Anonymous
05/15/2019 11:13
Subject: Blond hair, blue eyed boy claiming to be Native American for college admission
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:23 and me affirmative action game changer
Not at all. 23andme won’t get you on a tribe’s rolls. It won’t even help you out if it turns out the infant you want to adopt has a NA parent and you dig up a NA great-grandparent who never enrolled.
How much African is required for African American
One fourth of my ancestry is black. I look black. If you ask ten people my ethnicity, they would all say black because of the color of my skin. I've faced the bigotry of people assuming I wasn't "smart," and assuming I got a job due to affirmative action despite having much better grades than white students I graduated with (who also got jobs with the same firm). I've had people talk about how unfair it was that I got into a certain grad school that a white classmate didn't. Luckily one of my white friends who knew both my grades and the other classmate's grades was there to set the record straight. I don't think a percentage cut off can determine if you're black. People would look askance at me if I tried to claim to be something else. My cousin who has more African ancestry than I do doesn't look black and never faced the same discrimination I did. I think how you look influences whether you face discrimination. I've never needed affirmative action based on objective standards like grades and performance, but I wonder if the biases without it would have stopped me from getting in the door to prove myself.
Yep, my neighbors have kids who are 1/4 black—one looks black and has super curly hair, while the other looks Asian and has straight hair.
Actually, I know another family like this too—one kid looks white and the other looks at least 1/2 black. You never know with genetics—kinda cool to see what you’ll get!
Hi neighbor!
Anonymous
05/15/2019 11:12
Subject: Blond hair, blue eyed boy claiming to be Native American for college admission
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What a ridiculous concept that is ! White hispanic. Or faux cahontis : whatever I identify with to get ahead.
Most hispanics are "white." The vast majority of hispanics, if they check any race box, will check "white" per federal government categories set forth in the Common App. Hispanic is an ethnicity, a yes or no question. The race question is separate. There is NO race category for Mestizo. Native American does not apply as it requires a tribal number. White is all there is.
I’m not sure what you guys are getting at. I don’t think you can say most are white if so many will have a higher percentage of Native American blood than the rest of the continent.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 11:08
Subject: Blond hair, blue eyed boy claiming to be Native American for college admission
I agree with everyone that this kid may really be part NA. However, if I were the neighbor - I wouldn't be constantly mentioning how it gives him an advantage. I'm much more private than that.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 11:08
Subject: Blond hair, blue eyed boy claiming to be Native American for college admission
Anonymous wrote:What a ridiculous concept that is ! White hispanic. Or faux cahontis : whatever I identify with to get ahead.
Most hispanics are "white." The vast majority of hispanics, if they check any race box, will check "white" per federal government categories set forth in the Common App. Hispanic is an ethnicity, a yes or no question. The race question is separate. There is NO race category for Mestizo. Native American does not apply as it requires a tribal number. White is all there is.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 11:07
Subject: Blond hair, blue eyed boy claiming to be Native American for college admission
Anonymous wrote:I'm white and Asian and people (white, black, Asian and Hispanic) think I'm Hispanic.
Our daughter (Asian) has been mistaken for Hispanic as well.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 11:03
Subject: Re:Blond hair, blue eyed boy claiming to be Native American for college admission
This is a ridiculous post. My BIL is Cherokee. He has sandy brown hair, and bright blue eyes.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 10:58
Subject: Blond hair, blue eyed boy claiming to be Native American for college admission
You sound very jealous OP.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 10:14
Subject: Blond hair, blue eyed boy claiming to be Native American for college admission
What a ridiculous concept that is ! White hispanic. Or faux cahontis : whatever I identify with to get ahead.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 10:12
Subject: Blond hair, blue eyed boy claiming to be Native American for college admission
Some ignorant thoughts on this thread! The system is really flawed though. What you identify as? I identify as a door knob myself but by DNA testing I’m white hispanic.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 09:41
Subject: Re:Blond hair, blue eyed boy claiming to be Native American for college admission
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We are very white (and wealthy), and my DS claimed Hispanic ethnicity on his college applications. One grandparent from a Latin American country. That's all it takes folks. It worked out quite nicely for him.
Troll
Right. Where does this idea that colleges are just allowing in any His minority just because they're a minority? Like, what? If that were so, anybody could apply, check a box and get in. That doesn't seem to be the case
Not a troll at all. This is absolutely true. My mother is from Argentina. My dad is "American." My husband's parents have no Hispanic background. But College Board defines Hispanic as having 1/4 ethnicity. So we went by that definition. We took advantage of a flawed system. And it worked extremely well as he got into every school (top schools). And interestingly, we didn't have to prove it. However, we do have proof if asked. No regrets AT ALL...and he probably would have gotten in anyway due to his extremely high stats. But this was great insurance!
I sacrificed three chickens and bathed in their blood before we sent in the apps. DD probably would have gotten in anyway due to her extremely high stats, but it was great insurance.
Exactly! My DS is full-pay and has high stats but I'm sure it's the 1/4 Hispanic ancestry that we weren't asked to verify that did the trick.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 09:35
Subject: Re:Blond hair, blue eyed boy claiming to be Native American for college admission
Morally they should not claim Native American ancestry for the purpose of college admissions if the family for all practical purposes isn't Native American other than a distant ancestry. They likely never faced the discrimination or prejudice that affected their life outcomes.
But if they do have tribal papers officially declaring them Native Americans then they get to play the game quite legally.
My nephew's grandmother is 3/4s Native American and who grew up on a reservation and went to boarding schools for Native Americans. Her son looks like he's of possibly Italian heritage. The nephew is blond and blue. His grandmother finds it very amusing.
But if they do have tribal papers officially declaring them Native Americans then they get to play the game quite legally.
My nephew's grandmother is 3/4s Native American and who grew up on a reservation and went to boarding schools for Native Americans. Her son looks like he's of possibly Italian heritage. The nephew is blond and blue. His grandmother finds it very amusing.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 07:31
Subject: Re:Blond hair, blue eyed boy claiming to be Native American for college admission
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We are very white (and wealthy), and my DS claimed Hispanic ethnicity on his college applications. One grandparent from a Latin American country. That's all it takes folks. It worked out quite nicely for him.
Troll
Right. Where does this idea that colleges are just allowing in any His minority just because they're a minority? Like, what? If that were so, anybody could apply, check a box and get in. That doesn't seem to be the case
Not a troll at all. This is absolutely true. My mother is from Argentina. My dad is "American." My husband's parents have no Hispanic background. But College Board defines Hispanic as having 1/4 ethnicity. So we went by that definition. We took advantage of a flawed system. And it worked extremely well as he got into every school (top schools). And interestingly, we didn't have to prove it. However, we do have proof if asked. No regrets AT ALL...and he probably would have gotten in anyway due to his extremely high stats. But this was great insurance!
I sacrificed three chickens and bathed in their blood before we sent in the apps. DD probably would have gotten in anyway due to her extremely high stats, but it was great insurance.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 07:29
Subject: Re:Blond hair, blue eyed boy claiming to be Native American for college admission
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We are very white (and wealthy), and my DS claimed Hispanic ethnicity on his college applications. One grandparent from a Latin American country. That's all it takes folks. It worked out quite nicely for him.
Troll
Right. Where does this idea that colleges are just allowing in any His minority just because they're a minority? Like, what? If that were so, anybody could apply, check a box and get in. That doesn't seem to be the case
Not a troll at all. This is absolutely true. My mother is from Argentina. My dad is "American." My husband's parents have no Hispanic background. But College Board defines Hispanic as having 1/4 ethnicity. So we went by that definition. We took advantage of a flawed system. And it worked extremely well as he got into every school (top schools). And interestingly, we didn't have to prove it. However, we do have proof if asked. No regrets AT ALL...and he probably would have gotten in anyway due to his extremely high stats. But this was great insurance!
I’ve heard this exact story (including Argentina) in the Internet for years. At least a decade.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 07:29
Subject: Re:Blond hair, blue eyed boy claiming to be Native American for college admission
What business is it of yours?
Anonymous
05/15/2019 07:22
Subject: Re:Blond hair, blue eyed boy claiming to be Native American for college admission
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We are very white (and wealthy), and my DS claimed Hispanic ethnicity on his college applications. One grandparent from a Latin American country. That's all it takes folks. It worked out quite nicely for him.
Troll
Right. Where does this idea that colleges are just allowing in any His minority just because they're a minority? Like, what? If that were so, anybody could apply, check a box and get in. That doesn't seem to be the case
Not a troll at all. This is absolutely true. My mother is from Argentina. My dad is "American." My husband's parents have no Hispanic background. But College Board defines Hispanic as having 1/4 ethnicity. So we went by that definition. We took advantage of a flawed system. And it worked extremely well as he got into every school (top schools). And interestingly, we didn't have to prove it. However, we do have proof if asked. No regrets AT ALL...and he probably would have gotten in anyway due to his extremely high stats. But this was great insurance!