie, Biden? All seem pretty white to me?

Bernie is a Jew

I think trump will lose in 2020 but someone like Tom cotton will win in 2024.

The next dem president will be a 1 term president.

McConnell will see to it because he will be majority leader for the whole term

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the young people all show up to vote, he will lose.

I'm young and I've seen your agenda. The priorities are really screwed up when you get in power and you've lost your minds.



Pushing trasgenderism and people who identify as whatever they want to to game the system. Absolutely ridiculous.

One restroom for all people until it leads to violence.

Reparations. Really?

Constant victimhood and playing one group off another to stay in power. Using ANTIFA and BLM to do it no less.

Dropping pallets of cash on our enemies and buying them off by showing weakness.

Political correctness run amuck. Obama gets the Nobel Peace prize and then turns around and drones everyone and attacks Libya.




I definitely don't want to go back to progressives in power. It's absolutely disgusting and they've shown us they can't be trusted.

The 2005-2008 conversations democrats pushed about needing to strengthen the FISA laws and courts to protect people turned out to be exactly what they abused under the Obama administration. Remember bugging the Associated Press? Bugging opposition candidates. It's absolutely disgusting.

That litany of things aren't the main things on the Dem agenda. If you think they are then you should reconsider your "news" sources.

There are sane voices in the Democratic party who could help ensure victory but with the nutty base of the party, someone like Hickelooper has no chance of winning the nomination:

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/27/726330329/former-colorado-governor-and-2020-candidate-urges-distance-from-socialism