Anonymous
04/17/2019 21:53
Subject: Lori Loughlin's DAUGHTER is under criminal investigation in college admissions scandal
Yes! I am cackling with glee. Throw the book at them. What strivers! Shoot for the moon and if you fail, at least hire a good lawyer
Anonymous
04/17/2019 21:49
Subject: Lori Loughlin's DAUGHTER is under criminal investigation in college admissions scandal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Whoa, talk about a plan to give your kid an unfair edge backfiring big time.
Instead of setting this kid up for a lifetime of wealth and connections on the party yacht of fun, she could become a convicted criminal.
And for what?
What's weird is that if it was only about a life of fun why did she want her daughters to go to college? They could have followed the Kardashian/Hilton/Richie path which doesn't really even require high school (weren't some of the Jenner's "home schooled"). And if it was only about college for fun then why not just go to ASU?
Weird example.
Does anyone really want their kid to emulate that bunch? ???
Anonymous
04/17/2019 20:23
Subject: Lori Loughlin's DAUGHTER is under criminal investigation in college admissions scandal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seems they’re making an example out of Loughlins. Gentile bias, I fear.
LL made her bed when she wouldn’t deal. The facts and evidence to charge were always there. In order to get rid of the case and move things along, they were offered the opportunity to plead to the minimum. They rejected the deal. So if the government is going to have to try the case, of course the government is going to try their entire case.
And for anyone who thinks this is going to be a walk in the park, that is not how things go with federal charges. The idea that they can plead ignorance isn’t going to work.
I think the biggest miscalculation was their failure to realize that the feds would bring her daughter (and maybe both of them) into the web. After cooking up this scheme, they could have done better by their kids by accepting a deal and keeping their kids out of it.
I’m sure for the rich it doesn’t mean much to have a federal conviction on their record. But for the rest of us, it would be life changing.
She may be better off taking her chances. They are targeting her to make an example out of her but over 30 families were involved and we're not hearing about each and every one of them, so whats really going on and what's this really about? Is it really worth putting someone like her in jail for a non-violent crime? Give her a huge fine and probation and community service. Waste of money otherwise.
Anonymous
04/17/2019 20:17
Subject: Lori Loughlin's DAUGHTER is under criminal investigation in college admissions scandal
Anonymous wrote:Seems they’re making an example out of Loughlins. Gentile bias, I fear.
LL made her bed when she wouldn’t deal. The facts and evidence to charge were always there. In order to get rid of the case and move things along, they were offered the opportunity to plead to the minimum. They rejected the deal. So if the government is going to have to try the case, of course the government is going to try their entire case.
And for anyone who thinks this is going to be a walk in the park, that is not how things go with federal charges. The idea that they can plead ignorance isn’t going to work.
I think the biggest miscalculation was their failure to realize that the feds would bring her daughter (and maybe both of them) into the web. After cooking up this scheme, they could have done better by their kids by accepting a deal and keeping their kids out of it.
I’m sure for the rich it doesn’t mean much to have a federal conviction on their record. But for the rest of us, it would be life changing.
Anonymous
04/17/2019 19:52
Subject: Re:Lori Loughlin's DAUGHTER is under criminal investigation in college admissions scandal
Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why LL didn’t anticipate this when she refused a plea deal.
+1
Anonymous
04/17/2019 19:37
Subject: Lori Loughlin's DAUGHTER is under criminal investigation in college admissions scandal
Seems they’re making an example out of Loughlins. Gentile bias, I fear.
Anonymous
04/17/2019 19:20
Subject: Re:Lori Loughlin's DAUGHTER is under criminal investigation in college admissions scandal
Anonymous wrote:I really dislike LL but I fail to see the actual criminal case here for her or her daughter regardless of what the daughter knew or didn't know.
Tax Evasion - If the organization was a 5013c then writing off the amount of money that she gave them shouldn't be tax fraud on her part. The donor is not responsible for whether the organization was a fraud or not. She was not part of establishing the fraudulent organization. The guy running the scheme if guilty of tax evasion.
Fraud - I've never a seen a criminal case for fraud on a college application or a resume. Its a civil matter or cause for termination but not criminal. Criminal bribery cases are usually made against someone in an official government role not school admissions.
Is there case law on any of this?
The feds have a high conviction rate but only when they stick to the regular established laws and not when they go out on a limp for something very public if there isn't case precedents.
She’s on tape admitting that the money was to bribe the coach not for a charitable purpose. She can’t say she made a legitimate tax-deductible charity donation.
Anonymous
04/17/2019 19:07
Subject: Lori Loughlin's DAUGHTER is under criminal investigation in college admissions scandal
Anonymous wrote:LOL at the Jared Kushner posters. Please, liberal elites, don’t go there. I used to work for a top university. There are far more of you than there are of them.
Oh wait, it is the liberal UMCs who fail to recognize that. Don’t attack what you can’t defend.
BTw I am not a supporter but picking battles wisely is important to defeat Trump.
Anonymous
04/17/2019 19:02
Subject: Lori Loughlin's DAUGHTER is under criminal investigation in college admissions scandal
LOL at the Jared Kushner posters. Please, liberal elites, don’t go there. I used to work for a top university. There are far more of you than there are of them.
Oh wait, it is the liberal UMCs who fail to recognize that. Don’t attack what you can’t defend.
Oh wait, it is the liberal UMCs who fail to recognize that. Don’t attack what you can’t defend.
Anonymous
04/17/2019 18:45
Subject: Re:Lori Loughlin's DAUGHTER is under criminal investigation in college admissions scandal
So hot it's criminal
Anonymous
04/17/2019 18:41
Subject: Lori Loughlin's DAUGHTER is under criminal investigation in college admissions scandal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Whoa, talk about a plan to give your kid an unfair edge backfiring big time.
Instead of setting this kid up for a lifetime of wealth and connections on the party yacht of fun, she could become a convicted criminal.
And for what?
The ability to put a USC bumper sticker on the vehicles. Parents obsessed with TJ can relate, no?
My kid doesn't go to USC. I just put a USC bumper sticker on my car so I can tailgate with the "in" crowd at games. If OJ can be a "crew recruit" I can be a "USC Mom"
Anonymous
04/17/2019 18:35
Subject: Lori Loughlin's DAUGHTER is under criminal investigation in college admissions scandal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't know how I feel about it- possible that her parents threatened her or pressured her. I would be good if the parents served a little time and a lot of money-- the kids who knew should definitely be expelled.
Olivia jade have dropped out of usc
Olivia jade also shut down comments on her YouTube channel. The gig is up.
She's the one who said she just wanted to experience games and parties?
Yes. And that is exactly what she experienced - lots of games and parties. Too bad the party is over tho
Anonymous
04/17/2019 18:32
Subject: Re:Lori Loughlin's DAUGHTER is under criminal investigation in college admissions scandal
Anonymous wrote:I really dislike LL but I fail to see the actual criminal case here for her or her daughter regardless of what the daughter knew or didn't know.
Tax Evasion - If the organization was a 5013c then writing off the amount of money that she gave them shouldn't be tax fraud on her part. The donor is not responsible for whether the organization was a fraud or not. She was not part of establishing the fraudulent organization. The guy running the scheme if guilty of tax evasion.
Fraud - I've never a seen a criminal case for fraud on a college application or a resume. Its a civil matter or cause for termination but not criminal. Criminal bribery cases are usually made against someone in an official government role not school admissions.
Is there case law on any of this?
The feds have a high conviction rate but only when they stick to the regular established laws and not when they go out on a limp for something very public if there isn't case precedents.
I believe they are also charged with money laundering and mail fraud. Basically these are probably very technical, catch all charges similar to using tax evasion to get Al Capone. I also can see some defenses shaping up, but that discussion wont be popular here so I wont go there.
Anonymous
04/17/2019 18:19
Subject: Re:Lori Loughlin's DAUGHTER is under criminal investigation in college admissions scandal
I really dislike LL but I fail to see the actual criminal case here for her or her daughter regardless of what the daughter knew or didn't know.
Tax Evasion - If the organization was a 5013c then writing off the amount of money that she gave them shouldn't be tax fraud on her part. The donor is not responsible for whether the organization was a fraud or not. She was not part of establishing the fraudulent organization. The guy running the scheme if guilty of tax evasion.
Fraud - I've never a seen a criminal case for fraud on a college application or a resume. Its a civil matter or cause for termination but not criminal. Criminal bribery cases are usually made against someone in an official government role not school admissions.
Is there case law on any of this?
The feds have a high conviction rate but only when they stick to the regular established laws and not when they go out on a limp for something very public if there isn't case precedents.
Tax Evasion - If the organization was a 5013c then writing off the amount of money that she gave them shouldn't be tax fraud on her part. The donor is not responsible for whether the organization was a fraud or not. She was not part of establishing the fraudulent organization. The guy running the scheme if guilty of tax evasion.
Fraud - I've never a seen a criminal case for fraud on a college application or a resume. Its a civil matter or cause for termination but not criminal. Criminal bribery cases are usually made against someone in an official government role not school admissions.
Is there case law on any of this?
The feds have a high conviction rate but only when they stick to the regular established laws and not when they go out on a limp for something very public if there isn't case precedents.
Anonymous
04/17/2019 18:17
Subject: Lori Loughlin's DAUGHTER is under criminal investigation in college admissions scandal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't know how I feel about it- possible that her parents threatened her or pressured her. I would be good if the parents served a little time and a lot of money-- the kids who knew should definitely be expelled.
Olivia jade have dropped out of usc
Olivia jade also shut down comments on her YouTube channel. The gig is up.
She's the one who said she just wanted to experience games and parties?