Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I laff at all the pearl clutchers here whining and crying about cannabis decriminalization in DC. Not only will MJ never be again criminalized but they're going to set up retail markets next year in the city! It's going to be easier than ever to purchase high quality cannabis in the District if you're 21+ and it's going to be amazing.

Nobody said you had to like it, you just have to deal with it.

Yes. And we are going to have to deal with it. There will be a social cost in terms of people affected by long term marijuana abuse and greater access to marijuana and decriminalizing the drug. Take a trip to Los Angeles or pretty much anywhere in California. Or Denver. Notice the hordes of stoned unemployed homeless people and camps everywhere. Then add the increasing numbers of older people self-medicating their neurosis with marijuana but making it worse. And the large number of youths whose brains will be irreparably damaged by early intensive pot usage. Look forward to that in your future. It's already starting to happen. And you will pay the price for it one way or another.

But middle class people who want to enjoy their pot on weekends don't care about other people. Their own pleasure is more important than other people's, or greater society's, well-being. But that's typical of the inherent selfishness of the liberal American middle classes.

There are already camps of stoned homeless people everywhere. Decriminalizing will save a ton of money in police and legal costs that society bears.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yes. And we are going to have to deal with it. There will be a social cost in terms of people affected by long term marijuana abuse and greater access to marijuana and decriminalizing the drug. Take a trip to Los Angeles or pretty much anywhere in California. Or Denver. Notice the hordes of stoned unemployed homeless people and camps everywhere. Then add the increasing numbers of older people self-medicating their neurosis with marijuana but making it worse. And the large number of youths whose brains will be irreparably damaged by early intensive pot usage. Look forward to that in your future. It's already starting to happen. And you will pay the price for it one way or another.

But middle class people who want to enjoy their pot on weekends don't care about other people. Their own pleasure is more important than other people's, or greater society's, well-being. But that's typical of the inherent selfishness of the liberal American middle classes.

This is so ridiculously preposterous it is amazing you are allowed to particulate in our political process. 1950 thinks you're coo coo.

You seem quite defensive. Do you have an addictive pot habit?

I would imagine most reasonable adults should recognize that while pot can be an enjoyable activity for many people, it can also have substantial problems for others.

But as the alcoholic rarely acknowledges the dangers of his abuse, so does the modern pot addict.

Anonymous wrote:The PP defending rampant anti social pot use (meaning not respecting the ordinances and blowing it all over children) will have his /her own children in a few years. Let's see how do as I say, not as I do/did works out when those kids are buying never before seen strengths of TLC in candy bars at this market, permanently altering their brains, flunking from school etc.

Why is this always so difficult for you prohibitionists? You tell them to treat it just like alcohol. Don't consume until your older, keep your grades up and be safe--no consuming and driving.

Anonymous wrote:

Yes. And we are going to have to deal with it. There will be a social cost in terms of people affected by long term marijuana abuse and greater access to marijuana and decriminalizing the drug. Take a trip to Los Angeles or pretty much anywhere in California. Or Denver. Notice the hordes of stoned unemployed homeless people and camps everywhere. Then add the increasing numbers of older people self-medicating their neurosis with marijuana but making it worse. And the large number of youths whose brains will be irreparably damaged by early intensive pot usage. Look forward to that in your future. It's already starting to happen. And you will pay the price for it one way or another.

But middle class people who want to enjoy their pot on weekends don't care about other people. Their own pleasure is more important than other people's, or greater society's, well-being. But that's typical of the inherent selfishness of the liberal American middle classes.

This is so ridiculously preposterous it is amazing you are allowed to particulate in our political process. 1950 thinks you're coo coo.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I laff at all the pearl clutchers here whining and crying about cannabis decriminalization in DC. Not only will MJ never be again criminalized but they're going to set up retail markets next year in the city! It's going to be easier than ever to purchase high quality cannabis in the District if you're 21+ and it's going to be amazing.

Nobody said you had to like it, you just have to deal with it.

Yes. And we are going to have to deal with it. There will be a social cost in terms of people affected by long term marijuana abuse and greater access to marijuana and decriminalizing the drug. Take a trip to Los Angeles or pretty much anywhere in California. Or Denver. Notice the hordes of stoned unemployed homeless people and camps everywhere. Then add the increasing numbers of older people self-medicating their neurosis with marijuana but making it worse. And the large number of youths whose brains will be irreparably damaged by early intensive pot usage. Look forward to that in your future. It's already starting to happen. And you will pay the price for it one way or another.

But middle class people who want to enjoy their pot on weekends don't care about other people. Their own pleasure is more important than other people's, or greater society's, well-being. But that's typical of the inherent selfishness of the liberal American middle classes.

I guess some people want to live in a Nanny state and others don’t.

There is an inherent contradiction between individual liberalism and social well-being. There can be clashes. Drugs are one of those areas and there is never an easy solution. Humanity does seem to have a proclivity towards addiction and vices. I suppose the question is how do we best manage it as a society without intruding too much on individual decisions while not letting those individual decisions become a burden on greater society. I respect your desire to do drugs as long as it doesn't affect me, but we are seeing large scale, even epidemic drug abuse that is bringing a social cost of its own and and while marijuana, as drugs go, is a lesser evil, it is still part of the bundle.

Drugs are not a social good, but drugs do seem to be unavoidable. I believe in the concept of moderation as the best reasonable and pragmatic approach but I do wonder if we are swinging from one extreme of drug regulations to the other extreme rather than seeking a balanced middle ground.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I laff at all the pearl clutchers here whining and crying about cannabis decriminalization in DC. Not only will MJ never be again criminalized but they're going to set up retail markets next year in the city! It's going to be easier than ever to purchase high quality cannabis in the District if you're 21+ and it's going to be amazing.

Nobody said you had to like it, you just have to deal with it.

Yes. And we are going to have to deal with it. There will be a social cost in terms of people affected by long term marijuana abuse and greater access to marijuana and decriminalizing the drug. Take a trip to Los Angeles or pretty much anywhere in California. Or Denver. Notice the hordes of stoned unemployed homeless people and camps everywhere. Then add the increasing numbers of older people self-medicating their neurosis with marijuana but making it worse. And the large number of youths whose brains will be irreparably damaged by early intensive pot usage. Look forward to that in your future. It's already starting to happen. And you will pay the price for it one way or another.

But middle class people who want to enjoy their pot on weekends don't care about other people. Their own pleasure is more important than other people's, or greater society's, well-being. But that's typical of the inherent selfishness of the liberal American middle classes.

I guess some people want to live in a Nanny state and others don’t.

The PP defending rampant anti social pot use (meaning not respecting the ordinances and blowing it all over children) will have his /her own children in a few years. Let's see how do as I say, not as I do/did works out when those kids are buying never before seen strengths of TLC in candy bars at this market, permanently altering their brains, flunking from school etc.

Anonymous wrote:I laff at all the pearl clutchers here whining and crying about cannabis decriminalization in DC. Not only will MJ never be again criminalized but they're going to set up retail markets next year in the city! It's going to be easier than ever to purchase high quality cannabis in the District if you're 21+ and it's going to be amazing.

Nobody said you had to like it, you just have to deal with it.

Yes. And we are going to have to deal with it. There will be a social cost in terms of people affected by long term marijuana abuse and greater access to marijuana and decriminalizing the drug. Take a trip to Los Angeles or pretty much anywhere in California. Or Denver. Notice the hordes of stoned unemployed homeless people and camps everywhere. Then add the increasing numbers of older people self-medicating their neurosis with marijuana but making it worse. And the large number of youths whose brains will be irreparably damaged by early intensive pot usage. Look forward to that in your future. It's already starting to happen. And you will pay the price for it one way or another.

But middle class people who want to enjoy their pot on weekends don't care about other people. Their own pleasure is more important than other people's, or greater society's, well-being. But that's typical of the inherent selfishness of the liberal American middle classes.

I laff at all the pearl clutchers here whining and crying about cannabis decriminalization in DC. Not only will MJ never be again criminalized but they're going to set up retail markets next year in the city! It's going to be easier than ever to purchase high quality cannabis in the District if you're 21+ and it's going to be amazing.

Nobody said you had to like it, you just have to deal with it.

Anonymous wrote:Do the police yet have a legally reliable and defensible standard of marijuana impairment when operating a motor vehicle. I’m afraid that there are a lot of people driving stoned, yet there doesn’t seem to be the social concern the way there is around drunk driving.

Great question. Especially with the police having very little support "to police" in our city - these standards need to be crystal clear
Wasnt there a scandal with how they were measuring alcohol a few years back - I thought their tools were incorrectly calibrated and a bunch of cases had to be tossed.

Do the police yet have a legally reliable and defensible standard of marijuana impairment when operating a motor vehicle. I’m afraid that there are a lot of people driving stoned, yet there doesn’t seem to be the social concern the way there is around drunk driving.

I just read this and thought it would be pertinent to this thread:

https://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/why-are-there-so-many-homeless-in-los-angeles/

It's a telling warning to be careful about making light of the potential consequences of further legalization of drugs.

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