Anonymous
12/16/2023 05:53
Subject: Should kids that heavily prepped for the CoGat be allowed in AAP?
Thats not preppings....thats being a parent!
Anonymous wrote:We prepped 3 of my kids since they were K.
We didn't send them to any prep tutor or institute to sit in front of the material and answer them mechanically. I saw that a lot in Chantilly library behind book stalls.
Instead, everyday since K, we taught them math sense, playing board gams like monopoly, cashflow, rummy tiles, etc. We read with them and ask questions. When we got home from work, we disconnected ourselves from phones, computers. I cooked while my husband played with them.
When I looked at the CogAt tests, I thought it was so similar to GRE format. And for kids to be 99% they have to have advanced foundation in math and read and comprehend extensively for verbal. They also have logic thinking for non-verbal. Are all kids naturally born with these? I believe there are some but most kids need to build these bit by bit each day.
How heavy is the prep? I will let my kids decide. Are they seeing it as a fun game? Or they felt miserable whenever I brought the term NNAT and CogAt to them? If they feel struggle and miserable with it, I will consider they are not ready for AAP.
Yes, I prepped my kids but I thought that they are deserved in AAP.
AAP is just for advanced learner not for "gifted". To be an advanced learner, kids have to learn advanced material, right? It is common sense.
If you feel unfair, spend time with your kids to advance their academic performance.
Anonymous
12/15/2023 22:13
Subject: Should kids that heavily prepped for the CoGat be allowed in AAP?
Anonymous wrote:Should students from expensive college prep academies be admitting in Harvard/MIT/Yale. /s
Seriously! I wonder what OP thinks about this.
Also, kids who prep to get into TJ.
Anonymous
12/15/2023 21:01
Subject: Should kids that heavily prepped for the CoGat be allowed in AAP?
Yes they should. The greatest predictor of long term success (not just financial success but overall success in life) is conscientiousness. If a child is going to be disciplined enough and be amenable to prep, that says a lot about that kid. People here place so much emphasis on being “gifted” but being hardworking, having drive, and working with integrity are way more important. If a kid cares enough about wanting to be in an AAP class to do prep work, they will likely work hard in the class, which benefits themselves and their peers.
Anonymous
12/15/2023 11:43
Subject: Should kids that heavily prepped for the CoGat be allowed in AAP?
The only workable solution is to prep everyone. Longer school days, more education for kids who don't get it at home.
You can't ban students from studying at home.
You can't ban students from studying at home.
Anonymous
12/15/2023 10:48
Subject: Should kids that heavily prepped for the CoGat be allowed in AAP?
We prepped 3 of my kids since they were K.
We didn't send them to any prep tutor or institute to sit in front of the material and answer them mechanically. I saw that a lot in Chantilly library behind book stalls.
Instead, everyday since K, we taught them math sense, playing board gams like monopoly, cashflow, rummy tiles, etc. We read with them and ask questions. When we got home from work, we disconnected ourselves from phones, computers. I cooked while my husband played with them.
When I looked at the CogAt tests, I thought it was so similar to GRE format. And for kids to be 99% they have to have advanced foundation in math and read and comprehend extensively for verbal. They also have logic thinking for non-verbal. Are all kids naturally born with these? I believe there are some but most kids need to build these bit by bit each day.
How heavy is the prep? I will let my kids decide. Are they seeing it as a fun game? Or they felt miserable whenever I brought the term NNAT and CogAt to them? If they feel struggle and miserable with it, I will consider they are not ready for AAP.
Yes, I prepped my kids but I thought that they are deserved in AAP.
AAP is just for advanced learner not for "gifted". To be an advanced learner, kids have to learn advanced material, right? It is common sense.
If you feel unfair, spend time with your kids to advance their academic performance.
We didn't send them to any prep tutor or institute to sit in front of the material and answer them mechanically. I saw that a lot in Chantilly library behind book stalls.
Instead, everyday since K, we taught them math sense, playing board gams like monopoly, cashflow, rummy tiles, etc. We read with them and ask questions. When we got home from work, we disconnected ourselves from phones, computers. I cooked while my husband played with them.
When I looked at the CogAt tests, I thought it was so similar to GRE format. And for kids to be 99% they have to have advanced foundation in math and read and comprehend extensively for verbal. They also have logic thinking for non-verbal. Are all kids naturally born with these? I believe there are some but most kids need to build these bit by bit each day.
How heavy is the prep? I will let my kids decide. Are they seeing it as a fun game? Or they felt miserable whenever I brought the term NNAT and CogAt to them? If they feel struggle and miserable with it, I will consider they are not ready for AAP.
Yes, I prepped my kids but I thought that they are deserved in AAP.
AAP is just for advanced learner not for "gifted". To be an advanced learner, kids have to learn advanced material, right? It is common sense.
If you feel unfair, spend time with your kids to advance their academic performance.
Anonymous
12/15/2023 03:45
Subject: Should kids that heavily prepped for the CoGat be allowed in AAP?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To my knowledge iReady scores are included as part of the testing sheet that the school submits.
Meant to say are not included.
The school includes fall iready scores in the packet now. That started 2 yrs ago
Anonymous
12/13/2023 17:38
Subject: Should kids that heavily prepped for the CoGat be allowed in AAP?
Should students from expensive college prep academies be admitting in Harvard/MIT/Yale. /s
Anonymous
12/13/2023 16:37
Subject: Should kids that heavily prepped for the CoGat be allowed in AAP?
Jealous people!
Anonymous
12/13/2023 16:27
Subject: Should kids that heavily prepped for the CoGat be allowed in AAP?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To my knowledge iReady scores are included as part of the testing sheet that the school submits.
Meant to say are not included.
I tried to include it but our school AART teacher told me they (aart) would be able to see it so I shouldn’t include it.
Anonymous
12/13/2023 16:18
Subject: Should kids that heavily prepped for the CoGat be allowed in AAP?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes.
You can prep all you want, if you’re not smart you’re not getting in. Prepping too much becomes useless and you’re just wasting your time, because the exam tests for critical thinking skills, and there’s only so much you can do to develop your skills to their max.
This^.
You can prep for critical thinking by practicing critical thinking
Anonymous
12/13/2023 15:23
Subject: Should kids that heavily prepped for the CoGat be allowed in AAP?
Anonymous wrote:Yes.
You can prep all you want, if you’re not smart you’re not getting in. Prepping too much becomes useless and you’re just wasting your time, because the exam tests for critical thinking skills, and there’s only so much you can do to develop your skills to their max.
This^.
Anonymous
12/13/2023 15:21
Subject: Should kids that heavily prepped for the CoGat be allowed in AAP?
Anonymous wrote:If you heavily prepped your kid so that they would get a strong CoGat score, does that mean they REALLY belong in AAP? Doesn't that defeat the original purpose of AAP?
I had no idea what CoGat is so obviously they don't didn't do any prep but it didn't put them to any disadvantage. Is it something that can be prepped for? I guess like IQ, it can only help a little.
Anonymous
12/13/2023 15:15
Subject: Should kids that heavily prepped for the CoGat be allowed in AAP?
Anonymous wrote:To my knowledge iReady scores are included as part of the testing sheet that the school submits.
Meant to say are not included.
Anonymous
12/13/2023 15:11
Subject: Should kids that heavily prepped for the CoGat be allowed in AAP?
To my knowledge iReady scores are included as part of the testing sheet that the school submits.
Anonymous
12/13/2023 14:51
Subject: Should kids that heavily prepped for the CoGat be allowed in AAP?
Anonymous wrote:You can only prep so much. A non-gifted kid isn't going to score 140 on a screener test, regardless of how much they were prepped.
Agreed. I probably wouldn't use the label "gifted," but kids who get very high CogAT scores, prepped or not, deserve to be in AAP. "Holistic" as used in FCPS is "subjective," which I believe is flawed by its own biases, including political, social, and other non-academic ones.